So much for Apple's much fabled "it just works" quality of service....

https://discussions.apple.com/thread...art=0&tstart=0
http://www.techradar.com/news/comput...-in-uk-1048652
http://technorati.com/technology/clo...ter-uk-launch/
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2011...n_1152971.html

Merry Christmas BTW

 

Sheep dont need to use 3G
I will add, your not actually paying for 3G, you are paying for network coverage, thats what all networks say, if you can text or make a call, its coverage.
Though if you are moving to Orange, note that they are replacing all their kit with Huawei kit, google them before you want to put any calls across a network they have access to (more back doors than in a gay bar )

Tony

 

Soooooo, its easy to figure out Jack, AAC is compressed to 256kbps, CD runs at around 1400kbps, lets do the math should we?
Quality sucks and you are paying £21 quid for it, Apple shaft their customers again for something they dont really need (but it is better quality than MP3's, so you can have that )

Tony

 

Now Tony, I download a 256kbps file from Apple and you make one from CD, why does mine sound better. I don't want, need or have the capacity for anything more than 256kbps.

I can't believe anyone thinks the £21 is somehow a rip off, it's like a Pirate amnesty.

 

Well it's funny that you should blame my iPhone as my works Nokia also suffers from 3G dropout as well; and guess what network that's on? Hmm that would O2 as well, so it's not the device it's the network.

 

And I quote from the iTunes Match thread:

So which is it then? Being a bit economical with the truth there somewhere Jack

Jack stop being ridiculous, it is a 256kbps file and hence it cannot be intrinsically better than any other 256kbps file regardless of whether they come from a CD or the Master as both sources are much higher quality than the 256 file. It may sound different due to the way it is compressed from one or other source but that has nothing to do with the fact it is a Master or a CD source and everything to do with how the actual compession is done.

You are only saying this because you read it in the comments of the page you linked to above anyway. And of course as you read it on the Internet it must be true

 

Would that be Apple or Welsh sheep by any chance?

So you mean to tell me that my iPhone tariff doesn't by implication include 3G access? Well that's a bit of a joke then.

If O2 can't get 3G right then how are they going to cope with 4G or whatever the next mobile data standard is going to be? I think they should start with two tin cans and a length of string and see how they go from there.

As for Orange at least you can get 3G access, after all as they say 'Any port in a storm' or 'Any hole is a goal'.

 

And still he carries on, I know the telly's **** but can't you have a game of monopoly instead.

So, I said "I know pretty much nothing" about something and I also said "not knowing it's full feature set" what's the problem? How's that in any way economical with the truth? I knew a couple of key features, I bleated about them on here when they were announced, I was right, they're great.

I would never take your advice when it comes to formats, sound or video, you've proved your incompetence and ranted about it to anyone like it or not.

 

let's look at market share. thread closed merry Christmas

 

P's your ears will not know the difference between 96k 128k or 256k on a phone, that's what audio equipment is for

 

What's the point in talking about 4g on the galaxy nexus?
By the time 4g becomes available for the masses the nexus will be old hardware anyway, it's pointless a bit like this whole argument

 

Couldn't care less what you think of me, you've proved yourself to be both a fibber and a dimwit on this thread and I have no time for people who are either of those let alone both.

LOL .... 256k samples better if they come from master rather than CD... still laughing over how monumentally f**king stupid that thought process is, but that is just it... you don't really understand this stuff... you just read Apple 'propaganda' and regurgitate it! Well as long as it makes you happy

 

Have a look at the thread title and what you're ranting about. You'd pop up on an RIP thread to let everyone know how **** Apple is. Get some pills.

 

So what was your motivation for posting the thread in the first place Jack? LOL!

 

To spark debate related to the subject matter, you know stuff that normal people do.

 

Yeah whatever you say Jack LOL! There is nothing normal about you!

 

There's a whole thread for iTunes Match, I'd be happy to read about your experiences with it. I had a look at your articles, it was busy when launched, such a game changing service is bound to be, I can assure you it's fine now. Probably as quick as torrents.

 

Cream Cakes suck! I don't know how you can eat them, they're evil poison. Notice how I've posted an angry message nothing to do with the thread. That's you that is.

 

Jack Clark is a really cool guy with no interest in baiting anyone about Apple vs Samsung. See how I just posted something fundamentally untrue... That's you that is!

 

It certainly is game changing, but it is fast becoming a digital monopoly which is not a good thing for the music industry and will inevitably bring in a whole list of other problems.

 

This thread is really getting bad now, it's like a bloody school playground!

 

Im just laughing at how Jack thinks a lossy media is better than a lossless media and he is still getting shafted £21 quid by apple for it
Anyway, back to the original topic, I proved apple did that first to its iphone 2/3G owners with iOS4

Tony

 

TBH, i noticed a drop in performance after loading ios5 on my 3GS, its more sluggish now doing tasks, where as on 4 it was atleast quickish, there is a noticable delay on 5.
Of course we could go on about android "hacks" to make ICS run on the S2, thats just bodged software according to Jack, no mention of jail breaking Iphones so that you can run software on there that apple dont want you to

I do have to say that it doesnt bother me about ICS, ive not had my S2 long (new works phone, replaces my iphone 4), its much nicer than the 4, lighter, better screen, faster etc, the only down side is the lack of built in memory it comes with(out) and the fact I had to replace my sim card as apple use some crappy micro sim

Tony

 

ICS is going to be officialy released for the S2 Do people not read properly

 

I'm not in any way getting shafted I'm making money and my 256kbps files sound better than yours made from CD. Fact.

Everyone has to at some point stop supporting hardware, but Tony, Apple do wait until the phone is off the shelves, people are still buying Samsung phones.

 

Now I know why you're so pissy, sorry to hear that, it's horrible when it happens. Quite funny that your old phone will be current for longer than your new one!

 

Absolute complete and utter bollocks!

Anyone reading this who isn't a moron please take no notice of this statement as it's Apple propaganda at its best!

 

I never finished the post that Tony has quoted (as can be seen as it stops mid post) as my Windows netbook froze during entry.

But I didn't bother coming back to it as I don't want to post anymore on these Apple/Android 'debates', tbh life is too short and I've got better things to be getting on with.

We all have our own favourites, we all know we made the best choice; so let's just leave it there shall we? But that's about as likely as the moon being made of cheese.

 

still going on?

guys stop bickering on the internet and spend your time with your family ffs

 

Please feel free to comment on pretty much anything, but when it comes to formats you've proved your incompetence. My 256kbps files from iTunes do sound better than the 256kbps files I created myself, I've now replaced them.