Is it worth owning a Scoob any more?
10 January 2012, 08:43 PM
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I use mine as a daily driver and see it as a treat to myself - I work hard as many others do so deserve it.
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I guess I could get a cheaper car , cheaper to run, insure , tax and look after but I like my Subaru and everything it stands for. After a hard day at work there are few things more pleasing than getting in the car and enjoying it.
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I guess I could get a cheaper car , cheaper to run, insure , tax and look after but I like my Subaru and everything it stands for. After a hard day at work there are few things more pleasing than getting in the car and enjoying it.
I'm lucky though, a Shell next to work so I almost have to use it as a daily driver just in case I run out and I wasn't expecting it.
11 January 2012, 12:46 AM
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Sure a quick search on "store locator" on the Tesco website will tell you where the petrol stations are. Make a note of who sells Momentum and Bob Rawles's your uncle
I'll have mine mapped for Tesco 99 as Shell is/was more expensive
11 January 2012, 05:40 AM
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I'd just swap to Tesco, Jeff. There's plenty of them around.
Sure a quick search on "store locator" on the Tesco website will tell you where the petrol stations are. Make a note of who sells Momentum and Bob Rawles's your uncle
I'll have mine mapped for Tesco 99 as Shell is/was more expensive
Sure a quick search on "store locator" on the Tesco website will tell you where the petrol stations are. Make a note of who sells Momentum and Bob Rawles's your uncle
I'll have mine mapped for Tesco 99 as Shell is/was more expensive
1. They are often out of 99.
2. They can't/won't tell you when more is due.
3. Phoning ahead is impossible...ever tried to phone Tesco, let alone the petrol stations....?
11 January 2012, 06:37 AM
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I used to have to do a 40 mile round trip for v power before tesco started supplying there momentum 99, i didnt mind, was an excuse to go for a rewarding drive 
11 January 2012, 10:03 AM
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1. In my experience as a regular Momentum customer, in the last 9-10 trips (I brim the tank every Thursday/Friday), there's only been one time they were out. For that one time I would have a bottle of octane booster ready and top up with that mate with normal unleaded.
2. True and I find it a bit daft
3. I haven't, no. But surely within a reasonable distance not every station that sells it will run out on the same day?
Anyway to consider getting rid of a recently built Subaru that cost you a 5 figure sum to build to your own desired spec because fuel came be a pain to purchase sometimes is madness. I'd rather get the car mapped again for normal unleaded or have Bob Rawle add another map, one for 99 and one for 97/95 (Esso super or any normal unleaded).
The above is what I would personally do before even contemplating anything silly like selling or leaving the marque.
11 January 2012, 06:41 PM
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Unless you're nailing the car everywhere it doesn't matter a toss what fuel you use.
You are not going to damage your engine by putting a tenners worth of 95 in it if you drive it sensibly.
The only time you will damage an engine is when you're on extended WOT at full boost with **** fuel.
I'd be quite happy to drive my car from Lands end to Home on 95 if that was the only fuel available. I'd just drive my car accordingly.
I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Tesco was empty of momentum last night but I've been today and filled up. So if at anytime they are out of momentum you can just pop down the road to Esso and put 97 in or indeed 95 that will get you by until the tanker arrives at Tesco
You are not going to damage your engine by putting a tenners worth of 95 in it if you drive it sensibly.
The only time you will damage an engine is when you're on extended WOT at full boost with **** fuel.
I'd be quite happy to drive my car from Lands end to Home on 95 if that was the only fuel available. I'd just drive my car accordingly.
I think you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Tesco was empty of momentum last night but I've been today and filled up. So if at anytime they are out of momentum you can just pop down the road to Esso and put 97 in or indeed 95 that will get you by until the tanker arrives at Tesco
11 January 2012, 08:33 PM
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I never said I would get rid, Andy, just wondering if it's all worth it any more?
Maybe I've grown out of the car: I rarely, if ever, use ANY of the performance now, and if I do, I worry about knock, fuel consumption etc etc
I see your point Daz, I'll have to see how it goes.
What's decent O/B? Richtoy sell Silkolene and Wynnes.
The guy there tried to tell me that using 99 RON in a mapped Scoob is an advisory only and 95 will do no harm at all.
And with a LINK, I can't have two switchable maps
Maybe I've grown out of the car: I rarely, if ever, use ANY of the performance now, and if I do, I worry about knock, fuel consumption etc etc
I see your point Daz, I'll have to see how it goes.
What's decent O/B? Richtoy sell Silkolene and Wynnes.
The guy there tried to tell me that using 99 RON in a mapped Scoob is an advisory only and 95 will do no harm at all.
And with a LINK, I can't have two switchable maps
11 January 2012, 08:49 PM
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I never said I would get rid, Andy, just wondering if it's all worth it any more?
Maybe I've grown out of the car: I rarely, if ever, use ANY of the performance now, and if I do, I worry about knock, fuel consumption etc etc
I see your point Daz, I'll have to see how it goes.
What's decent O/B? Richtoy sell Silkolene and Wynnes.
The guy there tried to tell me that using 99 RON in a mapped Scoob is an advisory only and 95 will do no harm at all.
And with a LINK, I can't have two switchable maps
Maybe I've grown out of the car: I rarely, if ever, use ANY of the performance now, and if I do, I worry about knock, fuel consumption etc etc
I see your point Daz, I'll have to see how it goes.
What's decent O/B? Richtoy sell Silkolene and Wynnes.
The guy there tried to tell me that using 99 RON in a mapped Scoob is an advisory only and 95 will do no harm at all.
And with a LINK, I can't have two switchable maps
11 January 2012, 09:21 PM
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I never said I would get rid, Andy, just wondering if it's all worth it any more?
Maybe I've grown out of the car: I rarely, if ever, use ANY of the performance now, and if I do, I worry about knock, fuel consumption etc etc
I see your point Daz, I'll have to see how it goes.
What's decent O/B? Richtoy sell Silkolene and Wynnes.
The guy there tried to tell me that using 99 RON in a mapped Scoob is an advisory only and 95 will do no harm at all.
And with a LINK, I can't have two switchable maps
Maybe I've grown out of the car: I rarely, if ever, use ANY of the performance now, and if I do, I worry about knock, fuel consumption etc etc
I see your point Daz, I'll have to see how it goes.
What's decent O/B? Richtoy sell Silkolene and Wynnes.
The guy there tried to tell me that using 99 RON in a mapped Scoob is an advisory only and 95 will do no harm at all.
And with a LINK, I can't have two switchable maps
Maybe its not worth having a Subaru any more but plenty of people still do. Have you not thought about doing a driving day with it to ise its potential safely, both road/engine wise? Or just going for a bloody good drive somewhere?
13 January 2012, 01:01 AM
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40 mile round trip for 99 doesnt bother me half as much as getting there and paying 149 a litre.....
and i find that my remapped 05 sti runs very lumpy on straight 95 at any revs, kinda stuttery up top on 97 and fine on 97 plus OB or straight 99
no way id run mine every day these days, back in '04 i did 26000 miles in my classic and worked out it cost me £7500 in fuel alone and thats when it was 80p a litre....
and i find that my remapped 05 sti runs very lumpy on straight 95 at any revs, kinda stuttery up top on 97 and fine on 97 plus OB or straight 99
no way id run mine every day these days, back in '04 i did 26000 miles in my classic and worked out it cost me £7500 in fuel alone and thats when it was 80p a litre....
13 January 2012, 11:08 AM
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Before mods, my old UK classic ran it with no issues and dynoed at 240bhp which isn't bad, considering it was supposed to 208bhp.
You also benefit from a fuel with a slightly higher calorific value (more energy per litre), which offsets any bhp/mpg loss.
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