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Old 15 April 2012, 11:51 PM
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Mud flaps !!!!! No thank you, they look bloody awful.
I do have the original spoiler sat in the garage, sometimes I stick it on for a few weeks for a change. I really like the spoilerless look though, makes it look different from the rest.
Old 15 April 2012, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by 53
Excellent bar the bonnet risers, truly hate bonnet risers. They don't look good or work IMHO

Apart from that kudos mate
Sort of agree on the look of the risers however after fitting them along with the heat vent I noticed a dramatic drop in temps.
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taking away a spolier for me just seems wrong. as it has multiple benefits.
Multiple benefits???
Old 16 April 2012, 09:46 AM
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well two, looks and drag....
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Originally Posted by Brun
Multiple benefits???
That's what I thought, lol.

The only time I notice it's not there is when cornering at 100mph +,
Plus it's extra drag and weight which slows me down
Old 16 April 2012, 09:56 AM
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you need to create drag to obtain downforce, no ?
Old 16 April 2012, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by craigo
you need to create drag to obtain downforce, no ?
Yep, the two go hand in hand. But the question is, is that really required on a road car ?

All these cars you see where the owners have bolted huge spoilers to their cars have done it for one reason, the look. They like the 'look' of their car with a huge spoiler. I like the 'look' of no spoiler so just unbolted it, lol.

Track car is a different story because they are constantly cornering at huge speeds, speeds which we will never do on a public road.

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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Yep, the two go hand in hand. But the question is, is that really required on a road car ?

All these cars you see where the owners have bolted huge spoilers to their cars have done it for one reason, the look. They like the 'look' of their car with a huge spoiler.
the sti large spoiler does create downforce at speed, the upper hawkeye one does too, thats why the fitted them. the lattter to direct airflow onto the rear spoiler.

but driving at road speeds i doubt you would see any difference at all.
Old 16 April 2012, 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
the sti large spoiler does create downforce at speed, the upper hawkeye one does too, thats why the fitted them. the lattter to direct airflow onto the rear spoiler.

but driving at road speeds i doubt you would see any difference at all.
Oh I completely agree buddy, even the mid level classic spoilers create downforce if your going fast enough.
But how often can we corner at those speeds on a public highway ?

I've only noticed it not being on a couple of times when really moving on a long sweeping bend. The car didn't feel unstable at all but just a little lighter on the back end.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Oh I completely agree buddy, even the mid level classic spoilers create downforce if your going fast enough.
But how often can we corner at those speeds on a public highway ?

I've only noticed it not being on a couple of times when really moving on a long sweeping bend. The car didn't feel unstable at all but just a little lighter on the back end.
yup have driven my car with the spoiler off and noticed no difference at all.
think you would have to be doing silly speeds to notice it.
yours suits the spoilerless look anyway.
so whats the next mod now its finished?
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Yep, the two go hand in hand. But the question is, is that really required on a road car ?

All these cars you see where the owners have bolted huge spoilers to their cars have done it for one reason, the look. They like the 'look' of their car with a huge spoiler. I like the 'look' of no spoiler so just unbolted it, lol.

Track car is a different story because they are constantly cornering at huge speeds, speeds which we will never do on a public road.
on a road car.. hmmm
im quite sure german drivers on an autobahn might say they are of great benefit. they are of no practical use at all while standing still or slow speeds.
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
so whats the next mod now its finished?
No, I've told myself it's done and the only money to be spent now is general maintenance
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
No, I've told myself it's done and the only money to be spent now is general maintenance
i await your next post.

anyone know how to fit...............

the best part of your car is the sound, no dumpvalve compressor stall is awesome, deff the way im going.

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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
i await your next post.

anyone know how to fit...............

the best part of your car is the sound, no dumpvalve compressor stall is awesome, deff the way im going.
I call it a 'WRC spec dump valve'
Old 16 April 2012, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by craigo
on a road car.. hmmm
im quite sure german drivers on an autobahn might say they are of great benefit. they are of no practical use at all while standing still or slow speeds.
Which high performance German cars have huge spoilers fitted ?
Old 16 April 2012, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Which high performance German cars have huge spoilers fitted ?
was only saying sloilers in general, not huge ones
Old 16 April 2012, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by craigo
was only saying sloilers in general, not huge ones
big or small they all create downforce, but at what speed do they do it?
i doubt you would notice at normal driving and even on an autobahn as you are going straight anyway
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Small spoilers are pointless.

Interesting read -

http://www.chickmagnetstuff.com/2010...rcars.html?m=1
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Small spoilers are pointless.

Interesting read -

http://www.chickmagnetstuff.com/2010...rcars.html?m=1
ive been reading through some stuff this morn on spoilers and wings. interesting stuff yea...

but i think i can also add safety to one of my multiples.
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http://www.torquecars.com/tuning/spo...rodynamics.php
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a spoiler produces no downforce, it reduces lift....... hmmm

50-70 mph a wing starts to show its benefits

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Originally Posted by craigo
a spoiler produces no downforce, it reduces lift....... hmmm
so if it reduces lift it's pushing down.

i.e creating downforce!
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
so if it reduces lift it's pushing down.

i.e creating downforce!
i would have assumed so also mate. but it explains different on what ive read
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a wing creates downforce...... a spoiler reduces lift
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I really wouldn't read too much into it buddy. If you like the look of a spoiler then fair play.
For me, personally, I don't like them on a classic and haven't encountered any advantage from using one on the road.

As they say, each to there own and all that.

And anyway buddy, your car ain't fast enough to need a spoiler, Hahahahahahaha......
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I really wouldn't read too much into it buddy. If you like the look of a spoiler then fair play.
For me, personally, I don't like them on a classic and haven't encountered any advantage from using one on the road.

As they say, each to there own and all that.

And anyway buddy, your car ain't fast enough to need a spoiler, Hahahahahahaha......
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I really wouldn't read too much into it buddy. If you like the look of a spoiler then fair play.
For me, personally, I don't like them on a classic and haven't encountered any advantage from using one on the road.

As they say, each to there own and all that.

And anyway buddy, your car ain't fast enough to need a spoiler, Hahahahahahaha......
would that be in a straight line or through the twisties ?

remember what a type R was designed to do...
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
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Originally Posted by craigo
would that be in a straight line or through the twisties ?

remember what a type R was designed to do...
but it was owned by jimmyinrugby!
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
but it was owned by jimmyinrugby!
not the one i have now !!!


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