2003 Spec C.



What happens if you get Meth on your car paint work? Does it corrode or just evaporate?

How's best to store it in my home garage?

 

I had a 10l jerry can of meth at the mapping session, i suppose i could've added another 5l of meth to the tank but couldn't be arsed faffing about with another 5l jerry can lol

 

It just evaporates. I'd be more careful of getting it on your skin. Best stored in a sealed container and simply decanted in to a suitable receptacle to transfer to the tank.

 

I fill a 10l jerry can of meth, pour it into the tank at the pump and fill to the brim with v power. IMO there's no need to mix the fuel/meth out of the tank

 

I also just take the meth to the station. Usually take either 4 or 5 lt of meth in a Jerry can and then top up with the required fuel.
Won't damage your paintwork if you spill a bit on it and as long as you wipe it off your skin quickly you'll be fine.

 

If changing from Meth to VPower map the tank must be rin right down then brimmed & then run down to half full off boost. At this point it should be brimmed again & then run normally. This waters any remaining Meth down before allowing boost. It's a pain, but the only safe way. I nearly always run Meth as switching is frustrating & requires self disciplin

 

I'd love this stuff! Can you do switchable maps on an ecutek?

 

Newage with drive

 

On JDM is possible to have switchable maps like via EcuTek or Open Source,but for sure ask your mapper


Jura

 

Meth is great stuff. Been using it for a few years on the car now with my SimTek/AlcaTek ECU.

Storing can be tricky if you have kids. Just make sure it's out of the way and kept in a cool area and out of sun light to avoid moisture build up.

I'm a little ****. If I haven't used the 25ltr bottle up with meth in and it's open I simple don't use it after 4 months. I just open a fresh bottle or buy another one. Meth carries water once moisture hits it and losses its affect.

I ALWAYS wear gloves when handling the stuff. It maybe GAY but I'd rather be safe as I tend to have a few ***** on my fingers or cracked skin from typing at a desk allday. lol

In terms of use in the car. I fill x2 5 ltrs cans up prior to my trip to Shell. I've had a few funny looks from people wondering what the hell I'm doing but hey...... Put the 10ltrs in the tank and fill up to the top.

I can't be arsed to work out all the percentages with the ratio. So my method is......long as you have the same fuel in the car (for example V Power) and you fill up with the meth (10ltrs) then fill up to the brim with more v power thats your 18/20% mix. Prior to switching to meth map to the high boost setting I let the fuel and meth mix for a little going through the lines. I normally allow anything between 5-12 miles.

The other way round is I wait for it to hit the fuel light (swith the map to low boost) . Put 15ltrs of pure V power in . Repeat the same once the light comes on again (leaving n low boost map still) then fill up with a full tanks of fuel. In effect this should flush any traces of meth through the pipe lines.

Then if you want to swith back to the meth again.....wait for it to get to the bottom 1/4 of a tank.............10ltrs of meth......fill up.


Steve

 

Okay, has anybody used meth on a vf34 in a newage wrx? Would any one recommend this?

 

If you have duel maps, one being vpower and one as a meth map, when youve been running the meth map and then just want to run on vpower, can you not just switch to the vpower map once you've filled the tank with plain as surely what ever is left on the system/tank will be minimal?

 

No, you need to dilute what Meth is left in the tank as much as possible before allowing boost. The problem is any Meth in the tank on a VPower map may cause lean running & possible det.

 

You should gain like bhp and torque,if someone used think yes,VF34 is good turbo,with methanol you should have too better spool up and above mentioned bhp plus torque

Think on your WRX you will be limited by your box,which can break,but this is only lucky draw,some people running 400bhp on wrx box,but some break wrx box at 300bhp

On your WRX not sure if you could have via EcuTek dual maps,via Open source you can have too ALS,Mafless,LC and other stuff on your OE ECU

Jura

 

Cheers, my thoughts were that with the meth your running a higher octain rating and there for running it on just the vpower map would be ok, if tha makes sense

 

jennychem is expensive btw, just look for a local place, i found a place by me who does it me for 60p a litre and thast onlt for 25l, if i bought 200l it would be under 50p a l

and use proper rubber gloves not the thin disposable type. i have been told if you do drink it or get alot on you, drink ethanol, apparently the ethanol gets absorbed and stops the methanol being absorbed into your body, worth a try cos youre dead or blind anyway might aswell be blind drunk

 

lol its only an example mate, i do know this

 

 

Stedee name the place mate as I live near ish you

 

I use jennychem but if anybody knows a decent place in the Cambridge/Peterborough area let me know.

 

It is higher octane but is less potent than petrol. Methanol is more resistant to detonation but you need more of it to yield the same power as petrol. This is the issue when swapping maps, the V Power map will have a different fuel ratio than the V Power+methanol map. If there isn't enough fuel then the mixture will lean out and the results not good. Theoretically you could run just methanol and indeed Andy F. has, the only issue is getting enough of it in to the engine. Whilst there are all these fancy additives petrol is still the king when it comes to power to weight ratio yields.

 

I use these guys.

http://www.spenvalleybiodiesel.co.uk...meth_price.htm

 

I used to run it in mine also.
I found that the lemonade bottles that Lidl sell (that freeway stuff) fit the filler neck perfectly as they were more bullet shaped as opposed the more common brands. I used the same 2L bottles for 3 years and the seals were still perfect.

I used to stick 2L in for every 10L of fuel and mine was running 370bhp with 360 lbs-ft of torque on a 2005 2L sti with the standard injectors and VF35



Graeme

 

So there is no need to buy all those meth injection kits ? Just pour it in the tank and go ?

Does the car run leaner or richer with 20% meth mixed with fuel ?

 

Added in tank is the best way. If running a VPower Map & you add Meth the mixture will be lean.

 

Why do you recon it's the best way, if you dont mind me asking?

 

Safer (no pump to fail/methanol to run out), easier (no kit to install), cheaper (no kit to buy) need more reasons?

 

+1

Steve

 

thats the one, i meant to thank you for that btw but forgot. he`ll do it cheaper than the quoted price btw, alot cheaper

 

as above , i looked hard into doing the meth /water injection but bottled it cos if something goes wrong just a little bit - bang, new engine required