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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:22 PM
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Then it will hold it's value for you .....
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by vava voom
HAHA you have no idea how far you are from the truth....it was px'ed against his Volvo C30 Diesel and if i said Miss Daisey would beat him in a race then that would be about right
you have no idea what I said

I went off your post, went and read the advert and I said it put me off

now you're saying the bidder hasn't come forward

im out

it might be a good motor, you just dont sell it me
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:28 PM
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no one wants the 2.5 IMO too much to tax and weak engine compared to the 2.0
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:28 PM
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When was the last time a Flywheel failed? Never, as far as I have heard about.
Really?,
Dual mass flywheel failure is extremely widespread.

Just Google 'flwheel failure' you will get nearly 2 million results.!
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:30 PM
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I'll fix it myself ........ it's only an engine!
So you can make injectors then can you pete ?
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Old Oct 14, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by prodriverules
So you can make injectors then can you pete ?
If I can't fix them (which I probably can .... I have access to the finest of Engineering Facilities in the world!) - I shall buy another, there's only 4!

In fact, I could get some made!!
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 07:27 AM
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Back to the matter in hand, has the 'beer bidder' been in touch about the car yet?
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 07:45 AM
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Originally Posted by poolio74
Not if you want to upgrade to a car thats holding its value better
Well, then pay up - simples.

As Pete has pointed out, a car isn't worth more than what someone is willing to pay for it. Holding out for non-existent buyers isn't making a car more valuable, it's being a delusional seller.

I see loads of cars sticking around at prices way above what the market value actually is. No doubt the sellers are unwilling to drop the price because a) the car owes them a lot of money, b) the car is special because it's got <something> etc etc (it very rarely is...).

In actual fact, what happens is that the sellers reduce the prices in drips and drabs, and end up selling for less than what they would have got had they priced the car correctly in the first place as the market has had time to drop further (+ the car is older etc etc). The alternative is that the seller doesn't sell at all.

There are tonnes of used subarus around. They're *really* expensive to run nowadays, so of course they're going to be worth **** all. There are not enough "enthusiasts" who don't care about the running costs to support high prices for these cars, hence the price drops.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 12:47 PM
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LEEMAC....what do you mean your out? **** jokey i'm not here trying to sell it, this thread is about discussing the market...if i wanted a **** jockeys opionion i would have said

Dont you just love it when the dickless wonders come out

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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 12:51 PM
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Irondrew....in relation to the car yes this is what happens when you put your foot down, he has not said he has ripped teh sh*t out of it but simply what the car does on throttle....again let try and stick to the thread topic and not wonder the **** offf
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Osimabu ..not check with my mate as yet as he will be at work till 6, but i doubt it
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 01:10 PM
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No disrespect but the ebay add is horrible. Because of the huge text i only got halfway through reading it before clicking off. Why does the text need to be so big? its an online add not a poster.
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Old Oct 15, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by vava voom
LEEMAC....what do you mean your out? **** jokey i'm not here trying to sell it, this thread is about discussing the market...if i wanted a **** jockeys opionion i would have said

Dont you just love it when the dickless wonders come out
I was merely stating that your advert (or someones) did nothing for me in terms of being interested
you stated the advert text was good
I didnt think it was and maybe that was why you (or someone else) didnt get what was expected

**** jokey, lol
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 10:44 AM
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buying impreza is one thing , and keep it running is another
nearlly 500 quid for road tax + insurance + fuel + .......
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 11:05 AM
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Agreed...with the petrol hike, insurance and tax you need to make sure you can afford to run the car not just keep it locked in the garage looking pretty
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 11:27 AM
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I have to agree that an ad can either put you off or sell you a car. They are expensive to run year in year out and really more of a second car or toy these days than a run around.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 12:27 PM
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Let's come clean about it - the Advert write up was awful, awful size too ..... add to this the fact that the seller is a dealer spurting drivel about the car and it's a big turn off.

Then, of course, there is the slight issue of trying to sell the unsaleable ....... which is the biggest hurdle, no-one wants them anymore.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Let's come clean about it - the Advert write up was awful, awful size too ..... add to this the fact that the seller is a dealer spurting drivel about the car and it's a big turn off.

Then, of course, there is the slight issue of trying to sell the unsaleable ....... which is the biggest hurdle, no-one wants them anymore.
It's not that NOBODY wants them, just a smaller bracket than say 5-10 years ago and that's mainly down to fuel/tax. This site proves there are people that want them, its just making sure the ad gets to them.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
It's not that NOBODY wants them, just a smaller bracket than say 5-10 years ago and that's mainly down to fuel/tax. This site proves there are people that want them, its just making sure the ad gets to them.
I take your point - and, yes, there are still those who want these cars.

BUT, more people have sold and moved on than those joining and wishing to buy .... there are hundreds of Impreza's for sale, but few buyers.

I bought my Impreza in May 2000 - brand new - had to join a waiting list and pay the RRP too!! I owned it for a bit over 10 years and loved every moment ........ however, those halcyon days have been and they have gone - it cannot be described as the ultimate performance machine that it was back in the day.

It's sad, but times move on ..... the joiners now are a decade too late in buying the dream.
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Old Oct 16, 2012 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I bought my Impreza in May 2000 - brand new - had to join a waiting list and pay the RRP too!! I owned it for a bit over 10 years and loved every moment ........ however, those halcyon days have been and they have gone - it cannot be described as the ultimate performance machine that it was back in the day.
I doubt very much that it was the Ultimate Performance Machine.
Yeah, it was quick, but ultimate - nah, don't think so
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Old Oct 17, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I take your point - and, yes, there are still those who want these cars.

BUT, more people have sold and moved on than those joining and wishing to buy .... there are hundreds of Impreza's for sale, but few buyers.

I bought my Impreza in May 2000 - brand new - had to join a waiting list and pay the RRP too!! I owned it for a bit over 10 years and loved every moment ........ however, those halcyon days have been and they have gone - it cannot be described as the ultimate performance machine that it was back in the day.

It's sad, but times move on ..... the joiners now are a decade too late in buying the dream.
Obviously less people are interested nowadays compared to yesteryear but less people are interested in Nokia these days compared to Apple its just the way it is. Something will always come along better than the last thing.
As an Impreza owner I'm happy with that, less people have them so I am more unique . Also any classic car has to have its slump, its peak of worthlessness so people scrap them or sell them for peanuts.
My only worry is the rate people are restoring the 2 doors, and scrapping the 4, possibly the 4 door will be the rare version in years to come, and I've just sold one.

As for performance, well that's just progress for you, not many pre-1990 cars would keep up with a scoob. Not many cars now will keep up with the standard cars of 2025.
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