I totally agree we are all not on put on this planet to have offspring
My ex wife couldn't have kids and I know the heartache it can cause
But the difference is she didn't parade down the streets in knickers and fishnets shouting about her sexuality niether did she walk like a bloke and adopt the outward persona of a man

Like I've said I don't hate homosexuality , I'm just not very tolerant of it
Ok some folk are gay , why do some of them have to shout it from the rooftops and parade round the streets like a freak
I'm all for any group of people asking and fighting for the right to better their lives but feel there are better ways of going about it
Half the time it's done for attention seeking " look at me I'm gay "
Well good for you , so what

Btw in all seriousness I've had very lengthy genuine discussions about this topic with my mrs son and various partners of his , and it is indeed a complex issue
But that said I do not agree with it , still

I'm not about to go out gay bashing or niether am I worried about my sexuality
If I wanted to fancy a bloke I would and that's that ,
And I also know that even if I did its still not straight cut and leads to confusion and the pressures to conform with the norm

I've whitenessed the affects of this and it is difficult , but needless to say the attention seeking aspect took over and made the situation joke

As for publicly making it known I'm not tolerant of homosexuality , I have face to face , to blokes bigger than me and rougher ( a bunch of scaffolders, sat in my house lol ) and you would never guess in a million years are gay
It's how I feel and like homosexuals is how I was born and nothing is gonna change it

 

Toneh, thanks for taking the time to reply and it being a bit more than 'it's wrong' etc.

Your last line makes an interesting point about the guys that would never be thought to be gay. I would imagine that is the case for many homosexuals. Not all are going to shout from the rooftops about it, they just get on happily with their lives like anyone else. Putting the parading around into perspective a bit, look at town/city centres every weekend and the parading around women do with their **** and ***** hanging out, that is largely attention seeking.

Most 'normal' people, all they want in life is to be happy and be allowed to exist in peace, gay or straight. There will always be outgoing, confident, even attention seeking people, again gay or straight, but really does it do us any harm other than at worst to annoy some of us? (not me btw)

I'm not here to try and make people change their minds, as I've said, everyone is entitled to an opinion. All I would hope people could think about is why they feel hate (not necessarily you) towards people that have no impact on their lives, just because they don't like something. Hating murderers or rapists or thieves etc. as they are hurting others is understandable but to hate people because of a different sexual orientation is just strange imo.

 

Back onto the topic of gay marriage
Now I can't vouch for the validity of this article
But it does show that there could be some truth in people's perception of homosexual relationships
http://carm.org/statistics-homosexual-promiscuity

 

" 28% of homosexual men had more than 1000 partners"

Holy ****!!

It would be fun listening to this lot 'trying' to squeeze a silent one out!

 

To be fair it is a survey done by some bible bashers
So I would expect it to be pretty anti gay

 

So f**king what??????

Why is this a problem for YOU?

 

Not really a problem for me , but a big bonus for you , looks like you won't have trouble hooking up with a nice bumder buddy

 

What an intelligent reply. Seems you have as much talent for rational discussion as you do for mapping... i.e. not a right lot!

Anyway if it's not a problem for you shut up about it and let others live their lives!!

 

Still shows batty boys go through alot of partners though, I wonder how many actually have protected sex to stop the spread of diseases they carry like HIV and all the rest?

 

Erm did I reply with " so f**king what "

Yes I see you are obviously very smart ( or think you are. )

And are now resorting to bringing in totally irrelevant subject matter

Please tell me what my mapping skills ( or lack of )
Has to do with you liking bum boys

 

Do you blame me? You are saying that some homosexuals have a lot of partners like it is some crime. As I said so f**king what?

Well seeing as you never answer the question put to you why not?

They are both non-existent... I am not gay and you have no mapping skills

 

The mapping jibes are so old hat now ( I've had em all )
So pretty pointless keep repeating the same old

In answer to your question , the topic is should gays be able to get married
And the point of pointing out the survey was
If these statistics are to be believed , it makes the the thought of bumders getting married a bit of a joke

 

Oiiiii, you two behave!!!

 

I can feel a ban coming on lol

 

Why? Many heterosexuals have plenty of different partners and others get married, why should it not be so for homosexuals?

Oh and if we are going to have a sensible discussion about this (fat chance of that I guess) using the term bumders is pathetic... apart from anything this topic is about gay marriage and that includes women as much as men.... something completely overlooked in this thread .... I wonder why so many of the anti gay and anti gay marriage fraternity can only focus on the male aspect of it? Hmmmm.... a psychologist's nightmare is this thread

 

Get you're reading specs on you bumder lover and
Read back through it and I think you will find I've mentioned women on more than one occasion

 

So why refer to them as bumders then?

 

So women can't be bummed then ?

FYI I had a video many moons ago with two lesbians bumming each other with a strap on

Therefore I would also class them as bumders


Btw I only had it to check out to see if its true and wierd acts like that do happen
I can now confirm , they do

 

So let's get this clear... by the term bumders you mean homosexual men and women yes?

 

Will you please grow up!

If you want to discuss this, by all means do so, but at least try to be adult about it.

I don't really want to lock this as I am all for people debating issues, but I will if the terms 'bumders' etc keep being used.

 

Nope, I'm fine with the the term homosexual, you seem to be the one that is confused with your term of bumders which now, according to you, includes all homosexual men except those who are celibate, some homosexual women and some heterosexuals (as yet unsure as to whether you have juist women in this category.. maybe you can enlighten us)!

 

oh no lisa has moderated me, im off..............

 

Bumders was used way before I joined in

It's the title on the poll !!

 

It's nothing personal

 

i know, but i learnt not to mess with you or illl get beaten with the ban stick
again......

love you lisa

 

You're right, however, for the most part, this thread has remained a sensible discussion, regardless of what each of us thinks about each other's opinions. The last few posts have just been outright childish and are exactly the comments that result in threads being locked.

 

 

And why didn't you pick up that the term bumders was used in the poll title before I said it ?
So I guess it covers both male and female omo,s
( can't be bothered to type the full word , it's gay anyway )
So consider yourself enlightened

Lost your reading glasses again I suppose , your gonna have to get a strap on
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Them glasses

 

There was one option not given in the poll.

"Don't give a toss either way"....gets my vote




more important things to worry about

 

And a bloke dancing around the street in pink marigolds , fishnets and a gimp mask is adult

Why don't you hit them with the ban stick