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Old 16 July 2011, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by richgreenscooby1
i thinks you are all missing a bit of a point ,

new sti in 2011 32k
standard turbo 2000 was 22 k in 1998
rb5 was 27k
and the p1 was 31k

So surley 32k for the new sti isnt that bad with the prices of parts , exchange rate , etc ......
You missed the 22B out of that lot at circa 40k
Now if you look at the cost of an STI type UK in 2002, 25k (26 for the prodrive style), it went up in 2005 because of the A-DCCD they added (so 26k), then it wasnt too bad until they put another 7k on it.... thats quite a hike, and you can get a full jap spec car with 320bhp and no dodgy engine for less than subaru UK do them for something definately wrong there

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Originally Posted by Myles
Yeah, who is the sad little old man who just sits on myriad forums doing exactly what you do on here......?
'You bikers are all pansies'
'My Impreza is a lot better than all your Civics, and Id rather have a Type S than a Type R'
'My Civic is better than your Imprezas, blah blah'

The list goes on.

Do they not have a lights out policy in the mental home? If so its bed time Pete, go get your straitjacket on.
Oi! Don't insult us with mental health problems.............. PS Lewis is surely much worse

Come on Pete...... some of the things you post do make sense but most of the time it's just baiting and trolling. The sad thing is it appears you do this not only here, but on other forums and have being doing so for a long time. Perhaps speaking to someone would help............
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The bike thread was SEVEN years ago FFS ......

See a doctor


Aha, the troll is now the trolled! So what you are saying is that you trolled the motorcycle news forum when you were younger, ie. 67? Immaturity is no excuse.
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Old 16 July 2011, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Flaps
I'm just sat here waiting for you to give me a small chance to reply to you yet again even though I hate you .... I'm so lonely, sad and wishing I had your pulling power.

I really am pathetic.
Don't be too hard on yourself
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Old 16 July 2011, 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Myles


Aha, the troll is now the trolled! So what you are saying is that you trolled the motorcycle news forum when you were younger, ie. 67? Immaturity is no excuse.
I have never posted on a Motorbike Forum ..... if you look carefully and actually use your one working brain cell you will see that I was being REFERRED to!! I wasn't posting!

I am referred to across the internet on a daily basis, I am imitated widely and adored universally ..... but ScoobyNet is the home of the worlds greatest Forum Poster and you should be PROUD of that fact!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I have never posted on a Motorbike Forum ..... if you look carefully and actually use your one working brain cell you will see that I was being REFERRED to!! I wasn't posting!

I am referred to across the internet on a daily basis, I am imitated widely and adored universally ..... but ScoobyNet is the home of the worlds greatest Forum Poster and you should be PROUD of that fact!
No time like the present eh Pete?..................
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I have never posted on a Motorbike Forum ..... if you look carefully and actually use your one working brain cell you will see that I was being REFERRED to!! I wasn't posting!

I am referred to across the internet on a daily basis, I am imitated widely and adored universally ..... but ScoobyNet is the home of the worlds greatest Forum Poster and you should be PROUD of that fact!
Like a boomerang, he keeps coming back!

Just now you were explaining yourself by saying it was 7 years ago, now you have read it you are changing your tune. The problem with being a troll is you forget who you have been trolling.
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Originally Posted by Myles
Like a boomerang, he keeps coming back!

Just now you were explaining yourself by saying it was 7 years ago, now you have read it you are changing your tune. The problem with being a troll is you forget who you have been trolling.
EH? What are you on about you half-wit??

I'll make it very simple for you .... I have never posted on a Motorbike Forum!! I was being quoted about a post I made in the Bike Section on SN.

BTW - it's my thread ..... it's YOU who keeps coming back
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I too have car offers come through the letterbox or e mail, but i don,t feel a need or desire to slag these companies off on forums. No car is a sensible purchase financially unless it,s a diesel that does over 70 mpg. Such economy means serious lack of performance. There are performance diesel,s. I,ve recently been using a BMW123d which i must say is an awesome car (few options), though costs more than a new STI. The BMW returns 47 mpg combined and would be my choice out of the two cars. PSL OVER 29,000 POSTS GET A LIFE
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wow people really dont like you ps lewis.
you must have upset a lot of people lol.
im not going to start slagging you off because unlike alot of scoobynetters above i am not aware of your postings.
but whats your point?? yes the finance is crap but so is a lot of car finance nowadays.
you dont have to take the finance.
imprezas are expensive in every way i.e cost to buy,run,insure etc
i brought mine because i always wanted one so when i had the money i brought one and was well aware of the cost beforehand.
if you want something cheep get a pushbike.
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PSL is a troll, pure & simple. Stick him on ignore, like I have, and forget about the old duffer

TX.
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
PSL is a troll, pure & simple. Stick him on ignore, like I have, and forget about the old duffer

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Ignore?
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Old 17 July 2011, 09:56 AM
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There is an ignore button & you then can't see what they're posting ... it's a godsend!

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If you believe the Finance Deal - sold as an "AMAZING" Offer - is good then fair enough.

Sometimes one feels the need to voice ones disgust at being fed a crappy offer under the cover of some marketing tripe which attempts to mislead you into thinking it's a 'Phenomenal Finance Deal' (Subaru's own words).

I feel it's my duty, nay, obligation, to alert the flaws in the marketing blurb ... I mean, come on, what numptie pays a 'Purchase Fee'? What village idiot pays a 'Acceptance Fee'? When I want credit they are honoured to have my custom - they wouldn't get any mileage from me on 'Fees!' ..... the very thought that people actually bend over and pay these boils my blood to be honest.

As for paying a laughable 9.7% ..... pah, i don't think so!!

And then, the final humility of it all, on the final payment - 36 months down the line - you look back and have been charged £38,363 for a car sitting on your drive that you couldn't sell for more then £12,000 ....... that's if you can find anyone to buy it (imagine what fuel costs will be in 3 years time?).

I wouldn't mind at all what Finance Deal Subaru cobble together, or whether they can convince numpties to sign up to it, or whether the buyer thinks it's all a price worth paying ..... fair play, it's called trade and an open market.

But, when I get told that this is a PHENOMENAL Finance Deal and I should jump now .. well, it puts Subaru UK in the same bucket as World of Leather, DFS, MFI and every other company who target the chavs ...... and they should, let's be honest, be above all that nonsense!

jh1 - you say I need to get a life ....... fair enough, that's your opinion and you may well be right. But, consider this, you have actually read a through thread you disagree with - took the time to post - and slagged off a person you don't know from Adam ..... if it's a life that needs getting may I suggest you go to the shops and see if you can purchase one on a 'Phenomenal Finance Deal'!?
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
wow people really dont like you ps lewis.
you must have upset a lot of people lol.
im not going to start slagging you off because unlike alot of scoobynetters above i am not aware of your postings.
but whats your point?? yes the finance is crap but so is a lot of car finance nowadays.
you dont have to take the finance.
imprezas are expensive in every way i.e cost to buy,run,insure etc
i brought mine because i always wanted one so when i had the money i brought one and was well aware of the cost beforehand.
if you want something cheep get a pushbike.
5% of ScoobyNet wouldn't do without me ... 5% think I'm a right nobber ... 90% don't give a toss one way or the other, they just get on with life. You have done likewise

I'm not sure whether you bought (it's not actually brought) a new one? Or if you took the Finance Deal? Maybe you bought wise and bought secondhand when the major losses had already been incurred by someone else?

You can half your driving costs buy buying a sensible car .. no need for pushbikes
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Old 17 July 2011, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Pink_Floyd
Ignore?
Yes, there's an IGNORE button where you can remove someones posts in a thread.

But, I can guarantee that you will soon remove the ignore pslewis as the place becomes rather sterile and devoid of interactive pleasures.

Terminator X claims he has me on ignore .... which is quite simply amazing, as he posts on ALL my threads ..... Ask yourself why he would read one of my threads if I am the OP and Author and he claims to have me on ignore!?

Terminator X loves me, couldn't do without me, needs me to spice up his life ... so, don't take what he says too seriously - he's pretty harmless really
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Originally Posted by pslewis
If you believe the Finance Deal - sold as an "AMAZING" Offer - is good then fair enough.

Sometimes one feels the need to voice ones disgust at being fed a crappy offer under the cover of some marketing tripe which attempts to mislead you into thinking it's a 'Phenomenal Finance Deal' (Subaru's own words).

I feel it's my duty, nay, obligation, to alert the flaws in the marketing blurb ... I mean, come on, what numptie pays a 'Purchase Fee'? What village idiot pays a 'Acceptance Fee'? When I want credit they are honoured to have my custom - they wouldn't get any mileage from me on 'Fees!' ..... the very thought that people actually bend over and pay these boils my blood to be honest.

As for paying a laughable 9.7% ..... pah, i don't think so!!

And then, the final humility of it all, on the final payment - 36 months down the line - you look back and have been charged £38,363 for a car sitting on your drive that you couldn't sell for more then £12,000 ....... that's if you can find anyone to buy it (imagine what fuel costs will be in 3 years time?).

I wouldn't mind at all what Finance Deal Subaru cobble together, or whether they can convince numpties to sign up to it, or whether the buyer thinks it's all a price worth paying ..... fair play, it's called trade and an open market.

But, when I get told that this is a PHENOMENAL Finance Deal and I should jump now .. well, it puts Subaru UK in the same bucket as World of Leather, DFS, MFI and every other company who target the chavs ...... and they should, let's be honest, be above all that nonsense!

jh1 - you say I need to get a life ....... fair enough, that's your opinion and you may well be right. But, consider this, you have actually read a through thread you disagree with - took the time to post - and slagged off a person you don't know from Adam ..... if it's a life that needs getting may I suggest you go to the shops and see if you can purchase one on a 'Phenomenal Finance Deal'!?
The thing is Pete this deal is poor for you for reasons you have highlighted. For example your ability to borrow at a much lower rate. However some people do not have this facility or luxury and 9.7% is the option available to them. As others have stated it's actually not a bad rate given the current climate. In addition you feel an acceptance and admin fee is unjust, as do I. Like you I believe that my interest charge should be payment enough. However this is just another pitfall of modern credit. Most finance providers charge this so there is little chance to escape it.

You are quite correct in stating the car will depreciate, but again that's the nature of the beast. All cars, baring rare and exotics, depreciate. Some worse than others. Experts have long warned against buying new as you take the biggest hit. However if you want a new car that's the price you pay.

Ultimately this is the situation the majority are finding themselves in should they wish to own a new Impreza STi. It's hardly the world's worst deal ever cobbled together. You don't agree with it, fair enough, but the level you are going to with these thread is bordering on scary. It's almost as if you've looked at this email as a personal insult and that everyone should have the same (alleged) financial means as you, not to mention the same opinions as well. It's actually all rather sad, and I for one wouldn't mind seeing an end to it as your postings now contribute very little, other than aggravation which is sad when you consider you're an intelligent man with a wealth of knowledge.
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well i brought a 5 year old one privately with my own cash no finance.
agreed i could cut costs by buying a sensible car but i want a fast fun car so i own and sti impreza.
i still dont get what your point is??
yes the finance deal is not very good but has anyone on here taken it?? or even discussed taking it??
and why go on an impreza forum and say get a sensible car????? if we all did that there would be no scoobynet
i am currently in the 90% but for how much longer i dont know
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
well i brought a 5 year old one privately with my own cash no finance.
agreed i could cut costs by buying a sensible car but i want a fast fun car so i own and sti impreza.
i still dont get what your point is??
yes the finance deal is not very good but has anyone on here taken it?? or even discussed taking it??
and why go on an impreza forum and say get a sensible car????? if we all did that there would be no scoobynet
i am currently in the 90% but for how much longer i dont know
BOUGHT FFS!!!!!!!
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sorry spelling police
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Unless it's 0% Finance I think you will find everyone who buys a car on HP will pay a Doc Fee of some description and since the majority of people use finance like this to fund a new car I think your insulting their intelligence really.

No one wants to pay these fees we all know that, it doesn't need you to state the obvious really and go on and on.
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Originally Posted by c_maguire
I take it there is some irony here?
Yes, but if you can't beat them ... join them..

I do still own a Subaru though and have done for the last 15 years so I think i am more qulified than most to moan about those not owning Scoobs on here
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
sorry spelling police
It's not spelling, it's grammar.

Brought as in to bring, bought as in to buy.

Now back to your homework and don't make the same mistake again
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right im off to the the veyron owners club website to tell them they could have saved money and bought a diesel.
idiots!!!!
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Originally Posted by Myles
License is not wrong, it is an alternative spelling
GRAMMAR POLICE ALERT

It's not an alternative spelling.

License is the correct spelling when the word is used as a verb - eg. "I licensed my car".

Licence is the correct spelling when used as a noun - eg. "I have a driving licence".

To write "I have a driving license" is just wrong (unless you are American).
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Originally Posted by Pink_Floyd
The thing is Pete this deal is poor for you for reasons you have highlighted. For example your ability to borrow at a much lower rate. However some people do not have this facility or luxury and 9.7% is the option available to them.
Cracking post .. fair points, made very well indeed ..

I don't agree with you, but that's OK also.

I have pulled out a section of your excellent post above and will ask the question which is begging to be asked in all honesty ...... "Why, OH, Why, is someone who would struggle to get a credit agreement better than the one offered by Subaru even considering buying such a car?" .... you are clearly an intelligent person, surely you can see that they are probably a little bit daft/stupid/mislead?

These are cars which will cost over £38,000 over 3 years just in purchase costs alone, add to that the sub 20mpg fuel costs, the Insurance costs, the Road Tax costs and Servicing costs ........ to my mind, only those who can pay cash, do not need silly Finance and have an income way above the average should even consider buying one of these beasts.
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if you dont want a subaru buy something else and f*** off and leave the happy subaru owners to it and stop telling us things we already know about fuel costs etc
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by the way i am now in the 5% and cannot be bothered to reply to anymore of your boring rubbish im off out anyway.
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Originally Posted by tubbytommy
i am currently in the 90% but for how much longer i dont know
I shall alert the press that you are about to decide ..... HOLD THE PAPERS!!

No-one cares about me, you or what we say on here
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I don't think you should complane about a new STi cost about 32.000£ in UK, here in Norway it's cost about 110.000£ because of the taxes...
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