Notice that everyone urban could see was disgusted. But not Urban himself. He probably got home and masturbated furiously whilst hot tears burned his cheeks with shame

 

Thats right

 

I just came onto this thread and had a quick read through to see why all these pages to this thread was needed.I would like to ask a few questions to all the members who are supporting it.I would like to know if you voted yes because you are gay yourself?or if someone in your family is gay?or you have a friend that is gay?or you just believe it is the right thing for the society we live in today.because my opinion is that most of the naSayers have no contact with someone that is gay and there for no understanding why a man or a woman should be in a marriage with the same sex.this is a argument that would go on forever if you just don't agree to disagree.I've put up with racism most of my life and even though a racist can't give you the defining reason of there racism they will never stop there opinion,I guess that's life really.

 

I have some gay friends, plus I don't see a problem if they want to marry. I'll agree to disagree with those who think it is wrong!

 

I just believe it is the right thing for the society we live in today although I do have a couple of gay friends too, but I don't think that has any bearing on how I feel about it especially as neither of them want to get married.

Racists and homophobes are hewn from the same cloth really, they cannot present a rational reason as to why they think like they do, as you say... they just do. That just makes them extremely stupid in my book!

 

So you're saying that if you're against gay marriage, you're a homophobe?

 

Its not for us to deny them, but if you consider that Chritianity is founded upon a set of rules/values/whatever contained within the Bible, if those values say its wrong then to ignore that is to undermine the whole basis of that faith.

Personally I'd make it legal and leave it up to the religions in question to decide (and I'd guess the Christian ones will say no)

 

Yes, its appears that you are a bigot, homophobe, and ignorant

 

If that's aimed at me where did I say that? I didn't even imply it. Of course you can be against gay marriage and not be a homophobe as long as your reasoning is based on a bit more than 'they're not normal'.

 

That sounds errily familiar to the logical fallacy that if you are against immigration then you are a racist.

Edit:
f1, If I have misinterpreted your post then I apologise - given the context of this thread it seemed to me to be what was being inferred.

 

erm, same rule applies surely? If you said you were against immigration because you didn't think foreigners were normal or equal to so called 'natives' then yes. Swathing generalisations with no logic applied would be a concern.

 

No but if you write stuff like this then you are all three in my book (even if homphobia is bigotry so techincally no need to mention the two separately):

 

Yeah no worries, I was just really commenting on stonejedi's comment about racism, as I would imagine victoms of homophobia probably feel very similar to victims of racism, but I can see why the confusion arose

 

If you read this thread it is a bit confusing; trying to make out the difference between immaturity and actual homophobia.

 

You can add crass stupidity to that for me!

 

I actually thought the same thing!

 

Ok, a good point. But what of those values that heterosexual couples are supposed to abide by are broken. Things like no sex before marriage and such like. You still see those getting married without question.

Or would a certain rule being broken (like the example above where you have deliberately broken said rule/value) not be seen as heinous as being gay through no choice of your own.

Can you see my point?

 

up the bum and no babies....................

 

win!

ps do you want a quality street?

 

Sorry about that, I don't normally get embroiled in these kind of discussions but it was a slow day at work and I must admit to wearing my matching pedantic suit and hat yesterday...

 

Come on, you can't possibly be serious? If you're going to insist religions follow the rules of logic, you may as well get it over with and ban them outright from the start.

 

This is in principle what is being suggested, although in their desperation to push this through the exceptions (for CofE for example) will make a shambles of the whole situation. After all, if refusing to carry out a gay wedding in church on the grounds that it is against your faith is acceptable then why is the same standpoint not acceptable in a Registry Office? It is already a matter of public record that Registrars have been ruled against for exactly this scenario.
Human Rights being infringed yet again, apparently.
But whose, exactly.
Ask me and you'll get one answer.
Ask PeteBrant/Martin2005/F1Fan and you'll get another.

 

Near on 14 pages later, can someone remind me what it is that we find lacking in a Civil Partnership.

It isn't just about the sensitivities of a bunch of fairies is it?

 

And in our case it won't be a load of prejudice fuelled baseless nonsense.

 

Because they're scum and don't matter in the grand scheme of things not like proper alpha males like you?

 

You seriously can't figure out for yourself that membership of a religious organization is an entirely voluntary thing, with little more official standing than belonging to a local amateur dramatics society or chess club, whereas being a Registrar is a paid job where you're acting on behalf of the State? Seriously? And you're expecting people to have grown-up debates with you, about anything?

 

Agreed

 

I still want to know what the stand of all the religions is, on this matter.

 

And me.

I must be old fashioned though.

 

fill thy boots (both stances seem more enlightened than people on this thread)

http://www.quaker.org.uk/samesexbriefing

rock on the quakers

http://www.methodist.org.uk/news-and...e-sex-marriage