Boro

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My point exactly. Normally you can pass them at just over the speed limit as long as you aren't taking the p!ss.

suBruce

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Most certainly mate, no pigs going to worry about you rolling along showin 80 on the clock because as we all know 80 on the clock even with slightly up-sized alloys is about 74-76mph.

Even so if you are doing a genuine 80 most motorway police (the most normal and reasonable of her majesty's constabulary) realize that you are just as if not more aware of your surroundings in a quite capable car. i.e impreza.

Some are probably wondering how your keeping it down to 80, and I'm not boasting as a regular commuter in an impreza I rarely exceed 80 odd mph yet I drive all the way down the M6 at 70 something no quibbles.

If anyone were to question that I'm sure any good solicitor would argue your case up to and beyond the 77 mark.

Leslie

Did you realise that even though most police forces allow for a 10% speedo error, you are still only legally allowed to drive at 70 mph as indicated by your speedometer. If that indication causes you to drive at the 10% error in your speed up to 77 mph in this case then you are clear-if that particular force will go along eith the 10% allowable error as previously mentioned. If you drive at a speed in excess of the speed limit indicated on your speedo you are breaking the law should the coppers see that. If however you are still at or below the speed limit you are safe.

Complicated but worth knowing about.

Les

jef

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if he was doing it as a method of traffic control for an accident ect ahead, the blues shouldve been on ect, so as to alert drivers to pull in behind, not start waving, or flashing lights at anyone overtaking?

ive never seen any policemen behaving like that and id certainly report it (annonamously) lol

bigsinky

says the license dodger. you tight pikey ****

suBruce

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Les, that's a complicated version of the explanation but I know what your getting at.

In all honesty if some plod thinks they can play about with you that much I say boll@$ks. Give me 3 points and £60 you waste of police time.

Despite speeding being an "actual offense" or whatever they call them, if your making reasonable safe progress and plod thinks they want to up this months taking and justify there do nothing salary then then thats what solicitors are for.

Now I might sound like a complete chav in what I'm saying here but I assure you I'm not, I don't drive down the third lane (or fast lane) to put it in chav, at 100and something, I instead utilize all lanes and in doing so try to make reasonable progress. I am NOT for drifting along at 70mph trying to overtake someone else whose drifting along the 2nd lane for the next 400miles doing 68mph who is in turn overtaking a wagon driver whose limited to 56. (maximum respect here to HGV drivers) So I say make your overtaking manouver at whatever speed is safe something up to 80 maybe more temporarily, pass them, get clear, indicate move to the left and any plod who has a problem can go swivel.

80% of them, particularly motorway would deem this to be more than acceptable.

Lets not get pedantic about the actual law and instead use some common sense, for starters most solicitors would pull some magna carta spiel out and you'd be sorted. Lol. Probley not actually given 5mph would seem ridiculous in C13th.

Leslie

I don't disagree with you about the safety bit at all.

Yes they should not slow you down unnecessarily of course and I would find that pretty annoying too. Wonder what he was up to.

I would not want the 3 points though, costs more than you think,especially when the insurance co. finds out. Don't feel like giving them £60 for nothing either. I could fill the tank for that!

I was just trying to point out that bit about speedo's and the 10% error bit in case someone had the wrong idea, The speedo is only allowed to over read with respect to your real speed anyway. As far as I know the 10% leeway in excess of the speed limit is purely in case the cops measuring equipment is not dead accurate. Some forces will not go along with that which is purely a suggested leeway by the Chief Constables' association. They are the ones who will do you for 1 mph over the limit!

Les

billythekid

Rolling block should be done with a motorway / fast road spec vehicle really - not a panda..

Officer should be trained too, and if you try and pass that officer will put you in the barrier. Rolling blocks are serious, and you dont mess about, lights stay on, matrix board will say HOLD BACK or similar.

Weaving in and out flicking the blues on and off at people is taking the p1ss, even more so on a fast road in a low spec vehicle.

Boro

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Sounds like this guy was just on a power trip the more I read about it. I thought it was odd at the time and was expecting an accident up front for ages, until I realised he was just playing god.

I did wonder whether there was protocol for carrying out a rolling road block.

joz8968

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Most county's forces allow either just 10% over, or more commonly, 10% + 2mph (Essex police for example). But this is obviously not law - just that the police, and sensibly so, allow for a bit of leeway (too inaccurate speedo/larger-than-OEM rolling radius, etc.).

That said, and if you're particuarly unlucky, then technically you're still able to get tugged for doing just 1mph over the posted limit - although highly unlikely - by a '****' officer.

Boro

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Got a reply from the police today.

Unsurprisingly, the vehicle log wasn't filled out this day. It seems this particular copper is above such menial tasks!

Bugatti

Do they mean to say they don't know which officer had the vehicle?
Can you imagine if a business said the same about one of their cars had it got done by a speed camera.

skoobidude

There's a road near city centre of where I live with a small section of dual carriageway directly off an island. The dual carriage way bit is about a quarter mile long before merging into single lane again. Hence, most locals dont tend to use the outside lane as people tend to cut in at last minute and battle with ***** on the inside speeding up, trying to stop them..
Anyway the whole road is national speed limit but most tend to do around 40mph as there's usually someone dawdling. The other day as a came off the island I noticed a police car in the inside lane amongst all the traffic ahead. I spotted a gap further up and decided to gun it to 70 knowing I'd easily get back in without any drama. I took great pleasure passing the cop accelerating hard with exhaust valves open . In a way I wanted him to stop me as I would have argued that I'd done nothing wrong and used the outer lane as intended. He didn't, so there are good cops too!
Not quite on topic but these small sections of dual carriageways are often not used due to ***** cutting each other up whilst merging back in. Almost some local rules not to go onto certain sections of road

Nick

boomer

So said copper didn't use the radio at all that day, didn't have to justify his location at any time, didn't need to request or report the use of a blue light????

I think that you need to take this much further - it sounds like much more than just abusing his (her?) position, but more a systemic cover-up. I am sure that the press would be very interested in the lack of accountability by those who "must secure the willing co-operation of the public in voluntary observation of the law to be able to secure and maintain the respect of the public"!

mb

Felix.

The police cars have 'black box's' fitted to them all, so it is possible to find out who was driving at a given time.

Still seems a bit bizare for him to do this for no reason.

Boro

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The person who's been emailing me has said he is now going to check the CCTV at the police station he drove to and look at the security guards log of which cars went in and out that morning.

Should be interesting to hear the next excuse why they can't identify the driver!

Boro

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Oh surprise!!!

Boro

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Have I opened a can of worms here. The police are adamant this car wasn't in use at the time this happened and have given me details on when it was logged in/out...

Something doesn't add up! There is no way a) I would have got the registration wrong after sitting behind him for so long and b) Even IF I did get it wrong, what would be the chances of it been the same make/model/colour AND a police car lol.

Has the log been doctored because this copper knew I wasn't happy when I followed him into Middlemoor HQ???!!!!

billythekid

I guess the officer did not have his radio on. If he did its very easy to see who it was, just look back on the gps logs for that area at that date / time. The car will have black box but wont tell you who was driving. As they were looking for log book entry I guess they are scuppered.

What the black box would do though is corroborate your story and also the use of the warning systems etc etc.

I am starting to wonder if it was a demo car? As it new?

Boro

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Here's what I think happened, call me a conspiracy theorist lol.

Copper acts like a tw@t driving on the dual carriageway, p!sses loads of people off and one follows him to his destination, which just happens to be the southwest headquarters.

He sees me follow him in and get out of the car to have a word but by then he's through security and gone.

He gets back to the police station after not booking out the car like he should and either a) gets the next person to book it out at 10pm on the previous booked in mileage OR does it himself.

Either way, there is no way the car could have gone from booked in mileage of 128807 on the 7/2/12 and still been on the same mileage when it was booked out at 10pm on the 9/2/12. Bearing in mind I was following it along the A30 for yonks at 9am-10am on the 9th!

Felix.

Ask about the black boxes - because potentially, there is a phony fully marked up police car with a duplicate reg doing the rounds, which they will need to investigate

Boro

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They have again checked the CCTV after I gave them a description of my car and the car that was behind me.

It seems he was checking the wrong entrance initially.

However, now that he's checked the right CCTV footage, he can clearly see me, my car and the focus police car but STILL can't read the registration number!!!

Only the AIR ID which surprisingly doesn't get assigned to specific cars and logged. They apparently just stick numbers on random cars!

So, he's apologised and said he's done all he can and "normally" officers travel at 60 to prevent exactly this happening.

Boro

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Got an update today. Turns out it was a "senior officer" and the guy dealing with my complaint can't deal with it so it's been escalated to chief inspector or superintendent!

Time for the **** to hit the fan lol

joz8968

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stedee

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class

ScoobyWon't

It's going nowhere

pimmo2000

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Why's that ?

ScoobyWon't

Inspector isn't a senior rank. It's not even half way up the ranks. The complaint would have gone to a duty sergeant first, then escalated to an inspector if needed.

A sergeant isn't going to drop an inspector in the **** if his next promotion depends on it. An inspector won't drop another inspector in it as they need allies to carry on up the ladder (unless they want to shaft him to put him out of contention).

Best to go to the IPCC

boomer

But Boro said "chief inspector or superintendent"!

mb