zip106

Does your love get sweeter every time you drive it?

J4CKO

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7K sounds cheap for a decent 968 cab, people seem to want 6k for a 944 cab, not sure if they get it, I paid £4250.

I kind of prefer the front on the 944 and the rear on the 968.

Luan Pra bang

I asked a specialst in old Porsches and he advised me to advertise it for 10k but I did not have a single phone call in 2 weeks so I asked a different Classic Porsche dealer and he said advertise at £7500 and take an offer so I am going to just put 7k no offers and see how it goes. Not really fussed if I sell it or not but fancy a weekend car that I don't really give a **** about rather than a rare classsic.

icbm

My choice would be a 2.7 boxster!
944/968's are great cars but just look too dated now IMO.

J4CKO

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Someone off here should snap that up for that kind of money.

J4CKO

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Someone off here should snap that up for that kind of money, any more photos and details ?

Jamo

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wish I had £7k id love that

fatscoobfella1

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I have had a 2.5 944,a 3.2S Boxster and have 911(996) Carerra..

If i was you,i would buy a minty low mileage Boxster 3.2S..

Dont worry about the engine scenario.. Your buying a 10 yr old sports car,potential engine meltdown could be said of any make you care to mention at this age..

I found keeping any of the Porsches i have had cheap and cheerful.Service parts are cheap enough,insurance is kind for what you get and despite what many people say they are very reliable.. They do like a drink though,and its super unleaded that it sups so beware...lol......

A boxster S is a superb car,fast enough and has sublime handling... Not a lot compares on a sweeping A road when the suns out.People really do forget how fast a boxi 3.2 is..

You maybe able to nick a cheap 996 from somewhere.It will probably be doom blue with Savannah trim and have a few miles up it.. Only you can decide whether having the older car but a "911" is worth it..

With 8k in my pocket...It would be a 3.2s...

As for a 944.....Go and drive one,it will feel old and pedestrian im afraid.And will smell like a brass's strides

My current ride.......

J4CKO

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Now I quite like that but it needs different wheels or them painting and to lose the graphics.

fatscoobfella1

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Yea...

I agree about the wheels,even though they were £2500!!! Im looking for Carerra 996 gen 2 sports or 997 "S" wheels.....

The carrera stripe is a marmite thing,however approx 90% of people seem to like it,the jury is still out for me..
Maybe with some backdate rims ??

Without stripe and hardtop fitted..

J4CKO

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Yeah, looks miles better without the graphics, the wheels look ok without that, it is just a bit "busy", I always think Porsches are a bit about being understated with the odd lairy lime green mad one that works formt he factory, people can get carried away and over bling it and I dont think they carry it off, think yours works with an either/or on the wheels/graphics but I don't think both at the same time.

fatscoobfella1

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Agreed totally.....

The stripe is stopping for the minute,but "plainer" wheels are being sought.

I would love to backdate it,i recently seen a 996 in Gulf colours and it looked awesome..

Always have a hankering for these...

Luan Pra bang

Personally I think the boxster is more fun to drive than the 996 and less likely to turn into a money pit, 996's are **** IMO . Obviously 968's are the best but if thats too old and too classic boxsters really are great to drive.

bighead

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they are very nice !! even better on a 993/964 Turbo

fatscoobfella1

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Whats the difference??

They have literally the same mechanicals/suspension/electrics!!

It will cost no more to fix a 996 than a Boxster...

Just the 996 will hold better residuals and are faster..

Luan Pra bang

Engines on 996's are **** and highly prone to failure, they feel much slower and heavier than they should, they weigh almost 2000kg's with a driver and feel it. Boxters feel more like a sports car and possibly due to the weight handle much better on the road and unlike the 996 I have never heard of one having 2 engines in 12 years. I also think it will be hard to find a proper gearbox in the 996 not to mention that you can get a boxster for 5k so hardly a depreciation night mare. I also think the extra weight of the 996 is what casues rear supsension problems, then they get old all sorts of random clunks and clicks start coming from the rear suspension.

J4CKO

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I think Luan has seen his **** as FatScoobFella has dissed the mighty 4 cylinder Porsche family, ok a 958 isnt a 944 but it isnt much different, and I quote,

"As for a 944.....Go and drive one,it will feel old and pedestrian im afraid.And will smell like a brass's strides "

I thought it was fair comment

I love mine despite it's slight whiffiness, doesnt feel pedestrian really, it pulls really quite nicely, better than I expected and corners well, it is a bit old and creaky and it does have an interesting aroma but I like it in the way I actually quite like how the Dog smells. I suspect a decent 944 driven by someone who knows what they are doing will be closer to a normal 996 than you may think, a Turbo may even be quicker.

Luan Pra bang

Could not be more wrong, a business partner of mine had a 996 and we added it to our company policy so I could use it when I wanted and it was without doubt the most dissapointing car I have ever driven , it was not fun to drive, it had 2 engines in he time he had it as well as a bucket load of other problems , it gave no sensation of speed at all hence I got a speeding ticket almost monthly. I just don't like them. As for the 944 they handle similar to a 968 just much slower, I get more pleaure from driving mine than I ever did from a 996 but yes it feels old, it does smell and its far from pedestrian.
Unless you want the cheap insurance and the enjoy the classic car old leather smell, an s2000 or Lotus Elise is a much better option than an old Porker.

J4CKO

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Much slower, shouldn't it be about 15 percent slower given that a 968 has another 30 ish bhp ?

ScoobyDoo555

The one thing to mention is that for the cost, the Boxsters will have the same engine issues (IMS/RMS) as the 996......

You DO have the other issue that (rightly or wrongly), the Boxster is still seen as a car that the owner had to settle for, because they couldn't afford the 911......

Personally, I'm looking at a 996 - the Boxster doesn't interest me in the slightest.... but only because I don't want a soft-top.

J4CKO

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I might go for a Boxster next, I don't see them as some poor relation as after all it is still a Porsche, still quick and still capable, it doesnt follow that a 911 is better in all areas, some prefer the mid engined Boxster, sometimes it isnt just better, sometimes its different, anyway the people that will point out your poor mans Porsche are the same ones that told me my Saab was really a Vectra and they typically are driving some tedious diesel POS so it can be jealousy motivated.

smokingkills

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I'm 2 months in to Porsche ownership & loving it. It's a great place to be sat behind the wheel.

The 996 has a fair share of horror stories on internet. Although not wise to ignore them there are some safeguards eg IMS gaurdian, regular servicing & drive it like it was designed for.

Here's a pic of mine £75k worth in 1999 with all the extras (recently bought for 11k):



Black leather interior, 4 wheel drive & manual box

J4CKO

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IMS Guardian, thats the thing that lights up to tell you to trade it in sharpish isnt it ?

smokingkills

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Lol something like that.

It will take a nought off the repair bill. It monitors early engine failiures. I think the idea came from aircrafts.

ScoobyDoo555

anybody remember the Scooby Knocklink? Same type of principle.

fatscoobfella1

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Of course a 986 is gonna be lighter,it only has 2 seats as opposed to 4 in the 996...

A 996 will suffer no more engine failures than any of the Boxster range..They all have the potential to go bang,but like i said earlier your buying a 10yr+ car with 300bhp...Name a car that has the same spec and age you can call reliable ?

As for a 986....Hmm.....I like them,but wouldnt own one..They are very "chest wig and cigar" looking nowadays.... Shame as back in the day they were nice,i very very nearly bought a yellow 968 clubsport around 15 years ago from a tuning company in Batley...The performance was very lacklustre and it drove like a Capri,but i was seriously in love with it..
I kept my GT4 CS in the end..

fatscoobfella1

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Very nice...

That wasnt bought from Middlesex was it ?

J4CKO

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I have had several Capri's, wouldn't say the 944 drives much like one, ok, it has the engine in the front and drives the rear wheels but the 944 has a lot more ability, there was a reason they cost more than twice what a 2.8 Capri cost.

I think the 968 has aged very well, I dont think Chest Wig when I see one, I think discerning enthusiast/track day participant.

Luan Pra bang

968 has 4 seats mate, 996's do go bang more than boxsters ,both engines can suffer from their long list of faults but for whatever reason 996's suffer worse, perhaps because they are heaver or get driven harder. 996's have issues mate common knowledge and I have plenty of first hand experience, any car that has 2 new engines from in 12 years is not right. 2002 I think Porsche admitted they had a problem and fixed some of them so if it was me I would be looking for a 2002 onwards car.

fatscoobfella1

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Sorry,didnt know you had a 996 that had 2 engines in...You was comparing boxsters and 996 as regards weight and feel... Thats why i said 986(Boxster model code) only having 2 seats.....

FYI i have never ever had a flat six water cooled out for any reason except a clutch..And i have worked as a tech on performance cars for over 25years now..

Oh yes...All the flat sixes "can" have problems...ISB,oval bore and D chunk on the liners.But im saying the cars have no more issues than anything else thats producing 300 BHP+.....Scoobs,Evo's,Skylines.TVRs etc etc etc ALL have problems....

BTW...the "issues" you talk of being resolved in 2002 isnt correct.. Porsche gradually improved design throughout the production run of the 996..By 2001 they were pretty sound,but there is instances of engines still going..In fact the 997 still suffers the odd meltdown... It happens....But its no different from any other performance manufacturer..



Oh.....Im sure a 996 isnt 2000kg.....More like 1300kg...

Jacko.....Was only givin you a hook....Gladly you avoided it........lol.....

I genuinly like the 968.... But i do think it has aged badly,like all the TVR's of that period..All IMHO of course..