Rolf Harris......
19 April 2013, 05:14 PM
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So you're saying, I can right now go into a police station and tell them some complete stranger assaulted me (whose address I know), and they'd go search their house? No prior checks of its legitimacy?
If that is true, then I am both happy to back-track on what I have said above, and mortified.
If that is true, then I am both happy to back-track on what I have said above, and mortified.
What questions were asked, and their answers, is not public record, nor is information on the accusations. But given the profile of Yewtree they had to following these steps, regardless of whether the accuser has a valid complaint or if they've just nursed a grudge for 30 years that Rolf didn't pick their particular crap picture to show on telly.
29 August 2013, 11:49 AM
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CHARGED! 
TV presenter Rolf Harris charged in UK with nine counts of indecent assault and four of making indecent images
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29 August 2013, 01:02 PM
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29 August 2013, 01:22 PM
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Kind of ruins a lot of childhood memories for a lot of people I guess.
No excuse for what he did (if he did it), but there must have been a very large 'cover-up' culture for so many people to get away with it for so long.
No excuse for what he did (if he did it), but there must have been a very large 'cover-up' culture for so many people to get away with it for so long.
29 August 2013, 01:36 PM
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According to BBC article, the indecent images were made only last year! So it's not like these allegations are from some 60's groupie looking for a bit of cash jumping on the Savile bandwagon
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29 August 2013, 02:26 PM
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I doubt they are paintings. The 'making' indecent images charge is a bit of a strange one as it can be applied to downloaded images if they have been renamed, organisationally stored or manipulated in any way no matter how slight. The police/CPS try to use it where they can as it is of a greater severity than simply possession.
29 August 2013, 02:28 PM
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As you say: the public and the media should be more proactive in reminding people that a person is innocent until proven guilty and erring on the side of caution is not synonymous with presuming guilt! The more serious the accusation, the more important it is to apply rigorous standards of evidence when ascertaining whether someone is guilty or not.
29 August 2013, 05:25 PM
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That swimming advert he used to do in the '70s.... with all the kids....where he wiggles his foot out the water.
I always wondered what his other foot was doing.....
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...047N9kKMqSMksl
I always wondered what his other foot was doing.....
https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...047N9kKMqSMksl
29 August 2013, 08:20 PM
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I doubt they are paintings. The 'making' indecent images charge is a bit of a strange one as it can be applied to downloaded images if they have been renamed, organisationally stored or manipulated in any way no matter how slight. The police/CPS try to use it where they can as it is of a greater severity than simply possession.
29 August 2013, 08:28 PM
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Technically mate you're absolutely correct, but such is the fear and revulsion of these kind of crimes that the mere insinuation is good enough evidence for some. It's kinda become the: "Burn them; they're a witch" of the 21st century! So much of this seems to have descended into trail by media and that makes me very uncomfortable.
As you say: the public and the media should be more proactive in reminding people that a person is innocent until proven guilty and erring on the side of caution is not synonymous with presuming guilt! The more serious the accusation, the more important it is to apply rigorous standards of evidence when ascertaining whether someone is guilty or not.
As you say: the public and the media should be more proactive in reminding people that a person is innocent until proven guilty and erring on the side of caution is not synonymous with presuming guilt! The more serious the accusation, the more important it is to apply rigorous standards of evidence when ascertaining whether someone is guilty or not.
29 August 2013, 08:30 PM
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29 August 2013, 09:30 PM
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And the CPS are so dumb they wouldn't be able to weed out those sort of allegations? That was the Stuart Hall defence and it didn't work for him.
29 August 2013, 09:34 PM
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Technically mate you're absolutely correct, but such is the fear and revulsion of these kind of crimes that the mere insinuation is good enough evidence for some. It's kinda become the: "Burn them; they're a witch" of the 21st century! So much of this seems to have descended into trail by media and that makes me very uncomfortable.
As you say: the public and the media should be more proactive in reminding people that a person is innocent until proven guilty and erring on the side of caution is not synonymous with presuming guilt! The more serious the accusation, the more important it is to apply rigorous standards of evidence when ascertaining whether someone is guilty or not.
As you say: the public and the media should be more proactive in reminding people that a person is innocent until proven guilty and erring on the side of caution is not synonymous with presuming guilt! The more serious the accusation, the more important it is to apply rigorous standards of evidence when ascertaining whether someone is guilty or not.
29 August 2013, 10:03 PM
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Spot on, the mere insinuation of a crime in the media seems to be synonymous with guilt these days. Yes, the media may print a 8pt font retraction after the party has lost everything and been found innocent in a court of law but they are completely unaccountable. Rancid vultures the lot of them.
