Infected by sti

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453/446 and the focus is 392/410 iirc or around those figures, been to a few rolling road days with him, I said earlier in this thread it goes like stink, and I'm honestly not sayin any different, but it feels bonkers and faster than it is by being 2 wheel drive and slamming a shít load of power through the front wheels, ill be honest when sat in there it feels faster than mine hands down and was expecting it to be a lot closer than what it was when I first got mine, but turns out I was quite pleasantly surprised

His is a puma speed conversion, sounds bloody lovely tho ill give it that when it's going for it

tubbytommy

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usc is a meet up for kids that like alcopops and weed smoking enthusiasts.

its a crap car show full of fords

Ash170990

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Decent set of tyres on it and youll be surprised.... greg maxwell is running 700bhp and similar torque, he says it still puts it down fine once in 3rd gear,.... 1st and second are a write off, but they arent brilliant as standard anyway...

Yes i know its an aerodynamic aid, dip****! thats why i said if he needs that to help win surley it doesnt handle well enough as standard...

All the videos youve put up and links have all either been in the wet or off the line.... i know it sounds like im being picky, but thats the scoobs 2 specialites, poor weather conditions and gettign off the line.... dry road rolling start, 30-130 the RS would win....

Look foward to my flake

tubbytommy

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so the only time the rs can keep up is if its dry and not from a standing start?
that makes the Subaru the best all round car then.
in the dry the 4wd still wins

Ash170990

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Maybe so, but id rather go hand out with some mates and have a beer, than stay in sucking a worthers like yourself

PrimeKos

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It will be worth it just to meet Ash..

tubbytommy

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ooooh mr impreza driver want a race with my rs.

right lets wait until its dry then we will both get up to 40 mph and then go, ill beat you I tell yah.......

Ash170990

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Im pritty sure in real world conditions in the wet, from a rolling start the focus would still win... the 2 secs on the top gear vid is probably half the advantage it got from launching..

Dave-W-

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I like mine too just a modest 437/400 but held my own with a gtr at totb




and had a load of fun on the handling circuit
(Saturday practice went a lot better than sunday )



only ford there worth a mention was a Ford Granada 6.3 Ltr called the beast

I think you need some driving lessons ash
get your mum to apply for your provisional m8

tubbytommy

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remind me again which car won???

Peedee

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So, On a dry summers day, with a rolling start, from 30mph, a highly modified, 25k plus glorified granny-mobile is pretty quick.....and you say you're not being picky?

tubbytommy

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yeh and I can beat andy forrest down the strip if he starts in 4th and facing the wrong direction.

LuckyWelshchap

Er...ahem.... there's vid somewhere in this thread I think.

Or did you mean on that same course in the dry?

The Pink Ninja

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Whats an extra 50bhp when the focus is nearly 50KG lighter and has an extra cylinder

Oh...Edited to say Steven drove the banana up there 11 seconds quicker...Yes it has no relevance but its worth a mention

Frenchwood

I came from the FWD Blue Oval ST arena... Granted, it was a 13 year old Mondeo ST, but after stepping into a Scoob (albeit only a WRX) I wouldn't say they're overrated. It has taken me 3 months to get used to the the behaviour in and out of corners at speed of course, and I still have a lot to learn, despite always having FWD/RWD performance motors with the exception of 1 or 2.

I think the difference on how people feel about Scoobs is this: I never bought the car with expectations of super car performance, I bought it with expectations of AWD, and a 5.8 second 0-60 (2.5 seconds faster than my blue oval) and that's exactly what I got.

So do I think that Scoobs are overrated? No. I got exactly what I expected. I could've bought and Audi, a Beemer, or another Ford ST, but I bought the Scoob, and I'd do it again. Simply because it challenged everything I knew about the way a car cornered at speed, and still does!

LuckyWelshchap

Another contender for 'post of the thread'

We're now starting to take the 'common sense approach'.

*You hear a lot about a car;
* You see if it does everything it says on the box;
*MORE importantly, you make sure it's like that;

There's no personal criticism ( even if you think there is and some come over as meaning it).

Bring it up in the Winter, and drive impassively as you overtake an Audi, fezzer, Volvo etc. You'll spread OUR word.

P1power

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I will answer in a mature way regardless of some of the silly things you have said..

Mate you deffo need to get your cars handling checked out as there's something not right..maybe the bushes need replacing? Do you have a rolling road print out? Is it using oil? Good compression??

I have a good experience of a few cars from the 300bhp r5 gt I currently own along with my impreza p1 running 550bhp and my v8 m3 I recently sold along with the mrs e46 m3 convertible and all the other type r/gti's bla bla bla that I used to own back in the day.

Iv owned my p1 for nearly 6 years now and I'm 29 years old and it started at standard power 280 bhp being the same as your type r to what it is now weighing 1270kg and 550bhp putting a whipping on Nissan gt-r's. I did it in stages of standard power to 330bhp to 370bhp to 415 to 450 to now being capable of 600bhp.

Directly Before my p1 I owned a mk1 focus rs when they first came out which was eventually stolen but regardless was running 360bhp on a gt28rs turbo with original ford Motorsport manifold, dreamscience and the full works from puma speed being pistons, rods, copper head gasket..the works!

And in a nut shell my impreza would give my focus rs a right pasting and that's no lie!

I'd have wheelspin/torque steer in from 1st to 3rd in the rs and by then my impreza would be a mile down the road "doing" 60 in 4 seconds at the time (now doing 3 and a bit lol) before the rs could finally put the power down on the rs which once it stuck would then fly but with just a basic remap exhaust and filter on my impreza my rs would then be put away for good! It only took 320 odd bhp for my p1 to beat my rs in every department even though the rs had more power. The rs handled amazing but the coil overs on my impreza dealt with that and the alcons on my impreza dealt with my rs's brembo's.

In every department it was beat and as I said that was after spending a mere 2k on modding my p1 to 330bhp at the time compared to the 10k plus I spent on modding my rs to run 360bhp. Loved my rs and I'd argue to the death like you when I was your age but there comes a time for a boy to turn to a man that was done once I got my p1 and il never look at a fwd for performance again.

I drove the new rs and it was ok..but it just felt like a modded st and front wheel drives are limited in what they can do so I wouldn't buy one.

The new rs weighs over 1400kg which is heavy compared to a classic impreza so there's your first head start.. Spend a little money on your impreza to make it run a genuine 330bhp and you'll make your mates 350bhp rs look silly. At 330 bhp I was doing 12 second 1/4 miles at Santa pod and your mate in his 400bhp rs would be lucky to do that in 13 as the last time I was at the pod there was a few modded rs's that couldn't beat 13. 1.. 1 whole second is a lot of difference!!!

In relation to a fiesta I won't even go there but as I said there is deffo a problem going on.. You should be running rings around him!

I'm always up for a laugh and sometimes il see some Leary **** in their suped up golf, rs etc and once I floor it's bye bye time followed by me then slowing down waiting for them to catch up and doing it all over again (yes I'm immature lol) however I try to save my power for more serious machines now days as I can't be arsed to waste the fuel anymore.

An impreza classic like a type r is a brilliant weapon of choice, There's not many cars in this world that have 4wd and weigh less then every modern fwd out there.. That's a brilliant recipe for a fast car! But you need to move with the times an update a few things.. Brakes, suspension and a few horses and it will then be a 2013 vehicle with 330 bhp weighing around 1270kg which is pretty quick!. To give you a comparison an m5 with 500 horses weighs over 1800kg!!! In other words I think you will then be very impressed with your subaru! Spend some more money after that and its skies the limit whipping super cars all day long if you want it too which is what mine does.

Ps if your even thinking about a cossie for performance I'd stay well clear as they will be twice as slow as your impreza.. Don't get me wrong i ABSOLUTLEY love cossies and was about to buy one but if your impreza is 13 years old then the cossie is 20 years lol with 80's tec and wooly suspension and with out spending a lot of dollar it won't be going anywhere very fast unless you buy a modded one which had already had thousands spent on to raise the baby 225 bhp they begin with.

LuckyWelshchap

And there, as they say, you have it......

classic Subaru Si

Don't agree with that statement to be honest. Having owned a 3 door for some years, and also a Subaru I would say there's not much in it. The Cosworth is more fun to drive though, due to the twitchyness. Yes, they are laggy but when you hit full boost on a T4 turbo there's nothing quite like it. It's all about what YOU want out of a car at the end of the day.

ditchmyster

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So we have come full circle, Again.

Learn to drive young man, learn to drive.

ditchmyster

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Someone please send a link to this thread over to passion ford or the **** owners site.

I want to see if they are all as delusional as ash.

P1power

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I was only stating facts mate.. it is a very old car now albeit a great great classic but witb not much more then 220bhp 0-60 is in nearly 6 seconds and 100mph in 14 seconds compared to a standard impreza type r/p1 of 0-60 in 4.6 and 100mph in 12 seconds which is quite a gap to put it lightly. That's even before you get to the thinner smaller tyres on the cossie, really long throw on the gear stick and no dccd, tiny brakes, much lower top speed etc etc etc. Like I said a lot of dollar changes all that.

Once youv uprated the suspension, brakes, fat wheels with sticky rubber and added an extra 80bhp to the cossie then it's a fair playing field and anyones race.

I think this was actually covered on a very old episode of top gear lol.

But as i said I'm not dissing the cossie in anyway so don't get me wrong as like I said they are still amazing cars which I'd still love to own in a heartbeat.

Type20Paul

I'm on an ST and RS owners forum and I think I might post a link. When I posted what I'd bought I'd quite a few RS owners commenting on how it was an awesome bit of kit. On the forum I'm on 90% of the guys accept that the Ford ST and RS ranges are just very well sorted examples of mass market cars and don't share the dillusion that they are the best thing since sliced bread. They appreciate and know their limits. I loved my old 220 and having driven Fiesta STs, Focus STs and RSs and Mondeo STs I can say that they do offer a lot, but they are not Impreza rivals, nor do they pretend to be. The Focus RS is a pretty quick and comfortable car that is necely spec'd, cheap enough to run and service and handles very well for a FWD hatch. It is a completely different proposition from a Type R Impreza. Or any Impreza.

I wouldn't bash someone for buying an ST or an RS - I know it's a popular band wagon to be anti Ford on this kind of forum, but in truth they do make some good cars. But I also would never try and say that a Fiesta ST is a match for an Impreza. It's just not. They are good fun as you can grab them by the scruff of the neck and thrash them while never worrying about much chance of a big oversteer moment and they are very easy to learn to drive at 90% of their limit. The Impreza is not such an easy car to learn. After 3000 miles in mine I'm still growing in confidence with what mine can do and am learning more about it by the day. I fear Ash may just be too used to the ease with which you can jump into a well sorted FWD hatchback and isn't prepared to try to learn how to drive his car correctly. But, if he does decide to listen to what people are telling him he might find he has a much better car beneath him than he chooses to believe.

tubbytommy

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Very interesting read but i think the conclusion is ash cant drive and is just an idiot

ditchmyster

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I think we got to that conclusion about 15 pages ago.

thenewgalaxy

+1

Ash170990

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any of you are welcome to book onto the next track day i do, at least them youll be able to comment on my driving.... Cause at the mo it's you guys that are the idiots

tubbytommy

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we are???


who got his *** handed to him by a fiesta

is it a track day for learners?? do I need my mum to sign the permission slip?

ditchmyster

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You really didn't mature at all once you got past 12yrs old did you.

Mate you need to give in and just admit that you need some tuition, it's nothing to be ashamed of, everyone has to start somewhere, most pro drivers even in F1 have ongoing tuition.

Seriously, when you book your next track day just have a few laps with an instructor as well, it will be better than any mods you can do to your car.

Edit to add: I along with many others on here i'm sure have had a fair bit of tuition on track in cars and on bikes, I even went to the British rally school for my birthday when I first got my Type R, because it was so different to my previous WRX, and when I got a 4x4 I had a week end at the Land Rover off road experience centre so I'd know what I was doing off road, there is no shame in admitting you don't know what your doing and getting someone to show you the error of your ways.

Type20Paul

He has been given every possible opportunity to say, 'ok guyes, maybe I need to change my driving technique here', but no. Instead we are all idiots. And he won't even listen to good adive when he gets given it. Oh dear. He'll learn one day. Meantime, if he has a GoPro I'm sure we would all be much obliged if he would upload some footage of his driving so we can see this driving God in action.