Is this racist?
Has got a bit silly, I can see how they would construe this but cant see why they would bother, it was a crap caption and one I would have shied away from using just to avoid rattling the cage of the perpetually offended.
Black people have darker skin than us white folk, there is a contrast in skin tone and they have used it for the aesthetics, wouldn't be a problem the other way round, I wouldn't be offended in the slightest, the real racism is people being beaten for skin colour, people being overlooked for a job, racist comments, racist language used to hurt or offend, not this and the objections just dilute and confuse the issue, people who are not racist get tied up trying to appear so, and those that have the hatred carry on as normal and I still think we should be able to discuss certain groups, like for example the London riots and why it happened just easily as we should be able to discuss positive stuff regarding a group.
Black people have darker skin than us white folk, there is a contrast in skin tone and they have used it for the aesthetics, wouldn't be a problem the other way round, I wouldn't be offended in the slightest, the real racism is people being beaten for skin colour, people being overlooked for a job, racist comments, racist language used to hurt or offend, not this and the objections just dilute and confuse the issue, people who are not racist get tied up trying to appear so, and those that have the hatred carry on as normal and I still think we should be able to discuss certain groups, like for example the London riots and why it happened just easily as we should be able to discuss positive stuff regarding a group.
P.S. And if I'm allowed to be really speculative, the straps joining the bikini top and bottom are almost square and compasses Masonic with the belly button acting as a kind of circumpunct or a 'G'. That is all.
Last edited by JTaylor; Feb 27, 2012 at 09:11 PM.

Anyway I didn't see that caption and see your point,
Brain is selective. It only registers what it wants to register. Mind is a different matter.
perhaps artistically it is a bit literal anyway?
I agree that the picture isn’t enigmatic enough to be artistic. But in the magazine’s defence, some imagination might have been applied by a feeble chance. If that wasn’t the case, all the hot tottys could have been grinning brainlessly at you boys, head on; with their bosoms hanging out, instead of looking somewhat shifty-eyed profile angles.

I remember reading how Jung said the black man/woman represented a different archetype in the psyche that a white man/women. The black archetype represents animal instincts, base desires etc, the white archtype of more civilized, controlled desires so inhibition.
Having had a dream specifically involving a black women once, I am wondering if Jung is right and our minds are subconsciously racist?
Having had a dream specifically involving a black women once, I am wondering if Jung is right and our minds are subconsciously racist?
Its possible that your Subconscious (well above the multiple layers over the deep resting Unconscious) has retained every-day residues, images seen and bygone and yet still stored in your subliminal mind, and therefore, you saw what you saw, in your dream? But if you are talking of Jungian perspective, I wonder if it still leaves you feeling that our minds are unconsciously racist? It was only the once, you said. Don’t you think that it could have been an epiphany when you saw your Anima, your Soul-image; the very part of your unconscious side of Persona in your dream, and you still wonder what you wonder? I wonder.
But if you are talking of Jungian perspective, I wonder if it still leaves you feeling that our minds are unconsciously racist? It was only the once, you said. Don’t you think that it could have been an epiphany when you saw your Anima, your Soul-image; the very part of your unconscious side of Persona in your dream, and you still wonder what you wonder? I wonder.


The pinko PC Plonkers who are trying to overturn the World order as we have always known it will seize on any opportunity however ridiculous, in fact the more that way the better, to make a fuss and to get their own way in order to show their power!
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If you look hard enough you'll find racism everywhere - intended or not.
A feminist would say that cover was sexist stereotyping of women. Yet I see no bra-burning (pity
)
A feminist would say that cover was sexist stereotyping of women. Yet I see no bra-burning (pity
)
Still I think FHM is pretty harmless compared to the ubiquitous US **** industry outputs which is definitely a blight on aesthetics.
Rather clever how the shoulder of the women on the left and the breast of the women on the right accentuates Bela's curves. I like it; good shot, challenging norms.
P.S. And if I'm allowed to be really speculative, the straps joining the bikini top and bottom are almost square and compasses Masonic with the belly button acting as a kind of circumpunct or a 'G'. That is all.
P.S. And if I'm allowed to be really speculative, the straps joining the bikini top and bottom are almost square and compasses Masonic with the belly button acting as a kind of circumpunct or a 'G'. That is all.
I'm just trying to work out if she's shaved or not...
You do look at another possibility that your Unconscious might have conducted race-blind interview for the role of personifying my anima, so we can rule that in. Other than that, Ego has to be shelved to check out your Unconscious; to find out if you are unconsciously racist or not. Otherwise, your "may be racist" can simply be your Conscious Ego's interpretation, and your femme fetale may really be your femme inspiritrice ; for what your Ego knows. That's my view. Jung imagined dark Anima to be a baddy and darkness to negativity for his reasons. In all honesty, I too have reasons to freak out in darkness. Electricity went off twice before, and I was terrified!
That was easy peasy, Sinky.
I didn't mean that the two at the bottom of the cover were hard to spot. I just pointed out that I discovered them hiding under all that printing milarkey. I think they shouldn't have been hired, as the lettering all over them doesn't justify their pay cheque.
Fail.
That was easy peasy, Sinky.
I didn't mean that the two at the bottom of the cover were hard to spot. I just pointed out that I discovered them hiding under all that printing milarkey. I think they shouldn't have been hired, as the lettering all over them doesn't justify their pay cheque.
That was easy peasy, Sinky.
I didn't mean that the two at the bottom of the cover were hard to spot. I just pointed out that I discovered them hiding under all that printing milarkey. I think they shouldn't have been hired, as the lettering all over them doesn't justify their pay cheque.
Nobody would listen to it because it would be rubbish

They do exist though, don't suppose there is much 'black music' on country and western or classical music channels...






