£500/week benefit cap immoral!
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There is a problem with lack of jobs at the moment so why dont the council/government force the claimants to work for their benefits? Go round litter picking, cleaning off graffiti, charity shop work etc etc. Still pay them what they would get but give the country back something as well. This will also maintain or develop a working mentality that is often lost when claiming out of work habits are developed and make them more employable in the process. Everyone else can enjoy lower council tax rates as a result.
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There is a problem with lack of jobs at the moment so why dont the council/government force the claimants to work for their benefits? Go round litter picking, cleaning off graffiti, charity shop work etc etc. Still pay them what they would get but give the country back something as well. This will also maintain or develop a working mentality that is often lost when claiming out of work habits are developed and make them more employable in the process. Everyone else can enjoy lower council tax rates as a result.
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Why do people who live in central London with no job think that's it's acceptable to have children?
Then when they have children expect the taxpayer to pay for them to live in the capital at ludicrous rates!
I'm sorry if you want kids then get a job and move!
"My family all live around here!" So we are expected to pay for you to live close to your relies! WTF!!
When me and my wife started a family we both had jobs or wouldn't of considered it and also had our own house in an area we could afford (obviously I wanted to live closer to my family but you know what?....... we couldn't afford it!)
Why is what we have to work our asses off for is handed out to non achievers as a god given right! Really boils my ***!!
Then when they have children expect the taxpayer to pay for them to live in the capital at ludicrous rates!
I'm sorry if you want kids then get a job and move!
"My family all live around here!" So we are expected to pay for you to live close to your relies! WTF!!
When me and my wife started a family we both had jobs or wouldn't of considered it and also had our own house in an area we could afford (obviously I wanted to live closer to my family but you know what?....... we couldn't afford it!)
Why is what we have to work our asses off for is handed out to non achievers as a god given right! Really boils my ***!!
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Good point. Maybe it wont lower council tax but I don't know of any town that can say that it's as clean or as well presented as it could be. Those employed to do the work should carry on and perhaps supervise the benefit recipients. Get those who are receiving benefits to wear bright orange jacket (employees wear yellow) so that everyone else knows what they are doing, if they're ashamed it may give them a reality check and who knows they may realise that going out and getting a job may actually be more worth while.
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Dear Prime Minister The RT. Hon. David Cameron, MP.
I wish to ask you a Question:- "Is This True?"
I refer to the Pension Reality Check.
Are you aware of the following ?
The British Government provides the following financial assistance:-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
(bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and
National Insurance contributions to the British Government all their
working life)
Weekly allowance: £106.00?
MMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
(No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever)
Weekly allowance: £250.00
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £25.00?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £225.00
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £0.00?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £100.00
A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an illegal
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT: £29,900
THE FACTS ^^
Dear Prime Minister The RT. Hon. David Cameron, MP.
I wish to ask you a Question:- "Is This True?"
I refer to the Pension Reality Check.
Are you aware of the following ?
The British Government provides the following financial assistance:-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
(bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and
National Insurance contributions to the British Government all their
working life)
Weekly allowance: £106.00?
MMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
(No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever)
Weekly allowance: £250.00
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £25.00?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £225.00
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £0.00?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £100.00
A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an illegal
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT: £29,900
THE FACTS ^^
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One born every minute. Does the term "illegal immigrant" not give it away as being total bollocks a little bit?
And if you are a "legal immigrant" and find themselves out of work, do you think they have some form of special super immigrant benefit, or do you think they will go on JSA, just like everyone else?
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One born every minute. Does the term "illegal immigrant" not give it away as being total bollocks a little bit?
And if you are a "legal immigrant" and find themselves out of work, do you think they have some form of special super immigrant benefit, or do you think they will go on JSA, just like everyone else?
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Originally Posted by billythekid View Post
The most expensive house on our estate (£360k new) has a lady living in it, with 4 kids. She does not work, she is on "benefits". Her "husband" is "not living there" but his car (a 12 plate merc!!!) is parked outside every night.. hmm.
And you of course KNOW her husband isnt picking up the bills for her house and the car ?
Imagine how well off you,de be if you perhaps payed as much attention to YOUR life as you seem to do to hers ? ...... Or did she reject you?
The most expensive house on our estate (£360k new) has a lady living in it, with 4 kids. She does not work, she is on "benefits". Her "husband" is "not living there" but his car (a 12 plate merc!!!) is parked outside every night.. hmm.
And you of course KNOW her husband isnt picking up the bills for her house and the car ?
Imagine how well off you,de be if you perhaps payed as much attention to YOUR life as you seem to do to hers ? ...... Or did she reject you?
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1 , Illegal immigrants are by defintion invisible to the system, and therefore do not get any state benefits whatsoever.
2. Those claiming asylum are not allowed, by law, to work. They are required to live on state provision. There is no fixed sum. it can be as little as £5 per day.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/oc...s-cut-refugees
3. There is no such thing as a "weekly hardship allowance" for asylum seekers, nor do they get a "spouse" allowance. Pensioners do get a couple allowance.
Basic state pension here- of course this may be topped up with the addtional State pension/serps etc
https://www.gov.uk/state-pension
4. If you are a "legal" immigrant. Then you work and pay into the system just like everyone else.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by billythekid View Post
The most expensive house on our estate (£360k new) has a lady living in it, with 4 kids. She does not work, she is on "benefits". Her "husband" is "not living there" but his car (a 12 plate merc!!!) is parked outside every night.. hmm.
Have you reported them?
Just out of curiosity have they lived there long ?
I mean there must have been a father at sometime ? Perhaps one of our noble troops that lost his life serving our country in Afghanistan or Iraq maybe ?...............Still that doesnt matter ......any woman with kids that has the dasterdly cheek to expect the country that her husband and childrens father gave his life for to expect some kind (of meager) support for his kids should be what ? Ridiculed? Put to death? You choose !
Originally Posted by billythekid View Post
The most expensive house on our estate (£360k new) has a lady living in it, with 4 kids. She does not work, she is on "benefits". Her "husband" is "not living there" but his car (a 12 plate merc!!!) is parked outside every night.. hmm.
Have you reported them?
Just out of curiosity have they lived there long ?
I mean there must have been a father at sometime ? Perhaps one of our noble troops that lost his life serving our country in Afghanistan or Iraq maybe ?...............Still that doesnt matter ......any woman with kids that has the dasterdly cheek to expect the country that her husband and childrens father gave his life for to expect some kind (of meager) support for his kids should be what ? Ridiculed? Put to death? You choose !
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Dear Prime Minister The RT. Hon. David Cameron, MP.
I wish to ask you a Question:- "Is This True?"
I refer to the Pension Reality Check.
Are you aware of the following ?
The British Government provides the following financial assistance:-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
(bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and
National Insurance contributions to the British Government all their
working life)
Weekly allowance: £106.00?
MMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
(No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever)
Weekly allowance: £250.00
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £25.00?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £225.00
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £0.00?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £100.00
A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an illegal
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT: £29,900
THE FACTS ^^
Dear Prime Minister The RT. Hon. David Cameron, MP.
I wish to ask you a Question:- "Is This True?"
I refer to the Pension Reality Check.
Are you aware of the following ?
The British Government provides the following financial assistance:-
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
(bearing in mind they worked hard and paid their Income Tax and
National Insurance contributions to the British Government all their
working life)
Weekly allowance: £106.00?
MMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
(No Income Tax and National Insurance contribution whatsoever)
Weekly allowance: £250.00
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £25.00?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Weekly Spouse Allowance: £225.00
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £0.00?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
Additional Weekly Hardship Allowance: £100.00
A British old age pensioner is no less hard up than an illegal
immigrant/refugee yet receives nothing
BRITISH OLD AGED PENSIONER
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT £6,000?
ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS/REFUGEES LIVING IN BRITAIN
TOTAL YEARLY BENEFIT: £29,900
THE FACTS ^^
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