Kwik, you see your attitude is I'm afraid another example of laziness in our modern world imo.

You can't be bothered to check the candidates' spelling and grammar not because you think it's overly important but it's because you cant be bothered to proof read every single CV, or you don't have the time maybe. That's fair enough and that is your call of course, but it is important as it shows a basic level of education that everyone should have.

 

Elevated by who's standard or judgement?.

 

You mean whose i presume? See, things like that just make me realise that for you, grammar and spelling is a side-show. Ok, for some people it is. For me, it isn't. That doesn't make you right and me wrong, it just means we have different ways of judging people. f1 and Bioforger both see it as a sign of laziness. Maybe you're employing sub-standard employees by ignoring it, how about that as a theory?

 

Now you're judging me lol.

 

Not at all it's just my opinion

 

I notice you have just edited your spelling mistake .

I'm quite open minded until proven otherwise. If you wish to live your lives judging people in this way then I guess that is your right.

 

Quite obviously you have judged me. Incorrectly I may add.

 

I edit spelling mistakes if i see them, Kwik, i don't use a spell checker of any kind. Please don't try and insinuate that a typo is the same as not knowing the difference between who's and whose. Or that judgment doesn't have an e in it, the sort of stuff i'd usually overlook. You seem to want to ignore the fact that we ALL judge people all the time, by our own criteria we deem important. So far, my criteria have proved very useful in identifying genuinely intelligent people; until that lets me down, i'll continue using them.

 

You are now contradicting yourself. You made a mistake by spelling employing "emplying". This was sheer laziness on your part.
I'm fine with it, but F1 fan will not be "emplying" you.

And this...

..is possibly the most arrogant thing ever written on Scoobynet.

 

My judgement was based on your laziness to check the CVs correctly. As you believe it isn't important. It not being important to me in my opinion is important and anyone who thinks otherwise is either, dim, obviously that isn't you or lazy. We will have to agree to disagree on this I guess

 

Getting there

 

Kwik, mate, give it up. There was nothing lazy about it whatsoever. I typed a response and hit send so that it appeared chronologically correct in the thread. I then scanned it to check for spelling errors. I saw one, i corrected it. You have a non-story here.

 

Incorrectly. At no point in time did I state that I did not check the CV's correctly. What I did say is that when I had read them I didn't obsess over their grammar.

Your judgement was poorly made.

 

You made a slap dash lazy post because you could not be bothered to articulate yourself in the original statement. Pure chance directed your eye to the mistake and you corrected it.
You must now live by your own rules and find yourself "unemplyable" like the rest of us....

 

Yea but that's my point, for me not checking the spelling and grammar should be part of the checking process and this should be the first basic check you do before you even read the candidate's name.

No it wasn't. You're doing a poor job, hows those apples?

 

Do you mean Yes?. I checked, as previously stated, although you seem to obsess over others spelling you seem unable to read.

 

Get out of here, I have written far worse

 

Mistake after mistake!!
Just re-read the posts FFS!

 

I think you are missing part of the point here.

There is a big difference between making a job application and making a post on a forum. The odd typo is perfectly understandable on a forum, but not on a job application or CV as far as I am concerned.

As I said if you can't be bothered to check your spelling and grammar when applying for something as important as a job then you are unlikely to show any more attention to detail when actually doing that job.

 

Sigh, that isn't spelling that's poor grammar on my part, so who's obsessed with it now? Ok so if the CV was littered with spelling/grammar errors then you wouldn't consider them, how is that different to a few errors? a standard should be set regardless.

 

That depends on the job doesn't it. I'd rather judge a brick layer on the last wall he built rather than if he can spell.


A CV is full of different information and can be used by any employer in any way they see fit. Me personally I look for experience in similar roles purely as our training is limited to say the least.
As for being obsessed with grammar, if you judge others for it then you should be perfect at it yourself, neither you or Tel are though (oh the irony)

 

What on a forum? ok Point is on my CV I would make sure it was absolutely perfect as I do with all my communication at work. And you aren't exactly in the best position to criticise with the diabolical errors you have already made in this thread either

 

But with all due respect, who are you to judge (here we go again) whether anyone's grammar is "perfect" or not? From what i've seen that's something you should be leaving to somebody else? And what is perfect grammar anyway? Nobody on here, despite one ****** cretin who thinks otherwise, has ever found substantive fault with my grammar. Ok i'm not always the most eloquent, i'm not a professional writer in any sense, but i get most things right, most of the time. That doesn't even begin to be ironic. Not even close.

 

Not really as why should a bricklayer's grammar and spelling necessarily be bad? Even if it is and he takes the time or gets help to make sure his application is well written I'll bet he takes as pride in his work. As a barometer it's a good one in my book!

 

you really use things like that as markers of significant importance? - ok your, you're, isnt too much of an issues but for me but - there, their,(mostly those 2 present a situation where im much more likely to make an error.
,but i wouldnt go back on an internet forum post and correct it - on a job cv i most definately would. thats my point, this forum like most, is a place for discussion on topics which a group of people are interested in. its generally light hearted or to serve the purpose of educating those that ask about a topic usually on the forums base - unless that forum is about spelling , grammar or the likes lol.

now that may be classed as lazyness by some, but on a forum like ive said before - being spot on is not on the top of my list of priorities - so maybe lazy in some terms. i would however correct all grammar and spelling within my ability on a cv or a document i deemed important enough to merit the extra time sent on it.

im not an employer, but ive been through several different interveiw processess - and small grammatical errors. or spelling errors id forgive if the candidate was clearly the best person for the job. i deem myself a fairly good judge of character, and spending a little time with the candidate, some under "pressure" scenarios and some just as a person - and from this id feel much more confident id choose the right candidate - personality and specific knowledge over rule my a fckin mile, the ability or not to use a comma in the correct place on a peice of paper.

now if your employing a lawyer or a legislator of some sort where these things are very significant then its a different story.

bit O.T there lol

but heres a question, knowing my attitude towards the importance of this topic, would the employers on here immediately dismiss me as a potentail employee - due to this?? going from what you know in totality of me and my personality on here, and my level of knowledge or attitude in general - genuinely would i be passed by due to my relaxed attitude towards language?

 

Jef, sorry need to get an early one but to be brief, my point would be that once you've properly understood the difference between there and their, or your and you're, it's almost impossible to get them wrong. Sometimes i wish i could totally disregard such errors, but i can't differentiate between a forum and any other media. Why should it matter where it's written? Learn it once, learn it for life. OTT? Me? Ah maybe just a teeny bit, sometimes

 

Not if you want to work for Kwik, you'll be fine

 

If you believe a word to be written a certain way, no matter how often you check it you will still believe it to be correct.
I couldn't care less who makes mistakes, but people in glass houses should not throw stones, I'm merely pointing out you also make mistakes.
Look how badly you have reacted to having criticism put your way.

Tel, If it is perfectly acceptable to criticize and judge others by their spelling/grammar mistakes then why can I ask are you getting so angry and resorting to name calling when the tables have been turned?.
Ironic?

 

Kwik, the tables never have been turned, that's my point.

 

I guess it's better than being a self absorbed, fśckwit cretin in denial.

You need to man-up and simply admit you make errors too. You're far from perfect as this thread has highlighted. I can see you haven't got the personality to admit you can make errors and rather use any excuse to justify your mistakes are somehow different.

Little man syndrome is as bad as spelling and grammar mistakes and for that reason you're not getting the job.