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We were in the very fortunate / interesting position of being the very first two cars in to the Dartford Tunnel after it had been reopened following a brief closure, cue a rolling start from 20 in second gear to whatever the speed limit is in the tunnel Originally Posted by SirFozzalot
30bhp difference in real world on the road conditions won't be much to see, especially if the lower BHP car gets on the power just a second before the other car or if the driver is quicker on the gear change or if it's behind and close it will get the benefit of "drafting" the car in front. So many variables on the road.
Cue a second attempt - still no difference!
What was your peak torque Dan? Mine was about 280 lbs ft.
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my peak was/is just over 275 @3750rpm ish. Peak HP is 251 @ 5500rpm. Is quite hard to tell because of the scale, ill try and get my graphs uploaded at somepoint.
I know for dam sure ill be getting her serviced before the next one, who knows there might be a cheeky de-cat and map involved.
I know for dam sure ill be getting her serviced before the next one, who knows there might be a cheeky de-cat and map involved.
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They look good together 
Must admit the mud flaps do look good was having second thoughts but mind made up now.
As I was in front most of the way home, missed the fun
Still good day and good to meet new faces.
New exhaust and map to come as soon as possible.

Must admit the mud flaps do look good was having second thoughts but mind made up now.
As I was in front most of the way home, missed the fun

Still good day and good to meet new faces.
New exhaust and map to come as soon as possible.
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I know for dam sure ill be getting her serviced before the next one, who knows there might be a cheeky de-cat and map involved.
Ther service may have helped a bit. Originally Posted by DantheMan2605
my peak was/is just over 275 @3750rpm ish. Peak HP is 251 @ 5500rpm. Is quite hard to tell because of the scale, ill try and get my graphs uploaded at somepoint.I know for dam sure ill be getting her serviced before the next one, who knows there might be a cheeky de-cat and map involved.
Think the dirt on the outside held you back!
Either way, looks like you all had a great time on the first of many ESOC events.
At least nobody came away with a blown motor or any damage.
Ill just personally say a big thank you to Bean for organising the day and helping to ensure it all ran smoothly.
Well done guys,
At least nobody came away with a blown motor or any damage.
Ill just personally say a big thank you to Bean for organising the day and helping to ensure it all ran smoothly.
Well done guys,
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But all the scoobs had nice smooth curves.
The Silver hawk got a really good run for a standard car. 278bhp I believe
Also the type r civic surprised me
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Dacry..Originally Posted by Darc174
I didn't run mine But all the scoobs had nice smooth curves.
The Silver hawk got a really good run for a standard car. 278bhp I believe
Also the type r civic surprised me
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if i knew you was going with the type r, id have took the meg..
maybe on the next one fella..

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You have a great looking car Darc, nice mods too 6 Speed and Sti top mount Originally Posted by Darc174
I took mine si, was thinking about taking the type rDarc

Didnt fancy running yours?
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This was a previous dyno, before i bought the car

Yesterdays

AFR? graph

You ll see the previous one is 2bhp more than yesterdays and considering its been mapped and changed a bit something is afoot
Anyhow it seems my engine can rev over 8k
yeah seems they didnt set the rev right and as such the torque figures will be lower than they should be.Originally Posted by matttp1
Here goes This was a previous dyno, before i bought the car

Yesterdays

AFR? graph

You ll see the previous one is 2bhp more than yesterdays and considering its been mapped and changed a bit something is afoot
Anyhow it seems my engine can rev over 8k
Fans, strapping, environmental factors that are input (i cant see them clearly on the graphs) all play a key part in the DD results - they dont all produce the same results in shoot 44. Not knowing eurospec dynos I cant say whether high or low but it seems everyone was down. graph looks better on second run but happy to take another look at it for your matty if you are concerned
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Fans, strapping, environmental factors that are input (i cant see them clearly on the graphs) all play a key part in the DD results - they dont all produce the same results in shoot 44. Not knowing eurospec dynos I cant say whether high or low but it seems everyone was down.
Looking on google it appears pretty common that Eurospec's Dyno comes out a little low. Maybe that's an excuse for another Dyno day in early summer :POriginally Posted by dynamix
yeah seems they didnt set the rev right and as such the torque figures will be lower than they should be.Fans, strapping, environmental factors that are input (i cant see them clearly on the graphs) all play a key part in the DD results - they dont all produce the same results in shoot 44. Not knowing eurospec dynos I cant say whether high or low but it seems everyone was down.
Worth a call to Charlie @ Surrey Rolling Road.
Superb guy and well respected venue and dyno operator
Superb guy and well respected venue and dyno operator

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used their dyno when mapping a couple of subarus for them.
It reads lower than some..
clearly the gearing has not been entered correctly on Matt's P1, which will influence the rpm shown on the graph and the torque, power should be unaffected by that.
Simon
It reads lower than some..
clearly the gearing has not been entered correctly on Matt's P1, which will influence the rpm shown on the graph and the torque, power should be unaffected by that.
Simon
Instructing with fear
This is why I didn't bother with going to Eurospec RR day, if another day gets organised at a better place like srr I would be up for it

Simon, maybe you could be on hand if a day gets organised at SRR? 

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I will be up for another one to see if there is any difference in the results.
Bit off topic, any comments on my car as the "New Boy" would be apprciated.
Bit off topic, any comments on my car as the "New Boy" would be apprciated.
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Definitly possible Originally Posted by frayz
Simon, maybe you could be on hand if a day gets organised at SRR?

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The Civic was surprising and the supra was awesome
The Evo was good as well both was noisy as hell.
God meet and will not be my last, good crowd and thanks for the good welcome.
Mine did 248.3 bhp at 17psi, was expecting above 250 ish but not bad, bit iffy with the tourqe?
Here is my graph, I will be the first to take the abuse!!
Newage sti? Standard?Originally Posted by Inviroman
The Scooby with 278 was wider track with ppp wasn't it?The Civic was surprising and the supra was awesome

The Evo was good as well both was noisy as hell.
God meet and will not be my last, good crowd and thanks for the good welcome.
Mine did 248.3 bhp at 17psi, was expecting above 250 ish but not bad, bit iffy with the tourqe?
Here is my graph, I will be the first to take the abuse!!
Got the boost and afr graph?
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Bit off topic, any comments on my car as the "New Boy" would be apprciated.
YEH... shoulda bought a hawkeye!Originally Posted by Inviroman
I will be up for another one to see if there is any difference in the results. Bit off topic, any comments on my car as the "New Boy" would be apprciated.
haha na its sweet as it is mate.
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Fans, strapping, environmental factors that are input (i cant see them clearly on the graphs) all play a key part in the DD results - they dont all produce the same results in shoot 44. Not knowing eurospec dynos I cant say whether high or low but it seems everyone was down. graph looks better on second run but happy to take another look at it for your matty if you are concerned
Cheers DuncanOriginally Posted by dynamix
yeah seems they didnt set the rev right and as such the torque figures will be lower than they should be.Fans, strapping, environmental factors that are input (i cant see them clearly on the graphs) all play a key part in the DD results - they dont all produce the same results in shoot 44. Not knowing eurospec dynos I cant say whether high or low but it seems everyone was down. graph looks better on second run but happy to take another look at it for your matty if you are concerned
Im not overly bothered, it might have a tweak later on in the year. Its just strange how standard, aside from air filter and exhaust, in the first graph it came in 2 bhp higher than now, with a front mount new fuel pump remapped raising the boost, hey ho.
Many thanks to Al for arranging it and everyone who came to be deafened and frozen to death

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Thanks buddy
I was tempted to run but didn't feel to confident on there rollers
Also no DET CANS were worn
Darcy
I was tempted to run but didn't feel to confident on there rollers
Also no DET CANS were worn
Darcy
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tbh it isnt usual for dyno operators to wear det cans - it is only if you have a mapper present such as simon or me (or any of the other mappers on here) that they have them on.
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Bit off topic, any comments on my car as the "New Boy" would be apprciated.
I don't really know what this proves, means or shows, but below is a very rough overlay of your graph (bright red line) and mine (pale line). Originally Posted by Inviroman
Bit off topic, any comments on my car as the "New Boy" would be apprciated.
Very similar if not identical lines, just mine is a little above yours. Wonder if I actually had more power than you or it was just a difference in how they recorded our individual cars??
I have no idea about the history of my car, a 2005 Blob Eye but the only physical modification I am aware of is the Vortex Afterburner back box.

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Tbh I would prefer the DET cans on and would if thought its a safety thing that they would use I have seen a fair few RRs do it
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My ears still hurt from that evo, it was just far to loud.
I think Eurospec have a good enough set up compared to some 'tuners'.
I think Eurospec have a good enough set up compared to some 'tuners'.
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Did a Fiesta ST dyno day at Hayes Eng. in Erith and put my STi on at the end of the session and said they rig det cans for all turbo cars. They also provide AFR profile on all cars.Originally Posted by dynamix
tbh it isnt usual for dyno operators to wear det cans - it is only if you have a mapper present such as simon or me (or any of the other mappers on here) that they have them on.
I did suggest Hayes for this session but the one used seemed to be prefered

http://www.hayesdynotech.co.uk/
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Bit off topic, any comments on my car as the "New Boy" would be apprciated.
Ed mate , You have a nice example mate Originally Posted by Inviroman
I will be up for another one to see if there is any difference in the results. Bit off topic, any comments on my car as the "New Boy" would be apprciated.
With all the history you have with it , sounds like the car has been well looked after by it's previous owners , and well loved too


Plus what a bonus getting that number plate with it

Looking forward to seeing what mods you'll add to it in the future
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Was liking your car too Darc Originally Posted by Darc174
I took mine si, was thinking about taking the type rDarc
Would have liked to seen it on the rollers

But i was buzzing around you alot on the convoy down there thou

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Romford Boy ... It was good to meet ya fella
Hopefully see you at a few more events 
Darc ... was it your mate in the white classic ?? Had a baseball cap and his GF in the car, got talking to him at the end
Had to pull his tongue of my engine bay before i could leave 
Scott , it was good to finally meet in the end
Great pics on the pic thread 
Martin 2010 .. Was just loving how the flames from your exhaust was lighting up the dyno bay
Inviroman ... Respect mate for all your help
Big thanks to Al for organising this

Great day out mate , totally enjoyed

And to everyone else that i couldn't say hi to .... sorry ... Bloody nagging kids ! what else can i say

Darc ... was it your mate in the white classic ?? Had a baseball cap and his GF in the car, got talking to him at the end
Had to pull his tongue of my engine bay before i could leave 
Scott , it was good to finally meet in the end
Great pics on the pic thread Martin 2010 .. Was just loving how the flames from your exhaust was lighting up the dyno bay

Inviroman ... Respect mate for all your help
Big thanks to Al for organising this
Great day out mate , totally enjoyed

And to everyone else that i couldn't say hi to .... sorry ... Bloody nagging kids ! what else can i say

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My Dyno results .
Was expecting it to be between 200 and 210bhp and i would have been happy
Getting 222bhp , over the moon



Was expecting it to be between 200 and 210bhp and i would have been happy

Getting 222bhp , over the moon

