Angry cyclist or bad motorists?
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lol I would go so far to say there will never be harmony on the roads. Driving tests are too easy, cyclists lawless, penalties too soft, and drivers and riders too distracted.a
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This guy appeared in another thread aout cyclists, and I commented then that I thought he was an accident waiting to happen
I ride a bicycle and a motorbike, both in heavy city traffic, and in my opinion there is more wrong with his riding than the driving around him
They do. My Grandad, rest his soul, got fined for it many years ago
He was quite proud of it
I ride a bicycle and a motorbike, both in heavy city traffic, and in my opinion there is more wrong with his riding than the driving around him
He was quite proud of it
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This guy appeared in another thread aout cyclists, and I commented then that I thought he was an accident waiting to happen
I ride a bicycle and a motorbike, both in heavy city traffic, and in my opinion there is more wrong with his riding than the driving around him
They do. My Grandad, rest his soul, got fined for it many years ago
He was quite proud of it
I ride a bicycle and a motorbike, both in heavy city traffic, and in my opinion there is more wrong with his riding than the driving around him
They do. My Grandad, rest his soul, got fined for it many years ago
He was quite proud of it
Its arrogant comments like 'it doesnt count' just demonstrate how much of a danger he is.
Driver checks mirrors, sees cyclist way off, makes turn. Why should the driver have to factor in that cyclists can go as fast as they want?
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You’re causing*traffic
Something I’ve had shouted at me as vehicles pass me or been told on other occasions. Statements like this show the stupidity and naivety of people who shout them.
For starters, the definition of traffic is not vehicles being held up or stationary but in fact just describes any vehicle on the road. So I am traffic, as are you and that is without other vehicles behind you.
Something I’ve had shouted at me as vehicles pass me or been told on other occasions. Statements like this show the stupidity and naivety of people who shout them.
For starters, the definition of traffic is not vehicles being held up or stationary but in fact just describes any vehicle on the road. So I am traffic, as are you and that is without other vehicles behind you.
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I think he is kind of a cycling cross between a Militant Lesbian, looking for offence where there is non and a diving footballer rolling around on the floor clutching a perfectly healthy leg.
Some of it is a bit dodgy, I get some close overtakes, can live with it as a lot of the time they are nice cars that seem to be being driven reasonably well, they probably don't want a fat lump and a big scratchy bike on their P and J so put it down to perhaps them being reasonably skilled and perhaps a little impatient but not life threatening, its the fast overtakes I don't like, close pass by a car or motorbike at say fifty plus is pretty alarming.
React when it is a problem and don't berate drivers just because you can "Don't you know about the door zone" makes you sound a right *****, of course they dont, they dont rant on cycling forums, just say I was out a bit in case someone opened a door when presented by some road captain telling you how to ride, also, think whether they are perhaps right and you are being a ****.
Some of it is a bit dodgy, I get some close overtakes, can live with it as a lot of the time they are nice cars that seem to be being driven reasonably well, they probably don't want a fat lump and a big scratchy bike on their P and J so put it down to perhaps them being reasonably skilled and perhaps a little impatient but not life threatening, its the fast overtakes I don't like, close pass by a car or motorbike at say fifty plus is pretty alarming.
React when it is a problem and don't berate drivers just because you can "Don't you know about the door zone" makes you sound a right *****, of course they dont, they dont rant on cycling forums, just say I was out a bit in case someone opened a door when presented by some road captain telling you how to ride, also, think whether they are perhaps right and you are being a ****.
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Cyclists can be a pain in the ****, I know, I am referring to the weekend road warriors who prowl in packs at 15/20 mph, 2 or 3 abreast, I got held up at the weekend for a little while and its a bit aggravating but not worth endangering anyone's safety or your own license or liberty.
Just sounds like club riders - 3 abreast is wrong, 2 abreast is fine according to the Highway Code (although it makes sense not to do it narrow roads etc).
As far as the cyclist above is concerned, ****'ead on a mission! If I swore everytime a bus came alongside a bit close I'd be a right potty mouth too! There was a fair bit of scarey driving though! I do get a fair number of peeps pulling out on me I'd have to say.
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Hey J4cko.
Just sounds like club riders - 3 abreast is wrong, 2 abreast is fine according to the Highway Code (although it makes sense not to do it narrow roads etc).
As far as the cyclist above is concerned, ****'ead on a mission! If I swore everytime a bus came alongside a bit close I'd be a right potty mouth too! There was a fair bit of scarey driving though! I do get a fair number of peeps pulling out on me I'd have to say.
Andy
Just sounds like club riders - 3 abreast is wrong, 2 abreast is fine according to the Highway Code (although it makes sense not to do it narrow roads etc).
As far as the cyclist above is concerned, ****'ead on a mission! If I swore everytime a bus came alongside a bit close I'd be a right potty mouth too! There was a fair bit of scarey driving though! I do get a fair number of peeps pulling out on me I'd have to say.
Andy
This guy does seem to go out looking for an opportunity to get some good footage but drivers would do well to remember that they are out there, cameras rolling, ready to record any transgression, most will be non events but it is easy nowadays for an isolated incident to become the next Youtube sensation.
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I have the pleasure of living on part of the 2012 olympic cycle route, oh the joys of the lycra clad weekend warriors that decend to test themselves.
The thing that is getting a little annoying is the competition to see who can fit the brightest lights to their bike or head, some of them are quite blinding, sometimes brighter than my bug.
The thing that is getting a little annoying is the competition to see who can fit the brightest lights to their bike or head, some of them are quite blinding, sometimes brighter than my bug.
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I sometimes take a camera with me on my daily commute and yes, sometimes there are *****-headed dipsticks behind the wheel but on the whole, I rarely find myself in situations like the above. I've posted a couple on youtube myself but those were "special" drivers
I think the video maker in this instance has got issues. I also think he needs to learn how to be more assertive on the road without being confrontational, if that makes sense! His use of lanes and road-positioning is poor for defensive riding and there are ways to stop people pulling out/across on you (eyeballing, pointing etc).
People will always pass close to you and as long as you understand what is dangerous (like the scooterist leaning into me as he went past or the PSV driver who deliberately bumped into the back of my bike at traffic lights after having tried to force me into the curb in a buslane) then life is much better.
I'm quite assertive myself when riding but considerate - yes, I will hog a buslane if I see a car parked ahead and know the person behind me won't get past in time, but I will pull in (if safe to do so) just after it. Its about knowing what you can and can't do.
I don't RLJ or pavement hop either, so ner
I think the video maker in this instance has got issues. I also think he needs to learn how to be more assertive on the road without being confrontational, if that makes sense! His use of lanes and road-positioning is poor for defensive riding and there are ways to stop people pulling out/across on you (eyeballing, pointing etc).
People will always pass close to you and as long as you understand what is dangerous (like the scooterist leaning into me as he went past or the PSV driver who deliberately bumped into the back of my bike at traffic lights after having tried to force me into the curb in a buslane) then life is much better.
I'm quite assertive myself when riding but considerate - yes, I will hog a buslane if I see a car parked ahead and know the person behind me won't get past in time, but I will pull in (if safe to do so) just after it. Its about knowing what you can and can't do.
I don't RLJ or pavement hop either, so ner
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Just read his taxi driver page on his website and watched his taxi driver compilation video. He is a self righteous little pr1ck and how the hell he has got this far without someone giving a good working over is beyond me.... it will happen!!! Not reading any more as frankly I find it scary there are people like him riding around thinking they are God's gift to the roads - all the more reason cyclists need some form of licensing... like dogs
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I know cyclists are rarely the cause of accidents and even when they are they usually come off worse but surely expectng them to have some form of road licence and basic insirance is not a bad idea. It doesn't have to cost the earth either, we all know a car can do way more damage and is more of a liability, but cyclists aren't perfect either!
It also might calm people like Gaz down a bit to.... removing the cloak of anonymity and all that!
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As far as the legalities go, I am aware that the road traffic act does not cover bicycles for speeding, but you can be nicked for dangerous or furious riding as you say, and by his examples, he more than likely actually could be prosecuted for it.
With regards to you CANT be nicked for exceeding the speed limit, again you CAN, but not as a specific charge of speeding, but the speed could be legally used to demonstrate either of the above two offences.
I agree that cyclists need some accountability when on the roads, and people like Gaz are great examples of why. Thinking they are within their rights to thump a cab or a van because they take offence to it being there!
Puff, im glad you are not as militant as Gaz lol, and it sounds like you have a lot of experience. From my own experience my views are similar to yours, there are some truly special drivers out there, and some pretty special cyclists too. But this guy just looks for trouble, and makes trouble from nothing. The cabbie at the end is a great example.
I too am shocked he has not taken a serious beating yet. One is bound to be on the cards sooner or later.
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I wish people would stop confusing Insurance and Liability.
All insurance does is allow you (the individual) to not have to pay huge amounts of money when something goes wrong. A lack of insurance does not mean a lack of liability.
If you are injured by someone and you seek recompense for damages, it is the individual who pays. Now he may have an insurance policy that he uses to pay for the damages but it is the individual that is responsible.
All these calls for cyclists to have insurance completely misses the point - it doesn't MATTER if they have insurance or not when it comes to whether they are liable or not, it's just how they pay.
However, it would be sensible for regular cycle commuters to have public liability insurance as a minimum for those occasions when things go wrong and it's their fault. You know: just in case.
All insurance does is allow you (the individual) to not have to pay huge amounts of money when something goes wrong. A lack of insurance does not mean a lack of liability.
If you are injured by someone and you seek recompense for damages, it is the individual who pays. Now he may have an insurance policy that he uses to pay for the damages but it is the individual that is responsible.
All these calls for cyclists to have insurance completely misses the point - it doesn't MATTER if they have insurance or not when it comes to whether they are liable or not, it's just how they pay.
However, it would be sensible for regular cycle commuters to have public liability insurance as a minimum for those occasions when things go wrong and it's their fault. You know: just in case.
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Problem is though when it comes to claiming for someones liability. Insurance to insurance is easy, but a cyclist taking your mirror off is another matter.
Armed with the knowledge of how difficult they are to trace, I honestly feel some cyclist think they can behave as they please.
I know car to car accidents can be just as much grief, but thats not what we are talking about lol.
Liability insurance would be a great idea
Armed with the knowledge of how difficult they are to trace, I honestly feel some cyclist think they can behave as they please.
I know car to car accidents can be just as much grief, but thats not what we are talking about lol.
Liability insurance would be a great idea
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Well as was said, the only real answer is to all live with each other on the road. That consideration should go both ways of course.
Cyclists should obey road traffic rules of course and I get annoyed at them cycling along the footpath which is against the law, and sometimes they are going pretty fast too.
By the same token, when overtaking a cyclist I think one should give adequate room as you do it because 'bikes can get into a wobble for reasons beyond the control of the rider and they can move a fair distance sideways in such a case. It is also alarming for the cyclist of course if he gets an "Oldsmobile Pass".
As ever-live and let live!
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Cyclists should obey road traffic rules of course and I get annoyed at them cycling along the footpath which is against the law, and sometimes they are going pretty fast too.
By the same token, when overtaking a cyclist I think one should give adequate room as you do it because 'bikes can get into a wobble for reasons beyond the control of the rider and they can move a fair distance sideways in such a case. It is also alarming for the cyclist of course if he gets an "Oldsmobile Pass".
As ever-live and let live!
Les
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