I understand why you want to get away from a government like that. I honestly just don't think you'll get a better one. I'd like to be wrong on that count.

Still, I see Mr Farage is using the route I guessed he would - deliberately offend the Scots in to leaving, so he has a reduced number of Labour seats to defeat. He's even painting Cameron as a toff who the jocks ares subject too. Devious. I like his style. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...-Yes-vote.html

 

Indeed he has - several times.

but like your 20 billion gaff he's talking out of his ****.

Scotland - with the oil money, has a current deficit of 12 billion PER YEAR. (Scottish gov figures).

If you take out ALL of SCOTLAND'S share of the debt payments it's approx 7 billion a year.

And that's before he starts pissing the money away on setting up everything he's promised and everything he will have to set up if he walks away from the DEBT ! (or indeed if the UK tells him to get tae **** - After all 120 billion of debt on top of the 1.3 trillion is a **** in the ocean).

 

Could probably balance the books without borrowing if walking away from the debt and abolishing NHS Scotland, that is assuming everything goes as well as it has done already in terms of tax receipts. Then my mortgage and business loans will be converted to Jocks and paying 25% interest

 

Just another small point I forgot to mention earlier, by posting a picture of your ballot paper, you have effectively broken the rules, and your vote should not count.

This is not the same as you telling us have voted yes, that is your right if you wish to do so, but you are not allowed to show your ballot paper to anyone else.

Of course, it would require someone to inform the authorities of your action......

 

This process has made me worried about any EU referendum.

What you get is 2 sets of incomplete arguments, half truths, and spin. And joe public is supposed make an informed choice?!

 

It's feels like it's coming down to who you think is telling the fewest lies !

 

There won't be an EU referendum. Cameron won't win a GE so couldn't offer one, Milliband won't offer you one, Farage would just pull us out without one.

 

This is true, so the people of Scotland really should look at today's announcements, and last week's dip in the market at a sniff of the Yes win and ask themselves why those independent bodies think that way.

Or, they could listen to Alex 'Braveheart' Salmond and believe he has it all covered.....

 

It feels to me it's going to go the way of a EU style "We don't like the result, vote again until you get the result we want" if Salmond's campaign loses.

 

I'd stick to train spotting and moaning about life, the universe and everything mate.

Its pretty clear you know f*ck all about much else

 

I listened intently to John Swinney (Scottish Financial Secretary) on Radio 4 this morning.

It was truly scarey how few answers he could give to straightforward question

'How much will independence cost' "err, umm, change the subject"

'What happens if you can't get a currency union' - same answer

And on it went

I'm pretty sure he's going to be kept out of the limelight for the rest of the campaign

 

This.

Lets look at a slightly larger picture. So BP is on record as saying indepedence is bad and theres not as much oil.

Theres a shocker. Not.

If you had a licence to print money, which licence was free, and you had favourably agreed terms with Westminster over the tax you paid not just on the oil but corporation tax too, would YOU want the status quo to change?

Of course not. The oil companies are first and foremost there to make money for their stakeholders. They are not there to comment on what is best for a Country. Independence may be better for Scotland, but it will not be better for BP. Don't for one second think that BP and others give a toss about anything other than their bottom line.

 

And this surprises you because?

Personally, I'm surprised the question isn't more like "Are you sure you don't want to not perhaps leave the UK?"

 

That's right?

So a) there's no chance they will go, and b) no chance it can all go pear shaped then?

Now THAT'S blinkered vision

 

Surely this isn't good new for Salmond!

I really didn't expect that.

Of course, Nizmo will be along shortly to tell us that the Scotsman is a Westminster puppet......

 

Oh come on!!! The "Royal Bank of Scotland", and and also the LLoyds controlled "Bank of Scotland" are part nationalized by the Westminster government. Of course they will toe the line with whatever their masters tell them.
It comes as no surprise to me or anyone north of the border. It only goes to prove the underhand tactics by Westminster.
Saying they will relocate south only strengthens the YES vote. I don't believe for a second they will actually do it. I wonder many Scots will close their account if they did?

 

+1. The greedy corporations are as sycophantic as the leeches in Westminster.

 

Not Westminster - Brussels - The Mob Salmond insists is best for Scotland.

https://www.accountancylive.com/eu-l...h-independence

The rest of the UK is not trying to **** Scotland - Scotland looks like it's maybe going to **** itself through ignorance !

 

Haha, on the one hand people say RBS and Lloyds are out of control, the government are powerless because they still do whatever they want, pay out huge bonuses etc. but as soon as they say anything against Salmonds utopian Scotland, they are Westminster lackeys!

I assure you, those decisions have nothing to do with Westminster. If they thought having their headquarters in Uzbekistan would be better for shareholders, then that's where they would go.

 

ps I know Salmond will say "the EU will change everything to let us in" - that's bull**** too !

 

The "Scotsman"??? Does anyone even read this? Its sales figures are so low that even many local papers have a bigger circulation. I can't see anyone taking a blind bit of notice.

 

Well, I suppose the undecided are what's going to win or lose this, so whilst it hasn't got a huge circulation, it has made the headlines.

Has the Daily Record stated its support yet?

 

I don't think so, but they seem to have more articles in support of "No" than "Yes". So in my opinion they just might be a little biased.

 

So lets assume its a yes vote. Can you please explain why a bank based in an independent Scotland have to answer to the EU?

 

Because Mr Salmond is basing a load of his spurious arguments on why you'll be better off split from the UK on being accepted immediately with open arms into the EU - which means that you have to accept their rules.

Not going to happen.

 

It's the little things that somehow matter that really bothers me. Like how are the "An Englishman, Irishman and Scotsman go into a bar" jokes going to sound in the future? Will Carol Kirkwood still give us the weather forecast for Scotland on BBC news in the mornings? Will there be border disputes like between Spain and Gibraltar?. Who will elope to Gretna Green? How about sales of Buckfast Tonic wine?
It's all a worry..

 

They wouldn't.

But Salmond has stated "Scotland WOULD be in the EU - they're nae daft - we'd be the richest and best country ever."

Are you saying Scotland WOULDN'T be in the EU - cos if you are you'd better vote NO cos Salmond's half baked plans ASSUMES it will be !

Good luck

 

How so? Why are they biased if they support No, but, I assume, not, if they support Yes?

 

Its as much due to legal necessity as anything else and was comented on months ago. Nothing to do with jobs, or prosperity - read the detail, not just the headline sensationalism.





Scottish independence: RBS confirms London HQ move if Scotland votes 'Yes'






Royal Bank of Scotland has confirmed it will relocate its registered headquarters to London if Scotland votes for independence next week.

The bank said in a statement that it believed it would be "necessary to re-domicile the bank's holding company".

In a letter to staff, the bank's chief executive said there was no intention to move operations or jobs.

Meanwhile, Scotland's largest fund manager's boss said an independent Scotland would be a huge success.

Martin Gilbert, chief executive of Aberdeen Asset Management said: "I think an independent Scotland would be a big success, but it is a secret ballot and I will abide by that.

"Most sensible people now accept that Scotland would be prosperous with either outcome in the current constitutional debate."

 

yes - it is the simple "follow the money" argument

and regarding banks - the HQ location is a simple technical/legal device

another non-issue from the pathetic No campaign

(and I want to keep the union - but with these clowns in charge, fvck me - the basic problem is that Cameron and chums have been educated above their ability)

would they really relocate all those jobs to London and the Southeast, the wage bill would triple/quadrouple

(good for London house prices though, so I shouldn't complain)