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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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"Unless you job/life depends on driving and/or you are very rural. If you live near a bus route (usually those roads that are gritted) then chances are you're not going to have much of a problem. "

I always thought your life is at risk every time you go out. Obviously the more often and further you drive the risk increases. But go tell that to afriend who popped to the shops on his motorbike and didnt put all his kit on. he now has one leg. And do you know what? It wasnt his fault.

Reduce the risk, increase your chances of getting home safe and sound every night.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by scud8
Because it still rains in the summer, and tyres with little tread depth will aquaplane.
I'm surprised you bothered to answer this question. It wont make any difference.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by r32
"Unless you job/life depends on driving and/or you are very rural. If you live near a bus route (usually those roads that are gritted) then chances are you're not going to have much of a problem. "

I always thought your life is at risk every time you go out. Obviously the more often and further you drive the risk increases. But go tell that to afriend who popped to the shops on his motorbike and didnt put all his kit on. he now has one leg. And do you know what? It wasnt his fault.

Reduce the risk, increase your chances of getting home safe and sound every night.
Perfectly worded, are you sure you didnt copy and paste
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Nope, you're thick!
I take it back, the chip would never fit on your shoulders as your head is probably too big
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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I take it back, the chip would never fit on your shoulders as your head is probably too big
Well don't worry as we can always store it in the space between your ears
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
Perfectly worded, are you sure you didnt copy and paste
Only the top quote...........................!

I see winter tyres the same as crash helmets for motorcyclists, seat belts for vehicle users and roll cages for rally cars.

I've never needed to wear a crash helmet, I've never needed to wear a seat belt. But I wear a helmet when on my bike and always did before it was a requirement, I've worn a seat belt every time I drive and done that before they were a requirement too.
But I know that one day and it might well not be my fault one of those could save my life and the life of those with me.

Like the guy said, he wanted to die like his dad, in his sleep. Not yelling and screaming like his passengers.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 07:13 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Well don't worry as we can always store it in the space between your ears
Your chip is so big it would not even fit in the great void that is between my ears.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 07:48 PM
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Typical M3 driver, yesterday.



My mates car, he managed to reverse off the drive, and abandoned it straight across the road.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 07:50 PM
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So, hopefully next time it snows he will leave the car on the drive instead of wasting money on winter tyres
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:00 PM
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AA man on the radio said winter tyres are a waste in this country... for a few days of snow we have it isn't worth having them.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:09 PM
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Because if they are too worn they'll probably be illegal

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Originally Posted by sweden
so by that definition why do you bother changing your summer tyres when they are worn down they willö still have plenty of grip in the summer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcHNQXB-EqQ
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
So, hopefully next time it snows he will leave the car on the drive instead of wasting money on winter tyres
He's going to buy some winter tyres, might be able to get it back across the road then.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
AA man on the radio said winter tyres are a waste in this country... for a few days of snow we have it isn't worth having them.
Winter tyres aren't just for snow though Rob.

Come up North and I'll personally show you the difference they make.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by RobsyUK
AA man on the radio said winter tyres are a waste in this country... for a few days of snow we have it isn't worth having them.
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Yes that is absolutely correct for most places in the UK, except maybe the underprivilidged areas around East Lancs where the inbreds live up in the hills.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
Yes that is absolutely correct for most places in the UK, except maybe the underprivilidged areas around East Lancs where the inbreds live up in the hills.
Are you from round here then?
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:33 PM
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Out of curiosity do the emergency services fit winter tyres to all their vehicles bearing in mind the speed they drive at compared to other road users.

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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
Yes that is absolutely correct for most places in the UK, except maybe the underprivilidged areas around East Lancs where the inbreds live up in the hills.
5under1and isn't in Lancashire.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
Haaa!! Your turn!!

I gave up with these 'tards' yesterday, there really is no educating some people...
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 10:36 PM
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When driving in snowy or icy conditions Winter tyres without doubt perform far better than 'other' tyres.
But when it is just cold and perhaps also wet the differences are just not worth bothering with because just driving a bit slower deals with the problem.

Nobody has really addressed the differences between different brands of Winter or Summer tyres. I have Michelin Pilots on my van for example and driving with these at the temperatures we have now isn't a problem provided there is no ice or snow on the road. As an example I can brake heavily at -10 degrees and stop without problem. The fact I might be able to stop a few metres earlier with Yoko W902s is irrelevant in any situation bar emergency braking (and when does that ever happen if you look past the vehicles in front rather than at the bumper in front?). Perhaps the guy in his Kia running a set of Nankangs or Kumhos would feel some real benefit from Winter tyres in cold weather but then again he will probably get some Ling Long Heros rather than the Yokos anyway.

There have been maybe 2 or 3 days this Winter where I have had to significantly moderate my driving because of the tyres, so unless things change drastically it just isn't worth bothering.
But if I lived in Scotland, Wales, the Peak District or anywhere else where snow and ice causes more problems then I would buy those Yokos.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 10:58 PM
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The missus just drove to Bristol (from Cornwall). We have a 335d on Summer tyres (!) and a 4WD camper on fairly sporty rubber (I have no idea why - they came with them). So she borrowed her grandparents LR Defender 90 (2009 vintage) on proper M&S rated skinny tyres and took that - sounds like she needed it too!!
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 11:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nik52wrx
Out of curiosity do the emergency services fit winter tyres to all their vehicles bearing in mind the speed they drive at compared to other road users.

Nik
No but they do fit winter tyres to the police helicopter and the air ambulance.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Are you from round here then?
Certainly not, and If you had the IQ that you think you have you wouldn't either.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 11:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
I may be the thick one here as I don't know what daps is
sorry Rob its a phrase they use where I live, winter tyres I was referring too
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 11:29 PM
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Funny how everybody who already have a set swear by them, yet people who don't have a set say their useless. How can someone with no experiance on something know better than someone who has experiance? Go figure.
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Old Jan 22, 2013 | 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmadcap
Certainly not, and If you had the IQ that you think you have you wouldn't either.
Er, I'm not from round here
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 12:05 AM
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Funny how everybody who already have a set swear by them, yet people who don't have a set say their useless. How can someone with no experiance on something know better than someone who has experiance? Go figure.
Now come on I've told you why... because they are all genius drivers who can make their cars defy the laws of physics... they are that good.

Originally Posted by Caoptain Tall Story
I don't know why anyone needs winter tyres if they have an Impreza, only yesteday I was driving on sheet ice up a 1 in 2 whilst having a coffee and watching Sky SPorts on my iPad and was p1ssing past everyone else in their 2WD sh1theaps stuck at the side of the road. Mind you I am a bloody ace driver so I think a lot of the difference is me and of course in the Subaru AWD system. Those of you that are advocating winter tyres are basically admitting you can't drive and you should all man up and get some driver trainig with someone like me as I'm a bloody hero. In fact it was so icy I couldn't get to the house from the car without crampons and an ice axe, but I didn't realise until I got out of the car as the combination of it and me made it feel like I was driving on a hot sticky Texas NASCAR oval rather than -30 in the Manchester suburbs. Anyway got to go as Seb Loeb's been on the blower and wants a few pointers from me.... winter tyres... my arrrrrssssse!

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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
So, hopefully next time it snows he will leave the car on the drive instead of wasting money on winter tyres
Ok you've made your point......you can't afford winter tyres, now wind your neck in and fvck off and leave the talking to the grown ups.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Wurzel
Are you really that stupid?
I believe so.
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Old Jan 23, 2013 | 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Falken 452s are not exactly the best tyre in the world I grant you, but nether are they the worst. I wouldn't lump them in with the 'utter crap' group The newer 453s are getting pretty good reviews, but they are quite pricey compared to the 452s.
In my sizes (225 & 255) theyre almost the same price at Camskill. FK452s were well reviewed too, but tyre reviews, especially by punters, are some of the most subjective opinions Ive ever read!

Falken are a Japanese brand and their tyres are manufactured in Japan. They may be made in the Far East, but they arent 'Far Eastern' in the way implied by some.


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