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Old 23 November 2012, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Matteeboy
Very similar car gets beaten by BMW. Again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xwecTp91-o

:l ol1:

Did you not read the rs4 vs ttrs thread.

The rs3 is ****, slow, cant handle, oh and its a fookin estate
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Originally Posted by TTRSTOOFAST4U
GTRs had issues with getting too hot and leaning out too much on vmax runs iirc? Not a issue for my car
They ran out of injector when they attempted to richen up after prolonged throttle. Changing the injectors fixes it, but it is port injection. I gather you have some headroom on the TTRS stock direct injection fuel system.

Can you full throttle shift the TTRS manual without damaging it?
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Originally Posted by john banks
They ran out of injector when they attempted to richen up after prolonged throttle. Changing the injectors fixes it, but it is port injection. I gather you have some headroom on the TTRS stock direct injection fuel system.

Can you full throttle shift the TTRS manual without damaging it?

Flat shifted at 30-130 back in 2011.

Yeah we have headroom, and when we run out, the upgrades are ready.

Why did it take the GTR guys so long to sort out uprated port injection?

Fairly straightforward to add on no?

P.S

We have ran a 2.0TSI to 700hp, then ran out of fuel. It does over 220mph
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Old 23 November 2012, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
They ran out of injector when they attempted to richen up after prolonged throttle. Changing the injectors fixes it, but it is port injection. I gather you have some headroom on the TTRS stock direct injection fuel system.

Can you full throttle shift the TTRS manual without damaging it?

This was due to stock turbos/hybrids pumping out too hot EGT's?

do the garret guys suffer the same?
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Originally Posted by LEO-RS
To be honest, Im a straight line pilot and not fussed on the way a car handles. 95% of my driving is up and down the Scottish autobahns, there are not many corners on them. I certainly never bought it for how quick it may lap a track or not. It's a safe handling car, some say dull, but for my needs it suits me.
See you are honest about the TTRS. No doubt its very quick and great VFM for the performance but their are limits and some decent journos simply don't like it - but with Evo for example, they didn't like the car as a whole but gave the engine their "engine of the year" award. Which can't be bad.

My Dad had three uR Quattros - the last a full Treser version. Pretty slow by todays standards but I will always like the five pot off beat warble.

I think Audi has been off the pace chassis wise for a very long time - R8 is great, RS4 pretty good but they've made too many shockers that are quick but overall, a bit cack. It would be nice to see them put the effort they put into their engines into their chassis dynamics.

If I was spending £40k on a car (having just blown a fair bit more on a van... ) I'd be looking at a nearly new 1M, a specced up M135i, a lightly used M3, a C63 AMG or a rather leggy 997 CS. Which is a shame because I used to love Audis and grew up loving the whole Quattro thing.

The TTRS is very quick, not bad VFM, very, very tuneable but like the GT-R, I desire one (or any Audi bar the lovely R8) about as much as I desire Jodie Marsh.

I guess Vboxes aren't very good at measuring that?
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Originally Posted by TTRSTOOFAST4U
Flat shifted at 30-130 back in 2011.

Yeah we have headroom, and when we run out, the upgrades are ready.

Why did it take the GTR guys so long to sort out uprated port injection?

Fairly straightforward to add on no?

P.S

We have ran a 2.0TSI to 700hp, then ran out of fuel. It does over 220mph
I think it took a few weeks of work on the ECU in 2009 to sort out injectors, it was one of the first things I looked at, but it took a little longer with this new ECU to work out the details of the enrichment that occurred on a timer (instead of EGT, there isn't a probe) which typically kicked in after 165mph and resulted in the intended AFR richening and then the injectors maxxing out, as a defence the ECU pulls injection on cylinders in a rotating basis in this situation, so you could setup a car and then find it misfired at very high speed unless you altered the enrichment or oversized the injectors. With properly sized turbos and appropriate cooling, and at high specific outputs using an appropriate octane to support the boost and compression ratio, EGTs aren't a problem.

With a presumed similar ECU in the 2.0 running 350 BHP/litre it sounds like you have all the ECU ready to roll? Did it run 350 BHP /litre just by changing standard tuning values listed in the DAMOS/a2l? Does it run nicely with no foibles, proper knock control, cruise control, everything working smoothly? Could the same be done with a DSG car?
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Originally Posted by TTRSTOOFAST4U
With a few mods.

Stage 1 TTRS s-tronic is as quick as a stock GTR.

1/4 mile in 11.4

Im stage 4
Are in a TTRS? Did it cost much to get to stage 4?
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Stage 1 as quick as a stock GTR? When you compare the best 1/4 mile ET of many DSG attempts like Mitchy posted, with a typical example of the 2009/10 model GTR which had a dumbed down launch, sure. When you compare the better figures from a 2011/12 model GTR, or when rolling, or at higher speed, or cornering, or lap times, no way.

When any TTRS does 7:16 Nurburgring I'd call it as quick as a stock GTR.
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The 2.0TSI had to run 4 extra port injectors as no one had spent the time to really develop anything serious for that engine. The main ecu was just piggybacked by the fuel ecu.

As for the TTRS it hasn't been straightforward, and not helped by Audi constantly changing their anti tuning algorithms. They also employ some strange and new strategies in their ecu's. Sounds like the GTR was a similiar story.
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wish you could slap people through a computer screen..

ill settle with squinting my eyes at it instead
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Originally Posted by john banks
Stage 1 as quick as a stock GTR? When you compare the best 1/4 mile ET of many DSG attempts like Mitchy posted, with a typical example of the 2009/10 model GTR which had a dumbed down launch, sure. When you compare the better figures from a 2011/12 model GTR, or when rolling, or at higher speed, or cornering, or lap times, no way.

When any TTRS does 7:16 Nurburgring I'd call it as quick as a stock GTR.

When a GTR driven by anyone other than Nissan does a 7 mins 16 I'll also admit its quicker.
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DSG cars can run big power but clutch packs as cooling will need upgrading.
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Originally Posted by MDS_WRX
Are in a TTRS? Did it cost much to get to stage 4?
Yeah
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Originally Posted by TTRSTOOFAST4U
Its called a job.

Something you jeremy kyle contestants havent grasped an understanding of yet. Its the taxes off my back which allows you to sit at home all day drinking white lightning, and dreamin up how you can mount more neons underneath your chav machine
Not sure i;ve ever actualy had white lightning, so can't comment im afraid.

so you not going to TOTB then?
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Not sure i;ve ever actualy had white lightning, so can't comment im afraid.

so you not going to TOTB then?
With the amount of people he has thrown insults at and rubbed up the wrong way, it would take some ***** for him to go to TOTB as im sure someone would return the favour in person
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Jeez, I didn't realise so many grown men are obsessed by the numbers their cars produce.

Buy a car you like/desire, drive it for a few years, enjoy it and then buy another one.

Spending every waking hour f8cking around with exhausts, injectors, turbos, c8ck links and blow job valves is just a waste of life. As is spending weekends trying to justify all this nonsense by racing other tw8ts on a drag strip.

Seriously, what a complete waste of time and effort.
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Originally Posted by TTRSTOOFAST4U
The 2.0TSI had to run 4 extra port injectors as no one had spent the time to really develop anything serious for that engine. The main ecu was just piggybacked by the fuel ecu.

As for the TTRS it hasn't been straightforward, and not helped by Audi constantly changing their anti tuning algorithms. They also employ some strange and new strategies in their ecu's. Sounds like the GTR was a similiar story.
So what power level will the TTRS go to (so far) running properly in manual or DSG form? By properly, I mean you wouldn't know it wasn't stock in terms of its manners until you used a large throttle opening on a daily driver and where it isn't needy requiring anything more than routine servicing?

Ding, some people like to tinker, it sounds like our friend has a talent for it so it is interesting at least for me to discuss. ****er off and read your BMJ instead

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I agree with Ding. Unless you actually run a car firm, spending most of your leisure time whacking off over cars is just pathetic. And I'd say that compared to anyone else I know, I have an unhealthy interest in them.

Get on a bike, run, surf, see people, explore, raise kids, whatever. Cars don't make you cool. Cars don't buy you a personality. Sure they are fun but come on, if they become your only focus, you're a goon.
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
Here's mine
Where's yours ?

Great launch, 60ft time is bang on
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Originally Posted by john banks
So what power level will the TTRS go to (so far) running properly in manual or DSG form? By properly, I mean you wouldn't know it wasn't stock in terms of its manners until you used a large throttle opening on a daily driver and where it isn't needy requiring anything more than routine servicing?

Ding, some people like to tinker, it sounds like our friend has a talent for it so it is interesting at least for me to discuss. ****er off and read your BMJ instead

Fair enough John
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I have just pulled out my BMJ Sarah Millican isn't putting me to sleep quickly enough, Guinness and BMJ will!
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TT RS KILLER

vs my 335i

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Originally Posted by TTRSTOOFAST4U
Flat shifted at 30-130 back in 2011.
This is the results for that day:

http://www.lancerregister.com/mlrspr...0110313&last=5

There is only one TT there, 30-130 in 14.26s ... was that you then? Slightly quicker than me on the day which is painful 170mph top speed run too

TX.
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Originally Posted by TTRSTOOFAST4U
When a GTR driven by anyone other than Nissan does a 7 mins 16 I'll also admit its quicker.
Well the ttrs was driven by Porsche's top test driver who pretty much knows the ring like the back of his hand, he could only get a 8.09 out of it, in comparison Subaru got that out of their 1997 car, Tommy Makkinen had 4-5 laps before getting a 7.55 out of a standard factory car on there with a fluffed gear change, so that's a car with less power but more responsive 2ltr engine doing the ring in 14 seconds quicker and a better top speed noted than a ttrs (btw anything under 8 mins is deemed super car territory )

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I see a Subaru is top of that board too
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Are in a TTRS? Did it cost much to get to stage 4?
Yeah
Nice, what does your husband drive?
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
This is the results for that day:

http://www.lancerregister.com/mlrspr...0110313&last=5

There is only one TT there, 30-130 in 14.26s ... was that you then? Slightly quicker than me on the day which is painful 170mph top speed run too

TX.


Yeah that was me, this year I went with the two 996 turbos and the brabus. Looking to go again next year.

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The 0-60 time of 3.5 seconds and 11.9 standing quarter are pretty impressive for a car that weighs in at a touch over 1500kgs.
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Well the ttrs was driven by Porsche's top test driver who pretty much knows the ring like the back of his hand, he could only get a 8.09 out of it, in comparison Subaru got that out of their 1997 car, Tommy Makkinen had 4-5 laps before getting a 7.55 out of a standard factory car on there with a fluffed gear change, so that's a car with less power but more responsive 2ltr engine doing the ring in 14 seconds quicker and a better top speed noted than a ttrs (btw anything under 8 mins is deemed super car territory )

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