What constitutes Alcoholism?
I work on the assumption that alcohol is wonderful, magical stuff, those first two beers are heavenly, however the magic cannot be forced. more isn't better, less is more and there is always an equal and opposite effect, in how you feel, health, weight, relationships, sex, money and happiness.
You don't need to drink every night, you are forcing the magic, you are numbing the joy, drink 2 nights per week and don't saturate your system, five beers is enough for anyone, ten is just storing up more agro for later, i.e. know when to stop.
If you drink too much the doctor notices, as does your partner and you have to stop, you become a social pariah, avoid this situation by drinking less as if you get tagged as an alcy then people get all cagey about offering you a glass of Pimms.
Have healthy, non alcohol nights, ready your system and tastebuds for beer, it works better if you dont drink every night, remember that if you drink every night and feel crap then it is probably the booze, your life will not end because you dont have a drink, you can still have fun when sober, in fact sometimes being sober is the best policy.
Take it easy, dont spoil the magic !
You don't need to drink every night, you are forcing the magic, you are numbing the joy, drink 2 nights per week and don't saturate your system, five beers is enough for anyone, ten is just storing up more agro for later, i.e. know when to stop.
If you drink too much the doctor notices, as does your partner and you have to stop, you become a social pariah, avoid this situation by drinking less as if you get tagged as an alcy then people get all cagey about offering you a glass of Pimms.
Have healthy, non alcohol nights, ready your system and tastebuds for beer, it works better if you dont drink every night, remember that if you drink every night and feel crap then it is probably the booze, your life will not end because you dont have a drink, you can still have fun when sober, in fact sometimes being sober is the best policy.
Take it easy, dont spoil the magic !
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I'll tell you what alcoholism means to me. Please excuse the long post.
My partner is an alcoholic. She has advanced liver disease (I can't spell cirrhosis).
October 12th last year, she went into hospital to have her ascitic fluid drained. She hadn't had a drink for almost two weeks, but she was very bloated with fluid. While she was waiting for a bed, blood vessels ruptured in her oesophagus. Her blood was pumping straight into her stomach. She started to repeatedly vomit up thick black gunge (blood mixed with stomach acid). The medical staff realised what was happening and immediately put her on a "whole blood" transfusion, and also emergency surgery to stem the flow of blood. (She would have died in under half an hour if this had happened at home). The following day, due to the sudden loss of blood, her kidneys shut down. Then her lungs filled up with fluid, and her heart started failing. She was experiencing total organ failure. Her family and I were called in to say goodbye to her. It was one of the saddest things I ever had to do. She had only a few hours at most we were told. However, she was far too stubborn to die. I stayed by her bed for 17 hours, until I was told her condition had improved very slightly. Anyway, three weeks later, she was discharged.
I thought she'd learned her lesson and wouldn't drink again. I tried to make sure of this by spending a lot more time with her. However, she would sneak drink into the house every chance she had. She would also pick arguments with me to try and force me to leave, saying she needs her own space. Needless to say she'd go back to her usual routine. In August we were on holiday in Malta. From the outset, it was obvious she had an intense craving for drink. I'd had enough of her lies and deceit by this time and I wasn't going to let her ruin my holiday. So I just let her do what she wanted (she'd stay in the hotel room and get drunk). I should mention she becomes an angry and bitter woman with a drink in her. One night, I went out for a walk to get away from her for a while. When I arrived back, there was blood on the floor and walls. She'd cut her foot on a broken bottle. Then I noticed she had marks on her back and arms. It was then the receptionist called to inform me the police were at reception and wanted to speak to me. It seems she was found lying on the street outside the hotel unable to get up. The police found her, and brought her back to the room.and rather than admit to being drunk and falling down, she told them I had beaten her up. Anyway her injuries were consistent with a fall so they didn't believe her lies. and it was cleared up with no action taken. After sobering up, we enjoyed the last couple of days of our holiday.
So, we get back home and everything is fine for a few weeks until the craving for drink takes over again. She kicks me out the house and is free to drink what she likes. I try to keep in touch by phone and email, but she refuses to answer. I know there's no point in going over to her house because unless she's sober, she won't answer the door. She keeps her key in the lock from the inside, so I can't use my key to get in.
Five days went by with no contact from her, so I go over. As usual, there's no answer. I noticed her key was vertical in the lock, so I was able to push it through with my key and open the door. That was when I found her lying on the bedroom floor unconscious. There was also a strong smell of urine as she wasn't able to go to the toilet. I counted the empty bottles. She had consumed six 1ltr bottles of vodka and three 3ltr bottles of white cider in the space of five days. So that was another trip to hospital where she is currently.
I've found drink hidden all over the house. I've stayed with her and not let her out of my sight. I've went round all the off licensed shops with her photo, and pleaded with them not to serve her. I've done everything I can possibly think of to keep the drink away from her. I've even locked her in the house with only the back door open (no street access) if I need to go shopping etc. She would phone for a taxi to pick up drink and she's pay for it through the window. There are so many ways when you're determined enough.You have no idea how devious an alcoholic can be. I've often wondered why I stick around. I reckon its because I couldn't have it on my conscience that I could have prevented her death but didn't. I seriously don't believe she'll be alive for much longer, if she continues like this. She totally refuses to believe she needs psychiatric help.
On a lighter note, I've found the best winter screenwash for your car is a bottle of vodka.
My partner is an alcoholic. She has advanced liver disease (I can't spell cirrhosis).
October 12th last year, she went into hospital to have her ascitic fluid drained. She hadn't had a drink for almost two weeks, but she was very bloated with fluid. While she was waiting for a bed, blood vessels ruptured in her oesophagus. Her blood was pumping straight into her stomach. She started to repeatedly vomit up thick black gunge (blood mixed with stomach acid). The medical staff realised what was happening and immediately put her on a "whole blood" transfusion, and also emergency surgery to stem the flow of blood. (She would have died in under half an hour if this had happened at home). The following day, due to the sudden loss of blood, her kidneys shut down. Then her lungs filled up with fluid, and her heart started failing. She was experiencing total organ failure. Her family and I were called in to say goodbye to her. It was one of the saddest things I ever had to do. She had only a few hours at most we were told. However, she was far too stubborn to die. I stayed by her bed for 17 hours, until I was told her condition had improved very slightly. Anyway, three weeks later, she was discharged.
I thought she'd learned her lesson and wouldn't drink again. I tried to make sure of this by spending a lot more time with her. However, she would sneak drink into the house every chance she had. She would also pick arguments with me to try and force me to leave, saying she needs her own space. Needless to say she'd go back to her usual routine. In August we were on holiday in Malta. From the outset, it was obvious she had an intense craving for drink. I'd had enough of her lies and deceit by this time and I wasn't going to let her ruin my holiday. So I just let her do what she wanted (she'd stay in the hotel room and get drunk). I should mention she becomes an angry and bitter woman with a drink in her. One night, I went out for a walk to get away from her for a while. When I arrived back, there was blood on the floor and walls. She'd cut her foot on a broken bottle. Then I noticed she had marks on her back and arms. It was then the receptionist called to inform me the police were at reception and wanted to speak to me. It seems she was found lying on the street outside the hotel unable to get up. The police found her, and brought her back to the room.and rather than admit to being drunk and falling down, she told them I had beaten her up. Anyway her injuries were consistent with a fall so they didn't believe her lies. and it was cleared up with no action taken. After sobering up, we enjoyed the last couple of days of our holiday.
So, we get back home and everything is fine for a few weeks until the craving for drink takes over again. She kicks me out the house and is free to drink what she likes. I try to keep in touch by phone and email, but she refuses to answer. I know there's no point in going over to her house because unless she's sober, she won't answer the door. She keeps her key in the lock from the inside, so I can't use my key to get in.
Five days went by with no contact from her, so I go over. As usual, there's no answer. I noticed her key was vertical in the lock, so I was able to push it through with my key and open the door. That was when I found her lying on the bedroom floor unconscious. There was also a strong smell of urine as she wasn't able to go to the toilet. I counted the empty bottles. She had consumed six 1ltr bottles of vodka and three 3ltr bottles of white cider in the space of five days. So that was another trip to hospital where she is currently.
I've found drink hidden all over the house. I've stayed with her and not let her out of my sight. I've went round all the off licensed shops with her photo, and pleaded with them not to serve her. I've done everything I can possibly think of to keep the drink away from her. I've even locked her in the house with only the back door open (no street access) if I need to go shopping etc. She would phone for a taxi to pick up drink and she's pay for it through the window. There are so many ways when you're determined enough.You have no idea how devious an alcoholic can be. I've often wondered why I stick around. I reckon its because I couldn't have it on my conscience that I could have prevented her death but didn't. I seriously don't believe she'll be alive for much longer, if she continues like this. She totally refuses to believe she needs psychiatric help.
On a lighter note, I've found the best winter screenwash for your car is a bottle of vodka.
Wow.
You have my upmost respect. It winds me up even more when you get those boasting about what quantity their body can hold and the damage it's doing to them.
I hav friends who's fathers are alcoholics and due to that my friends don't really drink but thier fathers drink bottle after bottle of white lightning as its cheap and very strong. They drink all day every day! and borrow money to buy more drink if they don't have any.
Drinking a few cans a night isn't really an acoholic but thats not saying it can't develop into more.
Drinking a few cans a night isn't really an acoholic but thats not saying it can't develop into more.
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I generally have about 4 cans of lager each evening, not always but generally. Fridays and Saturdays I do have at very minimum 10 pints of lager and let myself go. Ive always said I have a drinking problem in the sense that after 5 or 6 beers I wont stop drinking, no matter how drunk I get I just carry on til someone puts me in a taxi. Im certainly not proud of it but thats the effect alcohol has on me.
I seem to feel bored if Im sat at home for example without a drink, bit like how people say when theyre bored they eat.... Thats me but with alcohol. I have 2 cans left in the fridge, when theyre gone I will go to bed because its the only thing making me not want another that I cant have. I dont keep alcohol in the house because I will drink it, the only time its here is when I know Im going to consume it that night/weekend.
Horrid story to hear on the previous page about the chaps wife. You wont be able to help her Im afraid. When her time is up, you may feel guilt free (as opposed to if you left her) but you will probably still feel harrowed from the experience of watching her die to the very last moment.
As STiWS says, if she had the respect and love for you she would have done what she can to put this right but its not going to happen, sounds like another lost soul Im afraid. Kudos to you though for going through what you have and sticking by her, I commend you.
I dont know the answer to the question by the way. I sometimes feel I might be borderline but managed to keep in check for the last few years without upping my consumption. I feel aslong as my responsibilities are looked after (paying bills etc) then I will live my life care free.
I seem to feel bored if Im sat at home for example without a drink, bit like how people say when theyre bored they eat.... Thats me but with alcohol. I have 2 cans left in the fridge, when theyre gone I will go to bed because its the only thing making me not want another that I cant have. I dont keep alcohol in the house because I will drink it, the only time its here is when I know Im going to consume it that night/weekend.
Horrid story to hear on the previous page about the chaps wife. You wont be able to help her Im afraid. When her time is up, you may feel guilt free (as opposed to if you left her) but you will probably still feel harrowed from the experience of watching her die to the very last moment.
As STiWS says, if she had the respect and love for you she would have done what she can to put this right but its not going to happen, sounds like another lost soul Im afraid. Kudos to you though for going through what you have and sticking by her, I commend you.
I dont know the answer to the question by the way. I sometimes feel I might be borderline but managed to keep in check for the last few years without upping my consumption. I feel aslong as my responsibilities are looked after (paying bills etc) then I will live my life care free.
She was an alcoholic before I met her, but she wasn't drinking. I got to know the sober version long before I knew the alcoholic.
I have wanted to walk away many times. If I left her, I know she'd drink herself into her coffin. For me it would be just the same as killing her. My conscience doesn't allow me to let her die like that. She's an absolutely wonderful person when sober. She doesn't want to drink. I reckon its a mental condition that forces her to do it.
I have a couple of bottles of beer or 3/4 1 finger wiskeys per night, very rarely get drunk, but for me drunk is maybe 4 pints of beer and i'm done.
I make a point of never drinking in the day unless on holiday or a bbq.
I watched one of my best mates become an alki and have another that is very close to being one, for me the point at which it became noticable was when he started taking the "hair of the dog" hence my no daytime drinking rule, i also make sure i don't drink for a couple of days every so often just to be sure i'm in control and that i can, i was in india for 7 weeks and only had the odd beer so i recon i'm ok.
One thing for sure is it's not nice watching you best mate drink half a bottle of jack within an hour of waking up just to keep the shakes at bay, has a way of making sure you control your own consumption.
I make a point of never drinking in the day unless on holiday or a bbq.
I watched one of my best mates become an alki and have another that is very close to being one, for me the point at which it became noticable was when he started taking the "hair of the dog" hence my no daytime drinking rule, i also make sure i don't drink for a couple of days every so often just to be sure i'm in control and that i can, i was in india for 7 weeks and only had the odd beer so i recon i'm ok.
One thing for sure is it's not nice watching you best mate drink half a bottle of jack within an hour of waking up just to keep the shakes at bay, has a way of making sure you control your own consumption.
I hav friends who's fathers are alcoholics and due to that my friends don't really drink but thier fathers drink bottle after bottle of white lightning as its cheap and very strong. They drink all day every day! and borrow money to buy more drink if they don't have any.
Drinking a few cans a night isn't really an acoholic but thats not saying it can't develop into more.
Drinking a few cans a night isn't really an acoholic but thats not saying it can't develop into more.
Chip would you say they are alchoholics? physically dependat on alcohol?
as with many things, continual exposure can build a tolerance, so a huge amount to someone may be normal for others - and its effects on health will vary depending on genetics also
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I generally have about 4 cans of lager each evening, not always but generally. Fridays and Saturdays I do have at very minimum 10 pints of lager and let myself go. Ive always said I have a drinking problem in the sense that after 5 or 6 beers I wont stop drinking, no matter how drunk I get I just carry on til someone puts me in a taxi. Im certainly not proud of it but thats the effect alcohol has on me.
I seem to feel bored if Im sat at home for example without a drink, bit like how people say when theyre bored they eat.... Thats me but with alcohol. I have 2 cans left in the fridge, when theyre gone I will go to bed because its the only thing making me not want another that I cant have. I dont keep alcohol in the house because I will drink it, the only time its here is when I know Im going to consume it that night/weekend.
Horrid story to hear on the previous page about the chaps wife. You wont be able to help her Im afraid. When her time is up, you may feel guilt free (as opposed to if you left her) but you will probably still feel harrowed from the experience of watching her die to the very last moment.
As STiWS says, if she had the respect and love for you she would have done what she can to put this right but its not going to happen, sounds like another lost soul Im afraid. Kudos to you though for going through what you have and sticking by her, I commend you.
I dont know the answer to the question by the way. I sometimes feel I might be borderline but managed to keep in check for the last few years without upping my consumption. I feel aslong as my responsibilities are looked after (paying bills etc) then I will live my life care free.
I seem to feel bored if Im sat at home for example without a drink, bit like how people say when theyre bored they eat.... Thats me but with alcohol. I have 2 cans left in the fridge, when theyre gone I will go to bed because its the only thing making me not want another that I cant have. I dont keep alcohol in the house because I will drink it, the only time its here is when I know Im going to consume it that night/weekend.
Horrid story to hear on the previous page about the chaps wife. You wont be able to help her Im afraid. When her time is up, you may feel guilt free (as opposed to if you left her) but you will probably still feel harrowed from the experience of watching her die to the very last moment.
As STiWS says, if she had the respect and love for you she would have done what she can to put this right but its not going to happen, sounds like another lost soul Im afraid. Kudos to you though for going through what you have and sticking by her, I commend you.
I dont know the answer to the question by the way. I sometimes feel I might be borderline but managed to keep in check for the last few years without upping my consumption. I feel aslong as my responsibilities are looked after (paying bills etc) then I will live my life care free.
some drink, some excersise, some eat, some work excessivley, or chase extreme sports.
yes drinking can be an unhealthy habit, but depending on your genetic luck, some decisions have already been made for you to an extent. i value happiness very high on my list of lifes priorities, and i find humour and laughter especially important in providing happiness.and in my youth a lot of it was through alcohol and good friends.
with a family now, alcohol plays a less important role for me, but still is used.
id really hate for alcohol to overcome my life though and risk loosing everything thats important to me - i feel for those that are in or have been in that situation.
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Thats very true, I'd like to think if I had a family I wouldn't even bother with a drink. Its different when you have people dependant on you such as children, I guess its just about being responsible. I live on my own and therefore dont really worry about such things
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You drink a lot, Dave, by anyone's standards. If you went for a medical you'd be out of the red zone and requiring another colour. Trust me, as you get older you lose your sense of invincibility. Moderate your drinking before you're unable to do anything about it.
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"Scunnered's" story is horrendous and a warning if ever I heard one.
Respect mate.
The first time I encountered a true alcoholic was forty years ago, when I was doing evening bar work. That sounds daft, but none were like this guy.
He used to arrive at around 7pm. He'd nurse a pint all night, just taking sips. At around 10.30 he'd start on the whisky, a single at first, then doubles. He knocked back one after another until closing time, then he'd leave. It was as though he just couldn't face the night without a skinful, but really didn't like getting drunk in the pub, leaving it until the last minute to stock up.
Truly sad.
Respect mate.
The first time I encountered a true alcoholic was forty years ago, when I was doing evening bar work. That sounds daft, but none were like this guy.
He used to arrive at around 7pm. He'd nurse a pint all night, just taking sips. At around 10.30 he'd start on the whisky, a single at first, then doubles. He knocked back one after another until closing time, then he'd leave. It was as though he just couldn't face the night without a skinful, but really didn't like getting drunk in the pub, leaving it until the last minute to stock up.
Truly sad.
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I'll tell you what alcoholism means to me. Please excuse the long post.
My partner is an alcoholic. She has advanced liver disease (I can't spell cirrhosis).
October 12th last year, she went into hospital to have her ascitic fluid drained. She hadn't had a drink for almost two weeks, but she was very bloated with fluid. While she was waiting for a bed, blood vessels ruptured in her oesophagus. Her blood was pumping straight into her stomach. She started to repeatedly vomit up thick black gunge (blood mixed with stomach acid). The medical staff realised what was happening and immediately put her on a "whole blood" transfusion, and also emergency surgery to stem the flow of blood. (She would have died in under half an hour if this had happened at home). The following day, due to the sudden loss of blood, her kidneys shut down. Then her lungs filled up with fluid, and her heart started failing. She was experiencing total organ failure. Her family and I were called in to say goodbye to her. It was one of the saddest things I ever had to do. She had only a few hours at most we were told. However, she was far too stubborn to die. I stayed by her bed for 17 hours, until I was told her condition had improved very slightly. Anyway, three weeks later, she was discharged.
I thought she'd learned her lesson and wouldn't drink again. I tried to make sure of this by spending a lot more time with her. However, she would sneak drink into the house every chance she had. She would also pick arguments with me to try and force me to leave, saying she needs her own space. Needless to say she'd go back to her usual routine. In August we were on holiday in Malta. From the outset, it was obvious she had an intense craving for drink. I'd had enough of her lies and deceit by this time and I wasn't going to let her ruin my holiday. So I just let her do what she wanted (she'd stay in the hotel room and get drunk). I should mention she becomes an angry and bitter woman with a drink in her. One night, I went out for a walk to get away from her for a while. When I arrived back, there was blood on the floor and walls. She'd cut her foot on a broken bottle. Then I noticed she had marks on her back and arms. It was then the receptionist called to inform me the police were at reception and wanted to speak to me. It seems she was found lying on the street outside the hotel unable to get up. The police found her, and brought her back to the room.and rather than admit to being drunk and falling down, she told them I had beaten her up. Anyway her injuries were consistent with a fall so they didn't believe her lies. and it was cleared up with no action taken. After sobering up, we enjoyed the last couple of days of our holiday.
So, we get back home and everything is fine for a few weeks until the craving for drink takes over again. She kicks me out the house and is free to drink what she likes. I try to keep in touch by phone and email, but she refuses to answer. I know there's no point in going over to her house because unless she's sober, she won't answer the door. She keeps her key in the lock from the inside, so I can't use my key to get in.
Five days went by with no contact from her, so I go over. As usual, there's no answer. I noticed her key was vertical in the lock, so I was able to push it through with my key and open the door. That was when I found her lying on the bedroom floor unconscious. There was also a strong smell of urine as she wasn't able to go to the toilet. I counted the empty bottles. She had consumed six 1ltr bottles of vodka and three 3ltr bottles of white cider in the space of five days. So that was another trip to hospital where she is currently.
I've found drink hidden all over the house. I've stayed with her and not let her out of my sight. I've went round all the off licensed shops with her photo, and pleaded with them not to serve her. I've done everything I can possibly think of to keep the drink away from her. I've even locked her in the house with only the back door open (no street access) if I need to go shopping etc. She would phone for a taxi to pick up drink and she's pay for it through the window. There are so many ways when you're determined enough.You have no idea how devious an alcoholic can be. I've often wondered why I stick around. I reckon its because I couldn't have it on my conscience that I could have prevented her death but didn't. I seriously don't believe she'll be alive for much longer, if she continues like this. She totally refuses to believe she needs psychiatric help.
On a lighter note, I've found the best winter screenwash for your car is a bottle of vodka.
My partner is an alcoholic. She has advanced liver disease (I can't spell cirrhosis).
October 12th last year, she went into hospital to have her ascitic fluid drained. She hadn't had a drink for almost two weeks, but she was very bloated with fluid. While she was waiting for a bed, blood vessels ruptured in her oesophagus. Her blood was pumping straight into her stomach. She started to repeatedly vomit up thick black gunge (blood mixed with stomach acid). The medical staff realised what was happening and immediately put her on a "whole blood" transfusion, and also emergency surgery to stem the flow of blood. (She would have died in under half an hour if this had happened at home). The following day, due to the sudden loss of blood, her kidneys shut down. Then her lungs filled up with fluid, and her heart started failing. She was experiencing total organ failure. Her family and I were called in to say goodbye to her. It was one of the saddest things I ever had to do. She had only a few hours at most we were told. However, she was far too stubborn to die. I stayed by her bed for 17 hours, until I was told her condition had improved very slightly. Anyway, three weeks later, she was discharged.
I thought she'd learned her lesson and wouldn't drink again. I tried to make sure of this by spending a lot more time with her. However, she would sneak drink into the house every chance she had. She would also pick arguments with me to try and force me to leave, saying she needs her own space. Needless to say she'd go back to her usual routine. In August we were on holiday in Malta. From the outset, it was obvious she had an intense craving for drink. I'd had enough of her lies and deceit by this time and I wasn't going to let her ruin my holiday. So I just let her do what she wanted (she'd stay in the hotel room and get drunk). I should mention she becomes an angry and bitter woman with a drink in her. One night, I went out for a walk to get away from her for a while. When I arrived back, there was blood on the floor and walls. She'd cut her foot on a broken bottle. Then I noticed she had marks on her back and arms. It was then the receptionist called to inform me the police were at reception and wanted to speak to me. It seems she was found lying on the street outside the hotel unable to get up. The police found her, and brought her back to the room.and rather than admit to being drunk and falling down, she told them I had beaten her up. Anyway her injuries were consistent with a fall so they didn't believe her lies. and it was cleared up with no action taken. After sobering up, we enjoyed the last couple of days of our holiday.
So, we get back home and everything is fine for a few weeks until the craving for drink takes over again. She kicks me out the house and is free to drink what she likes. I try to keep in touch by phone and email, but she refuses to answer. I know there's no point in going over to her house because unless she's sober, she won't answer the door. She keeps her key in the lock from the inside, so I can't use my key to get in.
Five days went by with no contact from her, so I go over. As usual, there's no answer. I noticed her key was vertical in the lock, so I was able to push it through with my key and open the door. That was when I found her lying on the bedroom floor unconscious. There was also a strong smell of urine as she wasn't able to go to the toilet. I counted the empty bottles. She had consumed six 1ltr bottles of vodka and three 3ltr bottles of white cider in the space of five days. So that was another trip to hospital where she is currently.
I've found drink hidden all over the house. I've stayed with her and not let her out of my sight. I've went round all the off licensed shops with her photo, and pleaded with them not to serve her. I've done everything I can possibly think of to keep the drink away from her. I've even locked her in the house with only the back door open (no street access) if I need to go shopping etc. She would phone for a taxi to pick up drink and she's pay for it through the window. There are so many ways when you're determined enough.You have no idea how devious an alcoholic can be. I've often wondered why I stick around. I reckon its because I couldn't have it on my conscience that I could have prevented her death but didn't. I seriously don't believe she'll be alive for much longer, if she continues like this. She totally refuses to believe she needs psychiatric help.
On a lighter note, I've found the best winter screenwash for your car is a bottle of vodka.
I'm glad she's dead and he is finally free of the woman that screwed up not only his life, but the life of her 3 children. One of which had to suffer while she necked 3 bottles of wine a night while pregnant.
She also wrote his car off twice while drunk and eventually got banned for 3 years for drink driving.
If anyone ever even thinks of partnering up with a proper alchoholic, thinking that they will change, then don't. Run for the feckin hills because there's only one thing they really care about and it ain't you.
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Tel, I would agree I drink more than most come weekends and go far and beyond what I should, that's a given. My midweek drinking is pretty tame imo. I know it probably is doing some damage, you cant see it or feel it but if I stopped drinking which I kind of enjoy (just like any smoker enjoys smoking) who's to say I wont get knocked down by a bus tomorrow? As long as my drinking isnt hurting those around me then I dont see why I should worry. Or is that being blinkered? No point dying at a ripe old age with a healthy body.
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If you drink a lot and aint fat then you are probably alcoholic.
Fat drinkers are generally on the beer - thin ones are on the hard stuff.
Martin - you need to stop drinking during the week - and If you can't do that - you need to stop drinking all together !
Fat drinkers are generally on the beer - thin ones are on the hard stuff.
Martin - you need to stop drinking during the week - and If you can't do that - you need to stop drinking all together !
why would you think that btw?
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I've also met lots of fat pissheads - none of whom have been alcoholics.
Maybe a Doctor can confirm my "Theory".
yes - maybe a doctor could confirm that.
just depends on your interpretation of an alcohlic i suppose, given that the defination is subjective to a persoanl opinion.
that MP a while back that admitted to being an alcoholic wasnt exactly stick thin - cant remeber his name but a ginger haired scot IIRC
just depends on your interpretation of an alcohlic i suppose, given that the defination is subjective to a persoanl opinion.
that MP a while back that admitted to being an alcoholic wasnt exactly stick thin - cant remeber his name but a ginger haired scot IIRC
yes - maybe a doctor could confirm that.
just depends on your interpretation of an alcohlic i suppose, given that the defination is subjective to a persoanl opinion.
that MP a while back that admitted to being an alcoholic wasnt exactly stick thin - cant remeber his name but a ginger haired scot IIRC
just depends on your interpretation of an alcohlic i suppose, given that the defination is subjective to a persoanl opinion.
that MP a while back that admitted to being an alcoholic wasnt exactly stick thin - cant remeber his name but a ginger haired scot IIRC
Maybe a bit of a generalization, but your stick-thin alcoholics tend to be the types who can't afford booze and food, whereas the portlier types can.
half decent explanation on alcoholism, wit a refferance to malnutrition - (implying a tendancy towards a loss in body weight) but by no means conclusive. the emphasis is on genetic pre-dispositions and enviromental influences affecting the persons susceptability.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedic...com/alcoholism
so maybe your half right on "alky's" being thin, but id say thats evident only in later stages of severe abuse.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedic...com/alcoholism
so maybe your half right on "alky's" being thin, but id say thats evident only in later stages of severe abuse.
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From: Scotchland
half decent explanation on alcoholism, wit a refferance to malnutrition - (implying a tendancy towards a loss in body weight) but by no means conclusive. the emphasis is on genetic pre-dispositions and enviromental influences affecting the persons susceptability.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedic...com/alcoholism
so maybe your half right on "alky's" being thin, but id say thats evident only in later stages of severe abuse.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedic...com/alcoholism
so maybe your half right on "alky's" being thin, but id say thats evident only in later stages of severe abuse.
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Some of the end stage alcoholics I've treated are indeed very thin and malnourished, but not all.
I think my main comment is that many are in the earlier stages where they could do something about it but don't realise how dangerous their level of drinking potentially is to them as many consider alcoholism as normal and like smoking rationalise their intake as not being harmful because Mrs Biggins lived until 96 but had a packet of **** or a bottle of vodka a day.
I think my main comment is that many are in the earlier stages where they could do something about it but don't realise how dangerous their level of drinking potentially is to them as many consider alcoholism as normal and like smoking rationalise their intake as not being harmful because Mrs Biggins lived until 96 but had a packet of **** or a bottle of vodka a day.
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I used to drink between 10 and 15 bottles of Stella every night ( more at weekends), I never felt really drunk, never had a hangover and never considered it to be too much, our lass didn't think the same and would constantly ask me to calm down as she thought I wasn't in control, so we had a deal, she could say at any time that I was to stop for a certain period of time, our agreement was anything up to two weeks. If she suddenly said "no drink for 9 days" then I wouldn't touch it for 9 days. It was only after a doing this for a while that I realised just how much money I was wasting, so just stopped in the week and now 24 bottles lasts me all weekend 
**** me that's still a lot dude!
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Mmmm. I have to say that I thought I was bordering on being an alcoholic but reading this thread, probably not 
I do not drink socially, just at home and probably 3-4 cans or bottles a night. I do not and have not got drunk and hold done a very good job. BUT I feel that it is a habit and it is difficult to break, which is really the definition of addiction.
I do not drink socially, just at home and probably 3-4 cans or bottles a night. I do not and have not got drunk and hold done a very good job. BUT I feel that it is a habit and it is difficult to break, which is really the definition of addiction.