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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 11:57 AM
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Probably worth getting some insurance then.


Oh, and some tax whilst you're at it
You misunderstand - this is when I am in my (taxed and insured) car!
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 11:58 AM
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I have lost count how many times I have had to either slow down or swerve to avoid a car.
The difference is that Gear Head has paid to be on the road, you haven't so get out of the f**king way
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:04 PM
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See above.

He hasn't paid though he. He has paid to pollute our children
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles
http://youtu.be/QSiBVTtrS1w

Just thought I'd add this one for the entertainment of all who frequent scoobynet. Reading out number plates to himself, he ought to concentrate on the road.
What a complete and utter bell end!!!! Most of the incidents in that video weren't even worth looking at let alone yelling about like a moron!!! More helmet cam hero psychology at work! The cab driver at the end absolutely has him bang to rights!!!

He had better never try driving in Indonesia, he'd have a heart attack and last 2 seconds .... would be f**king funny actually!
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
What a complete and utter bell end!!!! Most of the incidents in that video weren't even worth looking at let alone yelling about like a moron!!! More helmet cam hero psychology at work! The cab driver at the end absolutely has him bang to rights!!!

He had better never try driving in Indonesia, he'd have a heart attack and last 2 seconds .... would be f**king funny actually!
Kabul is the same, pushbikers are at risk of death all the time.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:24 PM
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The guy does himself no favours, but I don't agree the cab drive had him bang to rights at all.

If the cyclist could touch the cab, he was driving too close. I don't see how that can even be in question.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
The guy does himself no favours, but I don't agree the cab drive had him bang to rights at all.

If the cyclist could touch the cab, he was driving too close. I don't see how that can even be in question.
spot on!
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
The guy does himself no favours, but I don't agree the cab drive had him bang to rights at all.

If the cyclist could touch the cab, he was driving too close. I don't see how that can even be in question.
No too close would be if he had run him over. Touching distance... about perfect optimisation of road space in an area where traffic is dense I would say. I will bet he had to lean over as far as he dare to touch him anyway ... the guy is looking for trouble all the time. Bell end... end of discussion!
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 12:52 PM
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Not really, no - is there a language barrier here or something?
Yes, clearly.

Language, vision, perception, ego and power barriers all very evident here.


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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No too close would be if he had run him over. Touching distance... about perfect optimisation of road space in an area where traffic is dense I would say. I will bet he had to lean over as far as he dare to touch him anyway ... the guy is looking for trouble all the time. Bell end... end of discussion!
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_070314

give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211-215)

I think you will find that the above is the "end of discussion"

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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No too close would be if he had run him over. Touching distance... about perfect optimisation of road space in an area where traffic is dense I would say. I will bet he had to lean over as far as he dare to touch him anyway ... the guy is looking for trouble all the time. Bell end... end of discussion!
I agree he might be looking for trouble, but laws are laws - it does not mention in the highway code about dangerous overtaking when traffic is dense. It does however mention giving cyclists at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by The Zohan
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAn...code/DG_070314

give motorcyclists, cyclists and horse riders at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car (see Rules 211-215)

I think you will find that the above is the "end of discussion"
So arm distance then? On a two lane road this is about what you'd get for two cars beside each other one overtaking another.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:09 PM
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I agree he might be looking for trouble, but laws are laws - it does not mention in the highway code about dangerous overtaking when traffic is dense. It does however mention giving cyclists at least as much room as you would when overtaking a car.
Meanwhile back in the real world. Sorry, but you can moan on all you like, but at the end of the day we don't live in the Utopia of the highway code where you can drive a bus between vehicles when they are overtaking.... the cab driver gave him enough room end of. If he doesn't like it my suggestion is he gets off the road!!!

Seriously try driving in Asia and see how much room you get... you lot would forever he stopping to upload everything to You Tube LOL!

And like it or not you pay nothing to use the roads so have some respect for those of us who do!!!
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Originally Posted by Miniman
So arm distance then? On a two lane road this is about what you'd get for two cars beside each other one overtaking another.
Don't try and bring logic into it, they are devoid of it!
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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Unlike you, I am not moaning or getting angry. Simply stating facts, rather than your interpretation of them.

If he could touch the cab, the driver was too close. If he swevered or moved he would have clipped his handle bars, unless he had arms like a silverback. As you say, we can stop discussing that now.

As a high earner , I pay lots to use the roads as part of my income tax.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Miniman
So arm distance then? On a two lane road this is about what you'd get for two cars beside each other one overtaking another.
If you were driving your car and another car overtook, and you could reach out of your window and touch it......it would be to close. In fact, it might well have clipped your mirror.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Unlike you, I am not moaning or getting angry. Simply stating facts, rather than your interpretation of them.

If he could touch the cab, the driver was too close. If he swevered or moved he would have clipped his handle bars, unless he had arms like a silverback. As you say, we can stop discussing that now.

As a high earner , I pay lots to use the roads as part of my income tax.
Not getting angry, just espousing my opinion on self righteous cyclists or cyclists as we call them. Your facts as you call them are actually just opinions too... wrong ones as it happens!

Point is he didn't swerve or clip his handebars or such like and that logic is BS as you could say 'what if' no matter where he was on the road.

At the end of the day who's the one with the problem, the cab driver just getting on with it or the guy with the helmet cam uploading everything to You Tube and whining like a liitle girl ... clue ... it isn't the cabbie
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:27 PM
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And I am giving my opinion on knuckle dragging car drivers.

So, for you, as long as he didn't hit him then it was a safe overtake. Fair enough, I do understand what you are saying. I mean, you're wrong and it makes you look like a clown, but I do undertand you.

Lets move on from that now to more important issues, the cabbie has a bluetooth ear thing, clearly he is the one with problems or huge proportions. Only a clown would wear one.....wait a min, you have one too right?
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
Unlike you, I am not moaning or getting angry. Simply stating facts, rather than your interpretation of them.

If he could touch the cab, the driver was too close. If he swevered or moved he would have clipped his handle bars, unless he had arms like a silverback. As you say, we can stop discussing that now.

As a high earner , I pay lots to use the roads as part of my income tax.
Don't forget 'powerfully built'.
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by davyboy
If you were driving your car and another car overtook, and you could reach out of your window and touch it......it would be to close. In fact, it might well have clipped your mirror.
How long are your arms Davyboy? Can you reach your **** for a p1ss?
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And I am giving my opinion on normal people who pay to use the roads and are going about their business quite sensibly.
EFA

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So, for you, as long as he didn't hit him then it was a safe overtake. Fair enough, I do understand what you are saying. I mean, you're wrong and it makes you look like a clown, but I do undertand you.
I am saying it was nowehere near as bad as your fellow bell end makes it out to be, mountains out of molehills like it always is with you people.

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Lets move on from that now to more important issues, the cabbie has a bluetooth ear thing, clearly he is the one with problems or huge proportions. Only a clown would wear one.....wait a min, you have one too right?
No he probably needs it for his job as a ... C A B - D R I V E R (or maybe you are advocating him using a phone as well ) whereas the cylclist only needs his cam for his job as a self righteous little f**ktard!!!

Hope you get this now

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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 01:49 PM
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Never heard of an installed car kit? What I assume most professional drivers would choose. For someone who is sat on their fat @rse driving all day it would make rather a good investment.

Still, on the plus side, at least we can see he is a ****, long before he opens his mouth or see him driving.
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Originally Posted by Myles
http://youtu.be/QSiBVTtrS1w

Just thought I'd add this one for the entertainment of all who frequent scoobynet. Reading out number plates to himself, he ought to concentrate on the road.
I ride both bikes and motorbikes, and I honestly can't see anything wrong with most of those passes



I notice he hasn't uploaded any footage of himself (and there will be some) flying up the inside of traffic light queues, with his hands a whisker away from wing mirrors

He has a point about the people pulling out on him, and bus drivers are just ignorant ******, but those instances happens to everyone, not just cyclists
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F1_Fan - I know you're aware of the information regarding the non-existent road tax and how the roads are paid for, so repeated comments about how cyclists don't pay for using the roads is simple trolling - could you please stop?

Back to the original video - I agree about the whole 11 minute diatribe that could've been dealt with in a simple 1 minute summary, and while I appreciate that the cyclist needs to be fully aware of what might happen: I think in this case he simply had no time to react, and that bloody woman deserves having her license revoked.
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
F1_Fan - I know you're aware of the information regarding the non-existent road tax and how the roads are paid for, so repeated comments about how cyclists don't pay for using the roads is simple trolling - could you please stop?

Back to the original video - I agree about the whole 11 minute diatribe that could've been dealt with in a simple 1 minute summary, and while I appreciate that the cyclist needs to be fully aware of what might happen: I think in this case he simply had no time to react, and that bloody woman deserves having her license revoked.
And her vocal chords removed - irritating cow.
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And her vocal chords removed - irritating cow.

and that.
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
F1_Fan - I know you're aware of the information regarding the non-existent road tax and how the roads are paid for, so repeated comments about how cyclists don't pay for using the roads is simple trolling - could you please stop?
Well Kieran your definition of trolling is IMO wrong as well you know.

Like it or not if you run a car you pay insurance, excise duty, VAT and fuel duty some of which goes towards the roads whereas if you are a cyclist you do not! Also please don't counter with the argument 'I run a car too' argument as I run two cars and pay two lots of insurance, excise duty etc.

Then let's talk about traceibility. A cyclist has no licence plate or any form of ID for their vehicle which is why a lot of them can run around with helmet cams shouting stupid things like 'I have you on camera and I have your reg plate'. They wuldn't be so cocky if they themselves were traceable!

No doubt this will get me a petty infraction or a ban, but sometimes things just need saying!

P.S. It's licence with a 'c'

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Ban 'im!
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Old Nov 24, 2011 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Kieran_Burns
F1_Fan - I know you're aware of the information regarding the non-existent road tax and how the roads are paid for, so repeated comments about how cyclists don't pay for using the roads is simple trolling - could you please stop?

Back to the original video - I agree about the whole 11 minute diatribe that could've been dealt with in a simple 1 minute summary, and while I appreciate that the cyclist needs to be fully aware of what might happen: I think in this case he simply had no time to react, and that bloody woman deserves having her license revoked.
Kieran, I don't agree with what you are saying (I know, a rarity for this site!). Motorists pay to run their vehicles on the road, and the tax goes towards all the facets of travel on those roads(or that is the idea). The argument that anyone thay pays income tax is contributing to the roads enough without paying VED is flawed (not an argument by you); what about the unemployed? They obviously do not contribute anything but I wouldn't dream of banning doleys from cycling.
I do, however, have to laugh at neo-**** cyclists who somehow think the roads were built for them and cars should not ruin their cycling enjoyment. Cameras on the helmet, all this 'caught on camera mate, reg no. xxxx xxx' is just asking for your bike to be inserted in the owners rack so hard it will need surgery.

Its your toy box as well, so I dont necessarily agree F1_Fan has been trolling. Just my opinion.
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