Cameron isn;t coming out of this NotW thing too well is he?
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As for running the country ... when is he going to start doing that or do you mean running it as in into the ground?
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Ah yes just read that he withdrew from today's meeting, but will meet them later in the week although one has to wonder after all they have been through whether it would have perhaps been a good idea to make them a prioity
As for running the country ... when is he going to start doing that or do you mean running it as in into the ground?
As for running the country ... when is he going to start doing that or do you mean running it as in into the ground?
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Given the poor alternatives I think I'll stick with the Tories for the time being, they are by no means perfect but the others not not even warrant a second look
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If Bliar escaped the 40 minutes claim and subsequent inquiry, Camerons got nothing to worry about on this one.
Needs to hang Coulson out to dry though, no matter how much of a 'friend' he is/was.
Needs to hang Coulson out to dry though, no matter how much of a 'friend' he is/was.
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At least politicians in a democracy are honest liars.
The worst sort of politician is the one who says he is a saint. It's where all tyrany has come from since Caesar.
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Agreed, he shoud have been first cab off the rank not the last.
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Please explain your reference to an "honest liar"
Very few politicians don't try to convince us of their saintliness.
Do you feel that if the people vote a politician into power, then he has a moral duty to work for the good of the voters?
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I thought the most interesting part was the release of Brown personal papers on what advice he was given by his top civil servant, not to pursue a enquiry. Only for the same to state " he did not need to follow my advice"
Which asks the question why have him at all! But it seems to have been brushed under the carpet.
As for Coulson it seems Cambam had him to stay at checkers after he resigned. A bit more to run on that relationship.
Which asks the question why have him at all! But it seems to have been brushed under the carpet.
As for Coulson it seems Cambam had him to stay at checkers after he resigned. A bit more to run on that relationship.
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Why is your stock response to any criticism of the Tories to compare it to something Labour did? Just because they are all the same doesn't make what any of them do right. Cameron is another in a long line of dishonest, self serving greedy pigs at the trough and there will be doubtless many more to come until you all stop voting for them!!!
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Dave,
Why is your stock response to any criticism of the Tories to compare it to something Labour did? Just because they are all the same doesn't make what any of them do right. Cameron is another in a long line of dishonest, self serving greedy pigs at the trough and there will be doubtless many more to come until you all stop voting for them!!!
Why is your stock response to any criticism of the Tories to compare it to something Labour did? Just because they are all the same doesn't make what any of them do right. Cameron is another in a long line of dishonest, self serving greedy pigs at the trough and there will be doubtless many more to come until you all stop voting for them!!!
Plus, I never voted for ANY of them so
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but they (Labour) are better
Its one thing organising a party (like any company in this line of business would do)
its another thing being invited to Christmas dinner
Look, im no Paxman when it comes to Politics but I have lived through bad times of the tories and bad times of labour
I know which bad time i'd have
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I think that part of any weakness being shown is down to the fact that all politicians were frantic to get the right kind of publicity from the newspapers involved in this scandal.
That sort of power transcends honest ideals when it comes to politicians.
Les
That sort of power transcends honest ideals when it comes to politicians.
Les
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Pressure on PM as Met chief quits
Oh dear, looks like this one will not go away like politicians usually manage to make them do!
Oh dear, looks like this one will not go away like politicians usually manage to make them do!
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If Cameron were to go, which I highly doubt, we have deputy who's another carreer politition step in but this time as someone with no substance or backbone.
Ed Milliband is a complete muppet blaming the scandal "on a culture of irresponsibility that also led to the banking crisis and abuse of MP expenses." WTF! It was his party that was in office and their party policies these that led up to these events.
Ed Milliband is a complete muppet blaming the scandal "on a culture of irresponsibility that also led to the banking crisis and abuse of MP expenses." WTF! It was his party that was in office and their party policies these that led up to these events.
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If Cameron were to go, which I highly doubt, we have deputy who's another carreer politition step in but this time as someone with no substance or backbone.
Ed Milliband is a complete muppet blaming the scandal "on a culture of irresponsibility that also led to the banking crisis and abuse of MP expenses." WTF! It was his party that was in office and their party policies these that led up to these events.
Ed Milliband is a complete muppet blaming the scandal "on a culture of irresponsibility that also led to the banking crisis and abuse of MP expenses." WTF! It was his party that was in office and their party policies these that led up to these events.
Les
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Absolutly. The two things he mentions happened whilst under New Labour's watch. It was only a few weeks ago he saw fit to attended Rupert Murdoch's News International summer party! No mention of this culture of irresponsibilty (or rather corruption).