Hawkeye D

Would be interesting to know what that is.

Looks like the a/c belt on this must be a stretch belt - no bracket or tensioner pulley that I can see....

Don Clark

MY08 onwards

The Joshua Tree

To save me starting another thread i'll give this one a bump.

I'm looking at changing my car soon Which is a 2018 BMW M2 DCT, i've been having a look at a few options and this Cosworth CS400 came up on one of the searches i was doing.

I'm just after a few opinions, would this be a step backwards in power compared the M2, what's the handling like on the CS400, what's the build quality like, i guess that even with it being a premium model it will feel a bit cheap and plasticky inside like previous Subaru's ?

How do you see values going in the future ?

Don Clark

Seeing as it's based on a basic MY10(?) that has been "modified/upgraded" you are probably right.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review...reza-sti-cs400

fpan

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I haven't driven or been a passenger of a CS400 but a friend of mine owns a M2 and I can say that is a phenomenal car out of the factory, only with upgraded pads and tyres it zoomed around the Ring and on country roads.
I think you may find the CS400 more 'boring' on dry roads being AWD compared with the M2, on the other hand on the wet the Impreza would be the car I'd want to be in.
Personally, if I was the owner of a M2 and having seen what it can do, I wouldn't change it for the Impreza (I own a JDM 2008 Impreza STi 20th anniversary which is a fantastic car but the M2 is quicker).

rossyboy

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The M2 will always depreciate more due to numbers made, but put too many miles on the Cosworth and it’ll suffer. Nobody will want one with 100k+ on it, unless it’s cheap.

Nelzsti

I had am M2 DCT with about 400ps for about 6 months. It just never hit the spot for me personally, it was a lovley car but just not raw enough to tingle the senses.

I have never driven a CS400 but would imagine its a riot to drive, probably crap build quality compared to the M2 but much more fun. For a weekend toy i much prefer my scoob to an M2

The Joshua Tree

The only thing that puts me off is the probable build quality for the kind of money they command, if they were under 20k then yeh i don't think you'd hesitate but £30k plus for something that will probably feel cheap and dated on the inside, that's the prob, i'm sure it would be fun to drive and i like the styling plus it's 4 door which i need.

Nelzsti

What about the new shaped sti , they look better on the inside, try pick one up with a forged motor Or for 36k try a Alpha Quad maybe

paulhchawner

I am afraid with a Scooby, whether a standard STi etc or A CS400, you have to accept the compromise on 'Plastic' lol.
My CS ain't even goy keyless entry/Ignition where as my 330s has it and Recaro seats etc
Only 70 brake between the 2 but like chalk and cheese in terms of delivery imo.
It's not just the engine/Turbo on the Cosworth, also different suspension set up exhaust etc.
Yes the £30k could be a deal buster for some but as only about 57 out of 75 made still going in UK, the likely hood that prices should go up is quite good imo.
The Beamer(also around £30k) on the other hand is no doubt better built and more luxurious and probably more reliable, BUT it is one of approx 3000 so it's debatable as to whether is an appreciating classic.
There is a good chance the Scooby will still be worth at least the £30k in 5 years time(more i hope)
On the other hand the Beamer will more than likely be worth, nearer £20k or less.
Only an opinion and any car is only worth what someone is willing to pay at the end of the day, no matter how niche.

johno01

I wouldn’t say your very lucky to have 2 beautiful cars as you have probably worked hard for it but you do have 2 lovely cars there mate lol 👍 only talking about the Subarus btw

paulhchawner

I have worked hard and been lucky as well.
A brickie for 33 years the hard bit and buying and selling from office at home for the last 11 years is definitely the lucky bit.

Markyscoob

So, turns out one of my good friends owned NO 3 of 75 CS400. Was Written off after a collision with a granny who was also to blame for it. My Mate was totally gutted. Front end damage and he tied to buy it back but Insurance Co sold it to a Rally team first. Black car Isle of Man registered.

paulhchawner

A mate has just moved to IOM. Onchan, Douglas. He has a nice UK300, say Hi if you see him on your travels if he's out and about in it.
Runs a Vape Shop 'Royale Vapes' on Finch Road Douglas. His name is Joe

The Joshua Tree

Is he going to have a go at breaking Mark Higgin's lap time on the TT course ? I'm joking obviously lol, it looks a nice car, i'd change the spoiler to the higher Sti one.

paulhchawner

He's got a couple of Bikes as well, but don't think so lol. He's mad on TT that's why he moved.
Don't think he'll change anything as Limited Edition, 77 of 300.

paulhchawner

A mate is after a CS400.
He can't register for some reason. So if anyone has any leads can you give him a bell or post a link, please.
Cheers me dears

Tel Alex 07956193368

paulhchawner

Alex is now the proud owner of Number 30 in Grey. with only 11500 miles on the clock.
He phoned me on the way back down from Scotland, sounded like a kid in a sweety shop.

paulhchawner

CS400 OWNERSHIP

Total Customer cars 75 Plus 3 other Builds


YEAR PERIOD TAXED SORN TOTAL

2020 Q3 36 21 57

More information:
https://www.stillontheroad.co.uk/car...RX-STI-TYPE-CS


"P000" CS500 White Cosworth Employee

Press Prototype-01 Silver (? written off)
Press Prototype-02 (C.C.) 2010 Black Isle of Man

1. 2010 Silver Andy Edmiston IM

8. 2011 Black ???

10. 2011 Black ???

26. 2012 Red ???

29. Richard Loving ?

30. 2010 Black/Grey Alex South London

45. 2011 Red Monsterenergy Scotland (info via SIDC)

50. 2012 Silver Stephen Franklin Fareham

54. 2012 Silver David Curtis London

57. 2012 Silver Kungfujim444 Reading

74. 2012 Silver paulhchawner Newmarket

75. 2011 Silver mikeyw Midlands

hedgecutter

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New Galaxy and Busterbulldog sold theirs .

paulhchawner

I now have only 5 x Genuine Subaru Cosworth CS400 Exhaust Front Pipe and Cat left For Sale.
If any CS400 owners out there want one then you can arrange collection anytime(Cambridgeshire) and bring £240 with you.
Message me if any questions.
It's that classic saying 'When there gone there gone'
No longer being made by Cosworth and I believe I is the only one who has any.

paulhchawner

Anybody know where to buy Air Filter for Cosworth CS400

Gambit

iTrader: (6)

if its just a replacement cone then just look up AEM website and try to work out what cone is used. Or else just get any other cone filter that has the same inlet diameter etc

pacenote

These people may be able to help

ITG | High Performance Automotive Air Filters (itgairfilters.com)

johno01

out of curiosity mate how do the cosworth Subaru and 330s compare? I know chalk and cheese but power delivery, handling etc... very interested to know

Gambit

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I might be able answer a bit for you given I have a 330s which i bought as std spec car albeit forged but has since been fitted fmic, gt30 but with genuine full cosworth suspension and cosworth exhaust system and is circa 400bhp - but still in std sti brembos

They dont compare in any shape or form. Handling is night n day compared to std 330s. Performance wise 330s is quick but very muted in comparison to cosworth.

What I will say is 330s is a better spec'd interior. Better recaro seats, better head unit/sat nav, keyless entry etc. Though larger frame people dont like the tightness of the recaros. Cosworth are retrimmed standard sti seats

Would I take a cosworth over a 330s everyday yes.

johno01

very interesting mate...what turbo comes with the cosworth and 330s?

Gambit

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Cosworth runs a gt30 and 330s is vf48 same as all sti from 08 onwards

johno01

in standard form?

Gambit

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Only difference between 330s/PPP upgrade over sti is the second cat delete, prodrive backbox and a map tweak. Both use vf48. As does 320/340r