bigsinky

fueling modifications, more robust ignition system, fancy cams, fancy cylinder head work, baffled sump, oil breather system, modified exhaust system, bigger anti roll bars, adjustable droplinks, anti lift kit, competition engine and gearbox mounts, fancy diffs, better ecu(than ecutek). it all adds up. the research and development that goes into a car of this type you wouldnt believe. add in the cost of labour as well if you're not doing the work yourself. Specialist work like this (engine building, fabrication etc) is going to cost £70 - 100 an hour.

happydude303

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see i new there would be more

need4speeduk

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Plus uprated fuel pumps, filters, braided fuel lines, fittings, fuel FPR, lightweight tank, swirl pot, wastegates, 4 bar Map sensor, 3 port boost solenoid, etc etc etc etc.

On my car there must be £1000 in just braided hoses & fittings.

happydude303

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the list gets bigger : >

jef

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^^^ tbh mate it could go on and on.

like i said before , got the disposable cash then go for it.#

but crippling yourself to get there is a non-no, you have to run/service/maintain it after.

that itself will carry on costs - esp the fuel

smithy86

im new to the impreza scene and realise that big bhp seems to cost big money to.i have a MY00 uk turbo that i know would cost alot to get any good bhp from so im going down the route i did with my old clio williams....a well set up chassis.it never had alot of power but handled spot on.i would love some 600bhp monster but funds and family stop this but to be honest i would be happy with 300bhp and well set up suspension,sometimes in can be just as much fun in my opinion.

Littleted

BHP is like wanking when your 14 you just want more

jef

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^^^ pmsl

smithy totally agree - good handling mods and great brakes, offer so much more improvement than smallish bhp figures

altho if you can add the bhp ontop of that, then even better

im not used to powerful cars until a few years back - but my 300bhp classic didnt feel particularly quick, probably because of the gearing, my old 260bhp pulsar felt a good bit faster, altho fell apart as driving it lol

Lateral Performance

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And do it wrong, and the engine will last just about as long !


Dazdavis, I thought you were older

micky boy

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^^^^^

as mark says. taking short cuts is a no no aswell, if you going to do it
DO IT PROPERLY FIRST TIME ROUND

cheers mickyboy

New_scooby_04

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Good place to start?

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...-road-car.html

need4speeduk

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I cant imagine Mark ever wanking. Or maybe I just dont want to

stevebt

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the hamster

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well i'm going to start with adding more handling potential and better brakes. I currently have sti fronts and standard rears so will be changing for coilovers and already have whiteline arb's and droplinks. Will look at brake options, based on budget then will start with weight reduction.

I'm going to be running a mild 300/300 on a standard MY00 engine, then once progress is made i'll look at what power options suit my budget.

I'm not looking at creating a 10 second car, this was purely a thread to find out what the key ingredients would be but no-one seems to have a positive word to say about putting money into their car on here. All I hear is negativity for some reason, theres always a "but" in peoples replies or a reason why things shouldnt be done, why?

need4speeduk

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Ok, this is the reason, and dont take it personally.

Because you started a thread that sounded like " I had a great weekend at TOTB and it looks like great fun, so what do I have to do to build a 10 second car".

People are just giving you advice. No one is pissing on your parade or telling you not to do this or dont do that. People are telling it like it is and tbh, whether you do it or dont do it makes no difference to anyone but you. Fact.

As for no one having a positive word about putting money into their cars.....

Most of us that are giving you advice have thrown more money at our cars than we'd care to remember. At a rough guesstimate, my cars cost £50,000 to build, and thats with getting most things at a discounted cost to what the parts are actually worth. That £50k doesn't mean I'm going to have a 10 second car either.

Many have spent more than that. So if you have £50k to blow on a car then go for it. Dont forget though that building a car like these generally means to intend to rag the nuts out of it and by doing that theres a very realistic chance that you'll blow an engine (£10k to fix) or a gearbox (£2.5k to fix) or something else (£££ to fix).

What seems like a bit of fun can quickly become a serious and real PITA. Have a look through all the project threads and see how many people throw £15k - £20k starting a project before realising just what these things cost and simply give in and sell up. I've thought about it many times as have probably 99% of the others that build these cars.

All people are telling you is dont do it on a whim or you will regret it.

Whatever you decide, to build or not to build, I'm sure everyone wishes you good luck.

smithy86

maybe a little of topic but jef said about the gearing and i just wanted to know if say a RA gearbox would be a straight swap for my uk MY00 gearbox?stupid question i know but have to learn somewhere.

APIDavid

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I think Dave Millwards car that we were involved in was a genuine 10 Secs car and I think he spent something like 46 G's.

He probably doesn't want reminding......................

David APi

snake1906

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nice i could of had myself a 10 2nd car with all the money ive thrown away on my p1

the hamster

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I understand what you're saying, and maybe I came across as a teenager without a clue but i'm nearly 40 and have spent the last 7 years modifying mazda's, including creating the only MX6 2.5 V6 Import Turbo in the country. Trust me, when you turbo a car that was never produced with a turbo, never intended to have a turbo, and only a handful of people have every done it, you know the headaches etc. Everything is bespoke, theres no "bolt on" kits for it, even the FMIC pipework has to all be made up in sections. I know what the recipe is for fast cars etc, I was just interested in how people went about it on an impreza.

What struck me at TOTB was that there were some standard(ish) looking imprezas there which were very competative but still running things like Brembos, interior etc etc, this is why I asked what it actually takes.

Its not about "you need to do this and that", I was looking for "I did this, and I did that".

All I keep hearing is that i'll need to "throw" money at it, well everyone does that if they're into modifying so thats nothing new. Modding a car is a progression, you never get to the end result straight away, if ever, and proberbly spend waaaay too much money doing the same thing several ways til its right.

Everyone has to start somewhere, how far they go is up to them.

snake1906

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thats what you hear m8 as thats exactly was most people do as alan said drop car off pay bill run 10,s

need4speeduk

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Well if you're gonna do it and do it in stages I would suggest the following to begin with.

Depending how far you're going to push it, put a cage in it. Fast is great until it goes wrong. Boring I know but if it saves your life it'll be the best investment of all. Hopefully you'll never need it. Oh, and strip the **** out of it to lose as much weight as poss.

Polybush all round, ARB's, drop links, ALK, adjustable rear arms, coilovers. A car that handles well is a good starting point.

Brakes after that lot with braided or copper lines.

Once all thats done the fun begins power wise.

All in my opinion of course. Others will do things a different way.

the hamster

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Thanks mate, thats kinda the route i'm proberbly going to take and I have a good start with having the arbs, droplinks and reasonable power already.

Cant seem to find much info on anti lift kits so could you point me to some info/price on them, seem to be a popular mod.

PS Fellow Hammers fan here, 30 years of suffering and counting! Bring back Cottee, McAvenie and Co please! lol

need4speeduk

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Yep. Lifetime of misery mate. Sadly the one thing in life you'll never chance is your footie team. Hopefully we'll bounce back up this year.

Give Alyn at AS performance a call. Usually stocks most of the bits you'll be after and is fair on pricing. Also a very nice chap. Mark @ Lateral will be your man for engine parts etc when you get to that stage.

stevebt

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some big stuff you definately need, there is loads more you need and you won't believe how much you can spend on little parts and fittings

2.2t block with mods to make 2.35.
sti8 jap heads ported and polished with uprated valves and aftermarket cams
rcm verniers
rotated turbo including RCM twisted kit and wastegate and headers
1000cc injector, uprated fuel pump and swirl pot
syvecs ecu
ap 6 pot brakes
aps dr725 fmic
carbonettic tripple plate clutch
coilovers

the hamster

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Thanks Steve, thats a nice build.

I'm all too aware of the scary world of the "little bits" and that immortal phrase "how f**kin much!!!!" lol

dazdavies

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That's just for my road car, just wait until I build my race car!!!!


oh and spell my name right especially if you're calling me a w*nker

stockcar

maybe he thought you were the welsh version...................

jef

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whatever route you go, make sure you post it up,

i for one would be very interested to see the build you go for.

my advice tho wold be spend a night looking through the many project threads - good reading with trial and errors on the way, build a good relationship with your chosen builder and away you go.

youll learn with reading who the good guys in the scoobyworld are, and who to avoid, altho also take things with a pinch of salt - speak to those personally that have used whov ever , with your required results

then sit back and enjoy the results

trails

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I was always under the impression it was a standard sti5 box on your drag car which was still pretty amazing...throws everything I've read\experienced with UK boxes into question; I broke two UK boxes at under 300 ft\lbs (not launching; stripped 2nd on one and 4th on another), but the P1 box I ran at over 350 ft\lbs never missed a beat

Anger

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I ran a stock WRX RA one for 2 years at over 430bhp 400lbs/ft including over 60 drag launches... some just last

Its still going strong now aswell in another Subaru