How do you afford childcare ?
Could be even worse - we used to pay £1600 a month for our two in the local (fantastic) nursery. It got better when the first one began going to the nursery attached to our local school at 4 years old and now that both (7 and 8 years old now) are in the local state primary it's like having got rid of a big mortgage- even though we have taken on an au pair. No grandparents or family near by.
If you have the room (and (Luan pra Bang) an extra bedroom plus food etc costs a **** lot extra in London) the au pair route works out well. We pay our girl £75 a week plus gym membership (got to keep her looking fit
) and she works 4 days a week - gets them brekkie, takes them to and from school, makes dinner, helps with homework does all their washing, plays with them, etc. Mrs FB doesn't work on Fridays so the girl gets a long weekend. Our au pair is a really nice 19 year old german girl who our two adore and view as a quasi big sister so it works well for us.
If you have the room (and (Luan pra Bang) an extra bedroom plus food etc costs a **** lot extra in London) the au pair route works out well. We pay our girl £75 a week plus gym membership (got to keep her looking fit
) and she works 4 days a week - gets them brekkie, takes them to and from school, makes dinner, helps with homework does all their washing, plays with them, etc. Mrs FB doesn't work on Fridays so the girl gets a long weekend. Our au pair is a really nice 19 year old german girl who our two adore and view as a quasi big sister so it works well for us.All the sites I have found on Google have an American bias.
www.greataupair.com
Ignore the septics and Filipinos and you will find someone here - worked for us a couple of times - in both cases found excellent local girls.
Ignore the septics and Filipinos and you will find someone here - worked for us a couple of times - in both cases found excellent local girls.
Tough it out lads its worth it trust me-my wife and i have been skint since the day they were born our two are beginning to leave there mother and me behind
And that gentlemen
Is what we are here for
p.s if you have a daughter or son bring them a sweet or comic every friday night( never forget this ever)
you have no idea what it means to them
iain
And that gentlemen
Is what we are here for
p.s if you have a daughter or son bring them a sweet or comic every friday night( never forget this ever)
you have no idea what it means to them
iain
It IS tough - ours are a little older now, but it was very difficult to make ends meet.
We ended up with FT child-minding as it was the cheaper option (although the child-minder had to endure OFSTED inspections etc etc)
The upside was aside from the financial aspect, a smaller amount of kids, so more 1:1 contact.
The downside was when the child-minder was ill, MAJOR issues with getting cover.
We did have parents to call on, but due to my own sense of independence, we never called on them unless it was a REAL emergency.
They were more than happy with this (being dubbed "super-subs"
), as it meant in their retirement, they weren't our child-care.
My eldest has just started Secondary school, with my youngest in her 2nd year at Primary.
I'm VERY lucky that my working day is done by 4pm, and Wifey works shifts.
The only thing we take advantage of now is "Breakfast Club" - £1 per day. When we both can't make it home to pick up youngest (eldest walks from the bus home - a reassurance of Countryside living imho), Super-Subs kick in, or In-Laws have now moved to the area, and have missed out on some of the growing up, so are more than willing to help (their house is also on the way home from work!)
So, my only advice is that yes, it is VERY expensive (even with the "cheaper" child-minder, nearly one of our wages was covering just that!), it doesn't last forever.....
But it does involve some serious conversations and decision-making about the next 5-6 years and its affect on your lifestyle.
(No doubt people will tell you, "Having a baby changes EVERYTHING" - rubbish: that will only happen if you let it. Personally, we found compromise, life did change but not in a bad way and under our own rules - kids fitted around that mostly!).
But it does get better
Good luck
Dan
We ended up with FT child-minding as it was the cheaper option (although the child-minder had to endure OFSTED inspections etc etc)
The upside was aside from the financial aspect, a smaller amount of kids, so more 1:1 contact.
The downside was when the child-minder was ill, MAJOR issues with getting cover.
We did have parents to call on, but due to my own sense of independence, we never called on them unless it was a REAL emergency.
They were more than happy with this (being dubbed "super-subs"
), as it meant in their retirement, they weren't our child-care.My eldest has just started Secondary school, with my youngest in her 2nd year at Primary.
I'm VERY lucky that my working day is done by 4pm, and Wifey works shifts.
The only thing we take advantage of now is "Breakfast Club" - £1 per day. When we both can't make it home to pick up youngest (eldest walks from the bus home - a reassurance of Countryside living imho), Super-Subs kick in, or In-Laws have now moved to the area, and have missed out on some of the growing up, so are more than willing to help (their house is also on the way home from work!)
So, my only advice is that yes, it is VERY expensive (even with the "cheaper" child-minder, nearly one of our wages was covering just that!), it doesn't last forever.....
But it does involve some serious conversations and decision-making about the next 5-6 years and its affect on your lifestyle.
(No doubt people will tell you, "Having a baby changes EVERYTHING" - rubbish: that will only happen if you let it. Personally, we found compromise, life did change but not in a bad way and under our own rules - kids fitted around that mostly!).
But it does get better

Good luck
Dan
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We've had 5 german girls in a row now ( so to speak) and they have all been stereotypically reliable and punctual if a bit literal at times, but overall great.
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and today the little one has an eye infection so the nursery wont take her in .. I still have to pay for the day and take time off work ..
Not great ..
Not great ..
At the end of the day you are paying for the place at the nursery. If you didn't pay today someone else would take your place and you'd have to wait until another child drops out. Worth it in the long run.
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I stand corrected, they took her in on the condition I would be there if her eye gunks up .. which is fair enough .. I got the whole health and safety speech
I guess people must argue with them about having to come get their kids ..
I don't want my kids catching things, so don't expect mine to be in if their ill ..
I guess people must argue with them about having to come get their kids .. I don't want my kids catching things, so don't expect mine to be in if their ill ..
They used to administer eye drops/antibiotics in our nursery no problem, although the trots or anything like that was a +24 hours situation.
Coincidentally, my daughter has gone into school today with conjunctivitis, but they won't give her drops (elf and safety) but this is where the au pair is handy (and the school is nearby) as she will go to the school twice during the day to do the eyedrops.
Coincidentally, my daughter has gone into school today with conjunctivitis, but they won't give her drops (elf and safety) but this is where the au pair is handy (and the school is nearby) as she will go to the school twice during the day to do the eyedrops.
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