paulr

Old people and council houses. The Queen.

paulr

Oh, and when i am older, i will live where i want, do what i want, and work as long as i want. If someone doesn't like it, they'd better bring a big gun.

tony de wonderful

The state has already taken peoples money and given it to financial institutions, and the QE is taking wealth from savers and giving it to debtors/banks. So why not take houses too?

Norman Dog

iTrader: (1)

I think all kid breeding little chav bastards should be given one room only in a hostel. If you have any more kids the room would get more crowded thus discouraging uncontrolled breeding.

It's great this country isn't it? Most hard working people only have 2 kids because they can't afford/don't have the space to have more, Social security sponging teenagers/immigrants etc. just get a bigger house and bigger handouts.

EddScott

We only have one child and we couldn't afford or have the space for more. The wifes relatives have at 2 or 3 each. Because we both work and own our own home we can't really have more children responsibly. The rest just pop them out ***** nilly and get given homes etc etc

Its the usual moan on this one from me.

austinwrx

its the usual daily mail mis-guided article:

this is about welfare reform and purely social housing: not those in owner occupation.

some local authorities and housign assocations have approaching 60% under occupation in their stock.

building isn't viable, when the actual properties are available. but just under occupied.

also- all of us are paying via income tax to keep these people under occupying these homes.

when you check the stats: virtually all under occupation is by those on benefit.

the housing benefit bill alone is currently £18 billion.

now £9 billion was spent last yr on the police........ do you get the idea that something needs to be done.

bringing immigration into this is nonsense, the few that do end up in social housing are a finate percentage.

trust me, I'm involved in this directly !!

boomer

...so why is one of the IFs suggestions that "Measures could include an exemption from stamp duty for the over 60s when they move to a smaller property.". Someone in rented accommodation (especially if it is subsidised) would be unlikely to afford the £50K deposit on a (smaller) house, even without stamp duty.

Also, IF quote in their "Notes for Editors:" that (item 2) - "This is because home ownership among the under 35s is falling faster than it is rising for the over 65s, figures from the English Housing Survey show."

..."ownership", not rental. Indeed ownership seems to crop up quite a lot in their press release!

mb

Lee247

That was going to be my question

CrisPDuk

Someone at the BBC obvioulsy has a bee in thier bonnet about this

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15400477

Barely a mention of council houses in this one either Austin, I would suggest that the one holding the wrong end of the stick is you

David Lock

Might as well add a drop of euthanasia in as well....... would save the NHS a few bob



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Leslie

Give it time!

Les

Jamz3k

I don't think its right at all trying to move the elderly out of their homes just because its got an extra room. It is their homes, their security/safe place, its pretty disgusting in my opinion. I know that if my Granny was made to give up her home it would devastate her completely.

There is a vast difference between a house and a home and the people who think up these rediculous ideas need to remember this.

Instead of threatening people out of their homes how about the government stimulate young workers to move out of their parents home. I'm 25 and I would say the majority of people I know at my age, live at home, not because they can't afford to move out but because they can't afford miss out on going drinking every weekend, owning flash cars and basically having monumental amounts of disposible cash. Get the younger folk to man up and start giving back instead of bullying the elderly.

David Lock

No they should be shot.

If the gov't had any money then they could consider contributing to the cost of a home for first time buyers. Say give 25% of cost with no or minimal interest and get money back when property sold. That would make homes more affordable and be an incentive for house builders.

And if Granny wants to stay in her 6 room pad then more fool her but it's her home ffs and nothing to do with big bloody interfering brother.

dl

Jamz3k

I personally don't agree with that. I don't understand why so many think it is their God given right to own a home? If they can't afford it, rent.

AndyC_772

iTrader: (2)

Can anyone please point out to me what the occupant's age has to do with anything?

My wife and I are in our 30's and own a home which might be considered "large" by some metrics. If we wanted to downsize, why shouldn't we be eligible for exactly the same incentive benefit as anyone else?

I thought age discrimination was generally regarded as a bad thing, if not actually illegal?