Really? Honestly are you really that weak inside that a building breaks your heart? Hahahhahaha

Well in response to stupid statements one should respond with equally stupid statements. How do you think the Iraqis fealt when the Englishman started bombing their country for no reason. How do you think and so on so forth (too many examples to type on iPhone sorry)

 

I have read this about the press so many times in the last few days yet where were you all when we needed signatures for the Leveson Enquiry reforms?

Currently even the watered down Royal Charter (which is BS anyway) is on hold as the press barons have decided to draw up their own set of guidelines (as they have proved they can be trusted NOT!) and that p1ss weak PM of ours is going to let them get away with it!

 

Break my heart? not quite, but I like most people find it offensive in the same way I wouldn't want a night club, a train station or a fricking pylon stuck at the end of my street, especially without it being put to people.
But that's the point really isn't it, that such buildings wouldn't be put up without the locals at least being able to convey their unhappiness.
This thread shows the problem with this country, that people are too scared to actually make public what they really think. I don't think integration is a negative, it's just that it is currently out of control. The white English man is expected to bend over backwards to accommodate so many different races, languages and religions at the moment that its hard not to feel like you are walking on egg shells and have no right to an opinion. Not a day goes by where I don't hear a conversation going on in a different language whilst I am standing there like a lemon, but then that's my problem isn't it, I should just be OK with that even though it goes against everything I was brought up to believe.
I should accommodate, not be accommodated
Its hard not to feel like organizations like the EDL or BNP are the only people with the guts to stand up for what they believe, only they are so far gone no sane Englishman would ever vote for them.
I agree we need to take a long hard look at why we as a nation are despised (looking like a puppy dog to the US doesn't help). But I also agreed with us going into Iraq to remove Saddam Hussain, but should have then left, and agreed with us going into Afghanistan to find Bin Laden and remove the Taliban (our fault in the first place).

 

To he fair I do feel for the Englishman sometimes. Especially when you are told you can't fly your own flag because it may offend me (it doesn't really, I couldn't care less all I ask is you treat your flag with respect and wash it now and again).

The racism saved by whites is an unknown statistic and doesn't even get a mention in the press. Which is a shame. I real sad shame too

I don't agree with removing Saddam and not leaving there
or going for Bin Laden as we are not the worlds police force and frankly it had nothing to do with Britian. It is for these reasons we have the problems we face today. We are reaping what we have sown. If you have a mentality that you should have never left Iraq you have no right to complain that your country is being taken over etc. Double standards and all that.

One day we are going for Iran. I just hope the army at that time has the ***** to tell the government to **** off, we are not doing your dirty work. I've always said if war was war. Ie, we recieve the same amount of bombings and bombardments as we dish out then I'm sure that all those English war mongerers who support the rape of other countries will have a long hard think before talking rubbish. I know that I'm going to be put down for this. But the truth often hurts.

 

As I said once saddam was removed we should have left but if we had left the country even more unstable then we'd have been blamed for that. 90% of British people wanted us to leave both Iraq and Afghanistan years ago, but we did the right thing hunting Saddam/bin laden.

Saddam Hussain wouldn't let the UN inspect if he had nuclear weapons facilities, he forced action to be taken.
Bin Laden funded and helped plan 9/11, so needed to be brought to justice.

The West aren't the "worlds police" but that doesn't mean we should turn a blind eye to some of the horrific things that go on in other civilisations.

 

You write as if you know what Muslims do and do not want but I'm confused, if the West receives pleas of help from Muslims being attacked by other Muslims with no equal means of defending themselves should they be helped or not?

 

My parents have been friends with a Muslim couple for a very long time. They get invited to all their family parties/ weddings, have an open invitation to use their holiday home in Goa, always receive a Christmas card and present from them....but this family's children were not allowed to mix with me and my siblings.
They explained it that although they knew we were brought up to be polite, hard-working etc that they didn't know what our friends were like so they couldn't take the risk. If their daughter started hanging round with me she might meet a non-Muslim boy and that couldn't be allowed.

Their own parents had moved here in the 1970s, escaping from Idi Amin. The women still don't speak English, that's a heck of a long time to live somewhere and not learn the local language, don't you think?


My lovely next-door neighbours are Muslim. They are very sociable people, always having parties and their back garden usually has a dozen or so kids running round playing. All of them are Muslim, in ten years I've never seen a visitor to their house who wasn't.


To me integration is about learning local customs and issues while still respecting your own. Mix with people from your own background but make friends with others too. It's hard to hate someone of a different religion if they're your best mate.

 

Actually He did let UN inspectors in. it was Hans Blix who believed Saddam was hiding WMD's and this was used as an excuse to invade iraq. No WMD's were ever found. India and Israel have never let UN inspectors in to monitor their nukes, yet no action was ever taken or indeed threatened.

 

This guy speaks the truth. I'm sure a lot will shoot him down in flames for it but he pretty much says what i have been saying.

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151596685813984

 

""To allow weapons of mass destruction to be developed by a state like Iraq, without let or hindrance, would be grossly to ignore the lessons of September 11, and we will not do it," Blair told an audience at the George Bush presidential library at Texas A & M University.

"The message to Saddam, therefore, is clear. He has to let inspectors back in -- anyone, anytime, any place the international community demands."

The speech capped the prime minister's three-day visit to Texas, and came a day after he offered more subdued comments "that Iraq would be a better place without Saddam Hussein."

As he did Saturday, Blair said no decision had been made on how to handle Iraq and insisted that any international military action would not be done without due thought."

From CNN 2002

 

Yes you are correct, just meaningless babble.

 

Yep, he's not wrong, the unfortunate thing is most people just don't see it, another one of the many,many reasons i'm making sure I GTF out of the UK, it's **** hole full of drones and retards and druggies.

 

13 years of a socialist government. Thank you Tony Blair and Gordon Brown. I'm also looking into selling up and moving within the next few years. Im English born and bred but dont want to retire here.

 

Well the media has interviewed the likes of Anjem Choudary on national TV over the last couple of days virtually giving the authorities the ammunition to arrest the sickos under incitement at the very least.

Nothing has happened, meanwhile some 15 year old white kid gets arrested for swearing at a demo. They are swearing on Eastenders nowadays, is that all they could come up with?

The Police have also spent time and effort investigating comments on social media sites and making arrests, all whites.

This is just the tip of the iceberg, different laws for different sections of the community.

Inept government, inept policing.

 

I agree with you only I don't want to live through the irony of becoming an immigrant myself. I was also born and bred here and nobody is going to drive me away. Even if our democracy and free speech is being eroded.

 

This law about inciting hatred via demonstration or publication is very one way and everyone is sick of it. It seems we are so scared we my offend yet are willing to be offended, scared to speak out in case we offend. The quickest way to shut someone up is to call them a racist. If we are ever going to move forward as a cosmopolitan nation we need to address this issue. Equality should be equal.

 

British who live abroad are not called immigrants. Their called Ex-pats

 

Yes, an Ex-pat in Dubai

I'd get arrested for knocking back my indigestion pills

 

You have to be momumentally dim to describe the last Labour government as socialist

 

Big smiling Tony at the front and the lefties nibbling away in the background, and hear we are today with Labour MP Sarah Champion accusing Cameron of being 'out of touch'

Probably out of touch by not being able to extract the county out of Labours multicultural ideal that is falling apart around us.

 

They may not have been socialist in every aspect. Indeed Gordon Brown claimed to be a Maggie Thatcher fan. But in some ways they were very socialist. Creating huge social housing and a benefit culture reliant on the government is a powerful control tool, as is generating jobs that are public sector.
And to be called dim by someone who couldn't spell or be bothered to spell check "monumentally" really hurts my feelings.

 

Has anybody heard of a family that own a lot of banks across the world? That supposedly control the governments, maybe that's where you need to look to answer your question why the countries are in turmoil.

I shall wait for someone to name this family who's knows more.

 

Yes, but none of that has the slightest thing to do with socialism. I get fed up of telling people on here this. Why the hell you can't work it out for yourself by doing the tiniest bit of research rather than trotting out some nonsense rhetoric you probably heard down the pub or read in the papers is beyond me.

 

Research 'NM ROTHSCHILD' family that will open a few eyes, starting with 9/11

 

Thank you for that very insightful reply. So you think state control has nothing to do with socialism? May i suggest you look closer at socialist country's and how there run and controlled. I think you will then see my points had everything to do with the point of that part of the debate.
And i don't frequent pubs, there all now Tesco. Why not jump off your high horse for once and add something to the debate, instead of just being belligerent?

 

I have added plenty to this debate both here and on many of the other of the myriad of threads we have had on this subject over the years as you would know if you paid any attention to what others say instead of just proffering nonsense (and making a grammar lesson or three look like a good idea for your evening classes into the bargain ).

Oh and I think you will find socialism in its true form is more about state ownership than state control. I think you're getting confused with fascism and nazism, ironic in the context of this thread really.

 

 

It's been a while

 

Iraq and Afghanistan never asked your for help. Not until you went in there and created even more Havock that was there in the first place. Furthermore I think we should fix our own house before deciding to fix anybody else's.

 

I'm Muslim and I will only invite a very few certain hand picked English folk to my house. Even some folk who i consider friends will jever enter my house. My best friend is not a Muslim and when he comes to my house he often brings his own beer too. His partner and son are always welcome and vice versa. My neighbours daughter sometimes comes to my house to chat with my wife and play with my young son. As long as a person has manners, respect, self respect and some etiquette then they can come in if they lack these three qualities then frankly they can get lost.