which hot hatch.
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Get an S2000 Honda http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...--2000/1560298
A little more wonga needed though
A little more wonga needed though

MX5 is a more realistic proposition, but I doubt my mrs would like having my 6yr old son sat on her lap when they come over
and I don't want to have to drive my VW T4 crew cab everywhere.
Toyota starlet gt turbo, its the model before the glanza '90-'95 but there are some seriously clean ones about. Im yet to see a gt or glanza in worse condition than your typical clio.
One mint glanza in white running 200+ with all handeling mods required just sold for under 3.5k
I will post some links up but dont know if you will beable to view them??
Allan
One mint glanza in white running 200+ with all handeling mods required just sold for under 3.5k
I will post some links up but dont know if you will beable to view them??
Allan
http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic...-2#entry867827
Another
http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic...a/#entry865636
And another
http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic...p/#entry818999
Another
http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic...a/#entry865636
And another
http://www.ukstarletowners.com/topic...p/#entry818999
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Go OS and get a 205 GTi 1.9 or 1.6
I had a 1.6 (2nd car) with a mod'd airbox and it really was a quick little car. I loved the thing in the late 80's..god I sound frikin old
Dimma for 1750 here
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...#photo-content
or a mint, sorry clean 1.9
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...#photo-content
or a 2.0 Mi16 engined (160bhp) £1495- listed as go cart handling! I would buy this, retrim the seat, and whoosh..catch me!
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...#photo-content
I had a 1.6 (2nd car) with a mod'd airbox and it really was a quick little car. I loved the thing in the late 80's..god I sound frikin old
Dimma for 1750 here
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...#photo-content
or a mint, sorry clean 1.9
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...#photo-content
or a 2.0 Mi16 engined (160bhp) £1495- listed as go cart handling! I would buy this, retrim the seat, and whoosh..catch me!
http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-m...#photo-content
Last edited by grey_boy; Aug 2, 2013 at 02:15 PM. Reason: add some text
That's exactly what i'm talking about, seems to me like i'll be bouncing off the limiter in 2nd then when I hit 3rd too low in the revs for the Vtec, I want something that's singing nicely between 50 and 70 without needing to change gears and if I do find myself in 3rd it needs to have the grunt from lower down in the revs to.
Of course, if you don't then you drop out of the power band. But I'm sure you know this.I think you need something with a turbo
If your looking for a cheap hatch.
I recommend a 306 gti6 or rallye awesome cars, Have owned many many fwd and these are probably top of the list, Very reliable, cheap to repair, bags of torque, and the handling is something else...
I recommend a 306 gti6 or rallye awesome cars, Have owned many many fwd and these are probably top of the list, Very reliable, cheap to repair, bags of torque, and the handling is something else...
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Good shout I forgot about these, can you give me some info on what to look out for as in what goes wrong with them.
Tapper due to timing belt fitted poorly and a bent valve (valves to pistons are sooooo close) will still drive ok but for how long...
Rear beam, Check the wheels sit straight and not sloping in at the top or the beam will need removed and rebuilt...
So not much else just check all electrics etc...
Dont spend money on power but just make sure suspension is spot on and you will have an awesome handling car that could shock a few subarus on a track...
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That's the point of the CTR, to change at the limiter, by doing so, you drop down perfectly on the VTEC, so you are constantly in the powerband. You're supposed to drive to the limit
Of course, if you don't then you drop out of the power band. But I'm sure you know this.
I think you need something with a turbo
Of course, if you don't then you drop out of the power band. But I'm sure you know this.I think you need something with a turbo

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I'm really struggling to be honest, looking at all the options and they all seem to be pretty close to the mpg I get from the WRX PPP but all are around 100bhp less.
I think the Clio is a bit out of the question because of the reliability issues, they just seem to have far too many things that go wrong or need constant attention/replacing, and I don't fancy shelling out all the time to keep a £1k car on the road.
I'm even starting to consider an MG ZR 120, because at least I know how to do everything on them and they weigh bugger all and get 40mpg, just not sure I could live with one as my only car.
I think the Clio is a bit out of the question because of the reliability issues, they just seem to have far too many things that go wrong or need constant attention/replacing, and I don't fancy shelling out all the time to keep a £1k car on the road.
I'm even starting to consider an MG ZR 120, because at least I know how to do everything on them and they weigh bugger all and get 40mpg, just not sure I could live with one as my only car.
From the weight that you save for a smaller car the 100bhp won't make much difference IMO.
Polo gti etc? Cupar r etc?
I still think you can get glanzas for your budget and they weigh bugger all, you just need to look in the right places for good ones.
Polo gti etc? Cupar r etc?
I still think you can get glanzas for your budget and they weigh bugger all, you just need to look in the right places for good ones.
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They are a bit old for a daily though, think i'd sooner spend the £3k on my type r and run that if i'm going to have a 90's car, but then i'd probably end up spending £5k and get into the spending spiral again, which is why I got a blob ppp and promised myself I wouldn't mod it.
I think i'm just going to give up on the idea for this year and keep the blob unless someone wants a straight swap or cash my way for something interesting that's had all the faults everything else on the market seems to have, rectified, as it wont be long before winter and it will probably save me having to put my isusu trooper back on the road for the small amount of snow that I sometimes get here.
One thing I have noticed though is just how good subarus are when it comes to things going wrong, reading some of the adverts the money that people spend in two years of ownership is very off putting, even the Rover 25 which we have done over 50k in 4 years has cost less than £1k to run including a couple of sets of tyres, difficult to argue against a car that can do that.
I think i'm just going to give up on the idea for this year and keep the blob unless someone wants a straight swap or cash my way for something interesting that's had all the faults everything else on the market seems to have, rectified, as it wont be long before winter and it will probably save me having to put my isusu trooper back on the road for the small amount of snow that I sometimes get here.
One thing I have noticed though is just how good subarus are when it comes to things going wrong, reading some of the adverts the money that people spend in two years of ownership is very off putting, even the Rover 25 which we have done over 50k in 4 years has cost less than £1k to run including a couple of sets of tyres, difficult to argue against a car that can do that.
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I think the Clio is a bit out of the question because of the reliability issues, they just seem to have far too many things that go wrong or need constant attention/replacing, and I don't fancy shelling out all the time to keep a £1k car on the road.
I'm even starting to consider an MG ZR 120, because at least I know how to do everything on them and they weigh bugger all and get 40mpg, just not sure I could live with one as my only car.
I'm even starting to consider an MG ZR 120, because at least I know how to do everything on them and they weigh bugger all and get 40mpg, just not sure I could live with one as my only car.

I think the Clio is a bit out of the question because of the reliability issues, they just seem to have far too many things that go wrong or need constant attention/replacing, and I don't fancy shelling out all the time to keep a £1k car on the road.
I'm even starting to consider an MG ZR 120, because at least I know how to do everything on them and they weigh bugger all and get 40mpg, just not sure I could live with one as my only car.
I'm even starting to consider an MG ZR 120, because at least I know how to do everything on them and they weigh bugger all and get 40mpg, just not sure I could live with one as my only car.

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So yeah scoff all you like but motoring doesn't get any cheaper which is what the mrs cars are all about cheap A to B city transport and she treats them like **** so no point buying her something decent, been there done that.
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I've heard the cupra's are good but I doubt that it will do significantly more mpg than my current Blob wagon ppp which is already running 270 near as damm it and has the added benefit of 4 wheel drive, it's just not worth swapping like for like and getting an unknown quantity, Ok my blob has covered 94k ish but it has good history and was dealer and enthusiast owned and I know the marque which helps a lot.
I'm not really interested in modding my daily unless it was a diesel and a simple remap would yield oodles of torque and better mpg, which is why I was looking for something small and N/A but with enough poke for over taking and decent handling to entertain me for the odd blast, which to be honest isn't very often these days.
Anyhow had a pm about a possible swap for something I always fancied owning so i'll wait and see if anything comes of it, I'm on a pretty tight time schedule when I get back in a few days so that won't help.
I'm not really interested in modding my daily unless it was a diesel and a simple remap would yield oodles of torque and better mpg, which is why I was looking for something small and N/A but with enough poke for over taking and decent handling to entertain me for the odd blast, which to be honest isn't very often these days.
Anyhow had a pm about a possible swap for something I always fancied owning so i'll wait and see if anything comes of it, I'm on a pretty tight time schedule when I get back in a few days so that won't help.
Have you considered a fiesta St? I am likely to sell my WRX PPP soon to put some cash into savings and noticed these can be had for about £3k. Another consideration would be a VVTLI Celica, I had one before the Scooby and they are quite practical with a huge boot, easily managed mid 30s mpg and can be picked up pretty cheap.
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I did think about the fiesta ST but I think they command a bit too much money just for the sake of an ST badge and at 150bhp are hardly a heavy weight in the class, I think they are well beaten by the clio that has more bhp probably a bit lighter and a couple of grand cheaper to boot.
Not thought of the celica but I was thinking of the corrola T sport which I have driven but didn't think much to tbh and the toyota's can be a tad thirsty when pressed.
Not thought of the celica but I was thinking of the corrola T sport which I have driven but didn't think much to tbh and the toyota's can be a tad thirsty when pressed.
Tbh the celica vvtli and the corrola t sport which is same engine are high revving cars like the type r. The lift intelligent kicks in around 7k revs.
On the celica t sport the wheels buckle very easy, eat clutches and flywheels £850 it cost me, if you drive them hard which you have to, apart from that they are ok,
Tbh ditch. As the fussy man you are
I think it's best you keep the wagon, sell the rover and get a 5 for cheap and spend a few pennies on handling and have fun.
On the celica t sport the wheels buckle very easy, eat clutches and flywheels £850 it cost me, if you drive them hard which you have to, apart from that they are ok,
Tbh ditch. As the fussy man you are
I think it's best you keep the wagon, sell the rover and get a 5 for cheap and spend a few pennies on handling and have fun.
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That's just about where i've arrived after a bit of thinking today, I went to do a bit of shopping and had a nosey at a few cars in the supermarket, Clio's are feckin small, golf's are a decent size but the boot is tiny and they are a bloody heavy car and totally dull, T sport is quoted almost the same mpg as the wrx and just about everything else seems a bit overpriced when compared to the above, there's a lot more to this buying a car mallarky than meets the eye these days it's a bloody minefield.
So yep the decision is made WRX Wagon PPP bang for buck is so difficult to beat, which now that I think back is why I bought it in the first place, all these threads with hot hatch talk gave me a bit of a nostalgia attack, but in the cold light of day the prospect of owning what's available doesn't appeal to me, there is also a fair bit of stuff in my garage I want to bring back out here and I recon the space in the wagon is going to come in handy for getting my engine crane in, in a couple of weeks.
edit to add, I'm not selling the ferrari eater it's a gem, and besidesI dont think anyone would actually take cash out their pocket and give to me except maybe Stevie Wonder.
So yep the decision is made WRX Wagon PPP bang for buck is so difficult to beat, which now that I think back is why I bought it in the first place, all these threads with hot hatch talk gave me a bit of a nostalgia attack, but in the cold light of day the prospect of owning what's available doesn't appeal to me, there is also a fair bit of stuff in my garage I want to bring back out here and I recon the space in the wagon is going to come in handy for getting my engine crane in, in a couple of weeks.

edit to add, I'm not selling the ferrari eater it's a gem, and besidesI dont think anyone would actually take cash out their pocket and give to me except maybe Stevie Wonder.
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