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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 09:40 PM
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A witness to the attack by al Shabaab militants on a shopping centre in Nairobi has told Sky News the gunmen killed anyone who was not Muslim.

Saadia Ahmed, a radio presenter from Nairobi, said: "We heard three explosions outside the building then all of a sudden we heard gunshots and people ducked down.

"A lot of people were shot while they were trying to escape. I saw one of the gunmen with an AK-47 and later two of them were talking and it sounded like Somali or Arabic."

Ms Ahmed said the attackers released people who were able to prove they could speak Arabic.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 10:16 PM
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Are people only regarded as being a Muslim if they can speak Arabic?
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Are people only regarded as being a Muslim if they can speak Arabic?
No. May be in Nairobi, God knows.

Pictures on internet tell the story of horror. This terrorism needs to stop. 'How' is the question.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 12:18 AM
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Despicable.

The world is a totally and utterly fcuked up place.

Religion is an antiquated fcuked up ideology.

Whether you believe your religion brings you comfort or understanding, it's fvcked up non the less.

Christians, Jews, Muslim, Martian.... I'm sorry, you're all fvcked up.


I'm off for another beer.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by zip106
Despicable.

The world is a totally and utterly fcuked up place.

Religion is an antiquated fcuked up ideology.

Whether you believe your religion brings you comfort or understanding, it's fvcked up non the less.

Christians, Jews, Muslim, Martian.... I'm sorry, you're all fvcked up.


I'm off for another beer.
I'm all in with you on this one, Each and every one is as fcuked up as the rest.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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Can't get my head around **** like this ..

"Satpal Singh, who was in a cafe when the attackers struck, said he ran downstairs before he was shot near the exit."

Does that mean he was shot in the bum?

(not a laughing matter, I know, but you have to try)
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 09:02 AM
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What is it actually for anyway? whats the principle behind the attack?
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 09:09 AM
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They were threatening for weeks, something to do with Kenyan government help with sorting all shabab in Somalia
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 09:10 AM
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43 dead, 200 injured.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
43 dead, 200 injured.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 09:19 AM
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43 dead, 200 injured.
Bloody hell, didn't know it was that many, all in the name of religion as well.

******* more extremist nutjobs..
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 10:37 AM
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Unknown number of hostages (at least 36 though cannot be confirmed yet) are still being held in the Westgate centre.

According to the reports, “the gunmen are currently holed up in a supermarket”.

“Al-Shabab told the BBC it carried out the attack on the upmarket shopping centre in response to Kenyan military operations in Somalia. There are about 4,000 Kenyan troops in the south of Somalia, where they have been fighting the militants since 2011”.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-24193059

It’s going to be a difficult one. Kenyan Government is working something out atm, it indicates.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 10:43 AM
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How can you take hostages and then,no doubt martyr yourself.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 10:46 AM
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I doubt that the Kenyan Govt have the skills or resources to mount a successful hostage rescue mission.

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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 10:49 AM
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**** martyrs, I'm terribly concerned about the hostages. What a state to be in. Hope the 'martyrs' get caught alive then tortured, and hostages are freed alive.
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Originally Posted by David Lock
I doubt that the Kenyan Govt have the skills or resources to mount a successful hostage rescue mission.

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Hm. Even the advanced governments would struggle with this one, so I'm not sure what hope the Kenyan Govt. has got. We'll just have to wait and see.
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In situations like this there's only one team that can handle it...

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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
In situations like this there's only one team that can handle it...

I would rather not TBH, not our problem stay the **** out of it.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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its actually 59 reported dead now.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 11:58 AM
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Somalia is a failed state and this is one consequence. Plus also there seems to be a strain of Islam that revels in blood letting.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Somalia is a failed state and this is one consequence. Plus also there seems to be a strain of Islam that revels in blood letting.
And the bait has just been cast.....
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Meanwhile Islamist militants in Pakistan:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-24193734

and Iraq:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24190728

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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
They don't do themselves any favours do they.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor

Not good. Not good at all.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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I was due to fly there tonight and my hotel is around 3-400m from the Westgate, so I have just postponed my flight. Probably safer now than before ironically, but nothing will be moving. I have been there 3 times in the last 5 months and these wnakers have been threatening for a while. Israeli special forces are allegedly involved now so it's going to get messy

Horrendous situation- hope they get the others out without too much further tragedy.
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Some of the terrorists may be women it has been reported.
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Originally Posted by Mouser
Some of the terrorists may be women it has been reported.
Not surprising. One of the Indian Prime Ministers was bombed by a female suicide bomber. She belonged to the Tamil Tigers.
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Not surprising. One of the Indian Prime Ministers was bombed by a female suicide bomber. She belonged to the Tamil Tigers.
If the attack has been carried out by al-Shabab I find it surprising that women would want to be part of an organisation that oppresses women unless they are forced to do it.
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Shes probably been brainwashed to believe shes a bloke TBH.
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What's this lot got to do with the Tamil Tigers?
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