Ok, a quick simple multitasking test; open up youtube app and play a video, but before it completes, go into another app and leave youtube app "running in the background". Now after you have spent some time in the other app, go back into youtube app and I can guarantee that the youtube app was not running as the buffering of the video does not resume until you go back into the youtube app. I've just tried this on an iPad 2, no issues with the Galaxy Tab as it continued to bufffer and download the complete video in the background. That is true multitasking not pseudo-multitasking from Apple.

 

True Multitasking, Multitasking, it's all Multitasking which all goes to prove Tony wrong. iOS does Multitask in the True form and the Multitasking form.

 

Here's a test for you Jon. Browse the Web on your iPad then send yourself an email from another machine. Is that email there and waiting for you once you finish browsing? If the answer is yes then what you've experienced is "True Multitasking" argument over.

 

As repeated here over and over again, it only multi tasks on a very limited set of Apple provided functions. You can not multi task any non-Apple code. The applications all get put to sleep when sent into the background and do not run unless brought to the foreground (it's just that limited set of operating system functions that keep running). It's not rocket science!

So, I suppose you could say it can do multi-tasking. It's just that Apple won't let any applications use it

 

At last we agree, iOS does Multitask. Tony, you want your Lemons sliced or cut into quarters?

 

You are still wrong Jack and you wont admit it you suck your own lemons, you love them that much

 

Ha! So that's me Iain, Apple, Wikipedia, Google and anyone else with a bit of sense who know that iOS Multitasks and then you who doesn't believe it does. Tragic.

Maybe you've been swigging Gin with those Lemons.

 

Have you actually read and understood what Iain has said or are you just using your interpretation of "it multi tasks"?
Everyone knows but you, that IOS does NOT multi task

 

Keep digging. I'm going to have to buy you more Lemons to fill that whole.

Tony Burns "iOS does not Multitask"
Rest of the World "Yes it does"

 

Well looks like you are the rest of the world then Jack, feeling lonely yet?

Have a read, it might be a bit technical for you, but basically IOS doesnt multi task, GPS is hardware, data can stream at any time, every smart phone does that regardless, app updates (comes under data streaming, same with ios updates, its not multi tasking).

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2012/01/d...titasking.html

Its very informative, basically says that anything in your "multi tasking" bar is a recent app thats not active.

Now you have not tried out what a few of us have asked you to do, are you afraid you will become an even bigger laughing stock Jack?
Open up 2 apps at once and run them both on screen together on your nice shiny ipad, if you can do both together then you can "multi task", if it puts one in the background then it doesnt, and we all already know that answer

 

Good read HERE. Yes the OS is a multitasking os, however there are restrictions which Iain pointed out and are outlined in that article. It is all done for a reason, providing the end user with a consistant experience.

Lets look at the crazy example posted earlier. Who the heck wants a youtube app to continue buffering the video when you switch out to read a book or use another bandwidth intensive app or lock the phone? Lets buffer that video for another 30mins over 3g, when you might not flip back and watch it for a day? Lets use up loads of ram just to store the rest of the vid incase you watch it. No point.

Everything is single window, so who really cares about having other apps running in the background other than the service types apple permits?

I would be interested in reading people's reasoning why they need everything to run in the background.

 

As before, Web Browser, Email and Skype all running right now Tony.

 

All correct. iOS does a fantastic job of making available what you need to be available. In the mobile operating world it's the subject of envy. Tony's just being a tit, a lemon sucking tit.

 

lol Tony, I used that article too.

However, as I mentioned it is a multitasking os in the true sense of the word. It is based on MacOSX and is unix based. Apple's api's do limit what can be done, that is true, and in doing so impose background running limitations on apps. These limitations prevent the user from seeing what they normally class as 'multitasking'.

To say it is not multitasking though is wrong imo as many things happen in the background when you are watching your youtube app for example.

If you want to process seti data in the background while watching a youtube vid, then you need a different device

Richie.

 

strange how CoPilot gives me turn based audio directions when I am in the home screen

*boggle*

 

This is too funny, firstly that link of yours contains a copy of the original article that I posted earlier, you need to do a bit of reading before you post mate, first paragraph "Ever since Apple introduced multitasking in iOS 4 in 2010" Ha!

 

He didn't read this bit from his own Link, I posted it earlier but he chose to ignore the facts.

There are exactly five kinds of apps allowed to run indefinitely in the Background state in iOS 5:

Apps that play audio while in the Background state. A good example is Instacast while it's playing a podcast.
Apps that track your location in the Background. For example, you still want voice prompts from your TomTom navigation app, even if another app is Active.
Apps that listen for incoming VOIP calls. If you use Skype on iOS, you can receive incoming Skype calls while the app is in the Background.
Newsstand apps that are downloading new content.
Apps that receive continuous updates from an external accessory in the Background.

 

Am I missing the point of this argument? Lets say I have a device with limited screen size, battery power and internet connectivity (at a cost when not on wifi), which would I rather:

1) A device that has 20 apps running at the same time because I haven't explicitly told them to close, which are all after that cpu/power/net because the developers are all left to their own devices

2) A device that manages all that for me, so I get the maximum usage at the least expense in battery and net, where apps can only work in the background if absolutely necessary

Number 2 for me please...

 

You still dont get it do you? well they say you cannot talk sense to an idiot and I have to agree, no options talking to you Jack because you are an idiot
It cannot multi task, simple as.
Yet you wont try it because you are scared to be proven wrong oh dont be a chicken Jack, give it a shot, iplayer and angry birds at the same time on the same screen, thats multi tasking

Tony

PS, anything that uses data to update is a functionality of the set, its not an app, even though it may update apps in one way or another, the app can (and is) still in a passive state, see above for all those you highlighted, any set with those will run regardless, keep digging your hole

 

The apps dont work in the background, that is the point they are passivated by IOS.
GPS and the likes are different, GPS is controlled by a chip in the device and uses cellular and data networks on apple gear, really naff way of doing it as it cannot work independent like a lot of other handsets/equipment.

 

Wow, I'm going to have to get noddy on this one... this'll kill a few brain cells...

Read:

http://www.iphonehacks.com/2012/01/d...titasking.html

which was posted above...

See the bit where it says "Background - the app is no longer on-screen but is still executing code"

Which part of that DONT you understand?

Let me spell it out for you, its in the BACKGROUND and its STILL EXECUTING CODE...

All your talk of "GPS and the likes are different, GPS is controlled by a chip in the device and uses cellular and data networks" and such like makes you look like a 5 year old trying to explain why it rains.

When you know what you're talking about I'll listen... until then stop embarrassing yourself, because that's all you're doing.

Do you really want me to post up a picture of my iPhone task list, to show you exactly what's running in the background?

J

Ps. This was the polite version...

 

More to the point, are you happy to continue buying Apple products knowing this?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-17557630

I know we don't know the working conditions of the factories of most products we buy, but we now know how Apple operate.


And Jack, you really do sound like a child now. I know you will never realise this which just underlines my comment.

 

These threads are getting boring now.

I couldn't give 2 monkey f***s what my iPhone does in the background, whether the app continues to sing and dance when I switch to something else, I really don't care.

It works for me and if I find it doesn't do what i want as a phone / messenger / gaming device / reader blah blah then I'll search for an alternative phone.

Aren't you guys sick of all this my c***k is bigger than yours?

 

They might well be. But the first person who admits defeat will forever be known as the person with the smaller *****.

 

Maybe we should let them settle it Harry Hill style...

FIGHT!!!

 

I don't find it boring at all, it's quite entertaining handing out Lemons for people to suck on.

 

I love the way you do this Tony, sneaking in "on the same screen" late in your argument to try to save face. Well it's not working, you can't save your face from the Lemons.

 

You are priceless.

 

So you didnt read the lot did you? god someone else as stupid as Jack

Ok do you get that bit?

That bit sunk in?

You do understand that being updated is a background task, it doesnt mean the app is "active", totally the opposite.

If you cannot understand the basics, both you and jack, then go read up about it, the device is somewhat more complex than you think, it has in built programs in chips for audio/GPS/Data and voice, these can all work independantly because they are "SEPERATE", so to try to teach you, I have to drop to your level of thinking, or lack of.
This is why the likes of "voip", "gps", "updates", can still run, but you will find that the skype will be in an inactive state until it has a request for a call incoming, and trust me, if you are lost on these basics then no way in hell will you understand call setup

So the conclusion is, it doesnt multi task, ive even asked Jack twice now to prove it on his ipad, but seems he refuses to do that because he doesnt want egg on his face

 

I hope you love your bitter taste Jack, you wont even go out of your way to prove the basics