Oven glove

 

Hmm, playing devils advocate here but,

http://www.itv.com/news/2012-05-09/n...s-young-as-13/

 

Probably didn't shake their hand though ...

TX.

 

^ even a non Muslim woman who doesn't have a clue what the quran says? Sounds like a tenuous link to me unless the Woman he didn't shake hands with was a Muslim .

Have you asked him why he doesn't do the hand shaking thing ?

 

I read your quote above , went back to your original paragraph and re-read it and nearly spat my coffee everywhere. Sorry but it made me chuckle

 

Sounds like this guy needs a good butt kicking!! Makes me mad with rage!! Post his address on here and we'll form a posse and lynch his ***!

Who's with me?

 

tell him that the management have decided this is now part of his uniform

 

What the guy did would be standard practise in Saudi, although it's also a bit of a moot point since women are basically banned from the business world there.

The obvious problem then is that he isn't in Saudi, so I suggest you forward him this link, and have a whip-round in the office to sponsor his trip

 

Why do people use the word 'Asian'? There are four billion 'Asians' knocking around on the planet which surely renders the adjective meaningless.

 

pmsl

It's a respect thing unless you have the permission of the girl or the girls family we can not just ***** nilly interact with women. Yes you may think it's silly and extreme, but it's there to protect the respect of a woman.

However living in England we are told to respect the law of the land in Islam so his actions are totally disrespectful.

Best thing to do is pull him to aside and explain the situation. And basically stop being a ****.

 

 

why can't the guy just explain his reason for not shaking someone's hand? I had a real heavy cold for most of December, I had to meet will male and female business associates throughout this time, and while I would usually shake their hands on joining and leaving their company, I explained that I would spare them the risk of passing my germs to them by not shaking hands with them.

If someone at a senior level in a company gets offended by this, they need to have a word with themselves. It never ceases to amaze me what offends some people.

 

Are women not capable of handling themselves?

 

i believe they are

 

I've seen videos of this

 

I also have not shook a female hand for many years
There is no difference of opinion on this in Islaam. It is forbidden & rejected. When the situation arises, I explain that it is forbidden in Islaam to touch a female who is not a relation & we Muslims suffice ourselves with what is legislated for us, in other words, verbal greetings such as "Hello! Nice to meet you " I don't think this has ever caused me to loose any business, or left the the lady who was left hanging feeling that I'm a "sexist"

 

You do realise this is just an archaic cultural norm?

 

Maybe instead of shaking the womans hand he could present her with a gift?

i.e. I am sorry but my religion does not allow me to touch your hand, but please accept this gift of a company motto memory stick as my sincere form of greeting .....

What you think??

 

i also have also not shook a womens hand in many years at work. best way about it is to explain or just walk int he room with a tissue, ive noticed whether you have a cold or not they dont tend to put their hand out to shake your hand anyway. and no one gets offended to it.

the above is also a good alternative, i quite like that idea and may use it in future, a gift to make it forgotten

 

as for the chaps taking 1.5 hours for jummah, thats taking the mick. i arrange lunch around the prayers.. so you only ever take the prayers in your own time.

 

reason we dont is nothing to do with culture

 

No disrespect, but what is the reason?

 

He doesn't live next door to a cafe does he? One that recently redirected their extractor fan to point at his window?

Anyway why tell us when the Daily Mail would be even more receptive?

 

I accept your belief, but if you are living in my Country, accept mine. If you can't, I suggest you return to your Country and carry on your beliefs

 

which law is being broken by not shaking hands? My sister is a solicitor and she hasnt heard of any law of this nature. Is the previous poster a foreign national and not a citizen of this country? What do you want from these people? Should they act like the majority and get pissed, cause fights, **** in the bins, try to get laid with anything that moves, claim its love, then get somebody else and say I was drunk, repeat this every weekend and then blame other people because they havent got anywhere in life? How british do you have to be, to be british?

 

There is no law being broken, obviously!

But it is a lack of respect towards our western beliefs and customs that makes most of us angry, it is our country and it would be respectful to adhere to some integration.

You are offending us!

 

I think you're confusing British and Glaswegian, Mr Malone.

 

This is like so many things in life, a personal choice, i have travelled with muslims who are involved in tourism and go to many different countries as part of their business, they have no problem with adjusting according to the customs of the country they are in.

The problem as i see it rightly or wrongly, is this new age muslim radical types that want to have it every which way, and any deviation from their personal interpretation of the koran is seen as an affront to their religion.

There are passages in the koran that allow for muslims to do/eat and adjust accordingly for whatever is necessary for survival, but the militants/ idiots choose to ignore them.

I have muslims from all over the world staying with me as home stays studying at a very high level, mostly PHD and international projects of one form or another, what always makes me chuckel is when we have one they are very liberal as no 5am wake up prayers, most don't pray at all, eat anything and i mean anything, quite often want to try bacon and sausages, don't care if it's halal or not, drink alcohol, smoke, page three of the sun is a treat not to be missed ect, ect.

Then as soon as there are two of them you hear the alarm in the morning, more often than not a phone tune of the mosque call to prayer, then the inquiries about halal food start, and the formalities of speech/meet and greet and religion kicks in, they pray together, go to mosque on fridays and become different people.

Then when either of them leaves the other turns into a westernised liberal.

I'm talking about muslims from countries like saudi, libya, oman,jordan the
list goes on, but you get the gist.

I'm sure i'll get jumped on, but this is my personal experience over many years of traveling and hosting, so say what you will, it is what it is, and it's very rare to find one that does not deviate, in fact i only ever met two and both were beduins, one in egypt and the other from saudi, and i have had close contact all my life, since i could walk next door from my grans to eat fresh chapaties and pakora at the age of 3yrs.

 

The group of muslims in Rochdale didnt shake any young girls hands...

They just drug them and sh@g them...

Wonder how that would go down in a business meeting?

Its all archaic nonsense.......And if im sure about one thing,its not "respect" for the women that causes muslims indifference to the opposite gender..

 

I personally don't have a problem shaking hands with man, woman or beast. I think this lad is being overly pious and non conformist. If he wants to do this let him do it in his own time. There is no reason he should be compromising other people and making the company look bad.