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Nine of those which concerned us. Contrary to popular belief Britain is not Americas bitch so it's about time we stopped acting like it.

Furthermore as I've said before we desperately need to fix our own house before we fix anyone else's and on top of this of we need to really help out other civilisations then save Zimbabwe and North Korea.

 

Iraq and Afghanistan were dictatorships, who was meant to ask for help?
I wouldn't mind someone actually saying why we went into Iraq and Afghanistan, rather than saying certain reasons aren't true.

It's also ironic Shaid that you treat your home as I would see how this country should be treated.

 

Are North Korea asking for our help? Lol.

 

Exactly, North Korea is a dictatorship how can the people ask for help.

So there you go we have a solution to fix the countries problems. Follow my example

 

In the same way I agreed we were right to remove saddam Hussain I agree someone should do the same in North Korea. Unfortunately who would go into North Korea? In the same way Iraq went into Kuwait it's only a matter of time before North Korea go into South Korea.
And they have nuclear capability and are constantly threatening the west and mentioning us in their threats along with the US.
But should we go in remove the nut case and leave, or should we help them form a democracy so they can decide for themselves who leads them in future regardless of the backlashes.

On the other hand should we ignore the entire situation until it is too late?.

 

I wouldn't mind all this patting ourselves on the back stuff over Iraq and Afghanisatan so much if either country was now in a better state than before we invaded it.

 

We've tried to stabilise countries that seemingly don't want to be stabilised.

 

The Islamists don't want them stable.

 

Incorrect, they just want to take over. Your take is emotional only.

 

Or maybe you are learning why there was a dictator in the first place. Take Saddam for example. Why should the Iraqi people be grateful for you to take him out only for another thousand Saddams to take his place. I'm genuinely surprised that Iraqis are not taking revenge against the countries that helped destroy theirs.

 

They are threatening the Americans and the South Loreans only. Both of which are capable of looking after themselves. This issue does not concern Britian.

 

Makes me crack.

 

It does and it does because we're a permanent member of the United Nations Security Council.

 

I tell you what, when your home is at risk of having an air strike and you don't know wether your kids will make it back from school or not then tell me wether you think war is worth it or not. I think a lot of the British warmongering comes from the countries arrogance and belief that it is untouchable by whoever it is waging war against.

 

You sound emotional.

 

I do get emotional. The constant British thinking that we can attack anywhere and then failing to accept the consequences. It's really a massive shame on a once great nation. I just wish more people would engage the Brain and think rationally for once.

Why did these terrorist guys murder the soldier. They said it themselves after they done the deed.

Why did 7/7 guys do what they did. Well they said it in their video.

Even Bin Laden gave an explanation as to why 11/9 happened.

None of this is anything to do with way of life or spreading Islam. It's all political and it has been brought about by our leaders warmongering along with the States.

 

Rule Britannia.

 

I think you're spot on. But do you believe that these sort of attacks/bombings would stop sharpish if Britain pulled out of these various countries?
I think it is down to the muslim community to weed out these extremists and turn them in. I appreciate that a lot of muslims want to integrate, but i'd say that equally as many don't want to know, and therefore it's virtually impossible for a white non-muslim man to get close to these people.

 

Is this the same saddam Hussain who used chemical weapons against the Kurds? Unless I saw wrong, the Iraqi people looked happy to see his statue fall?

The Iraqi people looked gutted...

 

"Prime Minister David Cameron has warned that Kim Jong-un's regime possessed weapons that could threaten the UK. "North Korea does now have missile technology that is able to reach, as they put it, the whole of the United States," he said.
"If they are able to reach the whole of the US they can reach Europe too, they can reach us too. That is a real concern."


http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/w...leave.20716261

 

To be fair we don't even have enough attacks to gauge wether or not they will stop sharpish. Compared to what Pakistan recieves on a daily basis all for assisting in the war of terror we have peanuts.

I will agree that it is out responsibility to weed out these guys when the public and press turn around and tell the black community to sort out their violent crime and street crime! That sounds racist innit?

Anyway the authorities know the culprits so they can deal with it themselves. If they fail to act then don't point the finger at the brown guy.

 

94impreza - sigh#

 

I suspect Shaid would feel differently about Iraq if he were Shia.

 

Your use of the words "you" and "we" would suggest you are not in the U.K.

When Saddam attacked Kuwait what was the response of surrounding Muslim countries? When Saddam was gassing the Kurds what was the response of surrounding Muslim countries? Were they the wrong type of Muslims? Check the history books before asking questions about Afghanistan.


I think that was 4 qualities but who's counting.
Do you have a check list at your front door to assess eligibility before being allowed entry?
I would add loyalty and a sense of humour to that list and be open minded enough to overlook any minor foibles.

 

Really, would I really. Hmm lets see I'm a Shia and Saddam is a ****. So the nice guys in planes come and take him and his cronies out. Yaaaay.

Oh crap now there are 1000 Saddams after me.

Nope - still feel the same.

 

Hey I'll admit the rest of the Muslim countries are **** too but here is the bit you need to understand. They kept their noses out of it which they should of. Anyway who put Saddam there in the first place eh, eh, eh

Afghan - I know the history. Still no reason to attack them though. Anyway as I said if war was war not just a case of sending the army to a country who possibly cannot attack yours then you will all be thinking different. It hasn't even been a century since the last two world wars yet lessons are easily forgotten.

As for my entry requirements. Yes, there is a list on the door, no fatties and no mingers and for those with a sense of humour they can **** off too!

 

Shaid, everything is ok, but expecting your best mate to bring his own booze is a Western thing IMO. You should be hospitable enough to share your beer cans with him instead. But if the beer monster is turning up *****-nilly Jehovah stylee, I understand.

 

Nobody in my family drinks and have you seen the price of booze! Expensive stuff.

 

Then you're a *****.