MattyB1983

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I'm an electrical engineer and one of the worst things I have seen was at work.
We had a job on a block of quite run down flats very close to kings cross. They were the sort of flats you wouldn't want to be at come nightfall, hookers were quite obviously working near by and drug dealers were working in broad day light.
Myself and a work mate had to go to the top floor to check cut outs (electric box), we took the stairs as the lift was in a very sorry state. We got to the third flight of stairs when we were confronted by two young girls in their school uniforms. One of the girls was holding a belt round the others arm while the other girl was trying to inject herself with what I presume was 'H'.
My pal shouted at them asking them what on earth they were doing. We were told to 'F' off and that it was none of our business.

If anything I felt deeply sorry for these two girls, what sort of parents could these girls have to end up using this drug. Yes it was their choice to do it but I would bet my bottom dollar if they were not living in a scummy council flat the story would be different.

J4CKO

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I have seen five guys from my school die of drugs, may actually be more but they are the ones I am certain about, they were, to a man, *********. The most tragic bit is that there were two sets of brothers included in that. I saw it happening and it did seem to go from booze and weed to harder stuff, remember one of them going down hill pretty quickly, real shame as despite being a bit of a dick he was always nice to me, kind of rough and had a reputation but never gave me any bother, didnt see him for a while then he appeared outside the local off licence scrounging money, he had pissed his pants and was slurring, apparently his standard "cocktail" was Special Brew and Temazepan, saw him alternately like that and right as rain, then heard he had chocked on his own vomit having added Heroin to the cocktail recipe. The second one died of a straight overdose, he was a year younger than me, I remember seeing the Police come in the pub to get his sister to tell her (didnt know at the time), was her birthday and she initially thought the copper was a strippergram apparently.

EddScott

Why are you being such an ***?

I didn't say it was safe, I said you do not get addicted to H the first time you use it. My other posts have discussed the affects of H both physical and mental.

Seems silly to constantly say I think it's safe.

fivetide

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My point is:

The world - "Heroin (why do you keep putting H?) is addictive from the first go"

You - "Heroin does not get you addicted the first time you try it"

If you really really believe that and you are givign me grief for believing the 'official line' and ignorign the stories on here which support my view whty are you not prepared to put your money where your mouth is?

Of course it is horrifically addictive that's why. I don't understand why you are persisting with this and makign it out to be less harmful than absolutely everyone else knows it is.

There you go, and no name calling either.

5t.

MattyB1983

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Dude, that's just a stupid comment. Inciting someone to try this mind/body destroying substance.
It's a horrendous drug which causes horrid effects and not only to the user.

fivetide

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Exactly. But apparently you can't get addicted by "just trying it" so says Edd.

5t.

EddScott

You would do worse than to read my other posts. I've expressed my opinion of the addictive qualities of heroin compared to other drugs quite clearly in this thread. I've not once suggested it's not dangerous - just attempted to correct what is assumed to be "fact".

I've read the stories regarding those who others know who have got involved with heroin and I can quite believe them - and even add to them.

I'm sorry if you think I'm giving you "grief" regarding your belief in the official line, I attempted to point out that it is wrong (i.e. I know it's wrong).

MattyB1983

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I don't think you would get addicted after one hit but in fairness none of us have ever tried so we can't really comment.
I think the user craves that 'high' feeling and from what I've read and experienced the first high is the best. The user then chases to feel like that again so uses more and more. Before they know it they are addicted.
When I was young and stupid I once tried ecstasy on a weekend away partying. The feeling was like nothing on earth. The second night I wanted to feel like that again so took the pills again. It wasn't the same so took more but couldn't replicate that feeling I felt on the first night, that first 'high'.
Luckily I realized what a complete d*ck I had been and never touched the stuff again. Unfortunately many others don't realize this.

fivetide

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As I just attempted to point out that I am sure you are wrong. So there is no point in me agreeing with you as that would make us both wrong wouldn't it?

Matty makes a great reason why you are wrong:

Which is what I said earlier. The physical addiction hasn't taken hold but the mental one is there from the first go and that's the bit that's hardest to give up.

Its why people can give up the tabs for months but still go back to them because they 'just need a cig'. they don't 'need' one at all but they think they do - its a mental issue.

Therefore I stand by my comments and the 'official line'.

5t.

EDIT beyond that lets just agree to disagree with nae name calling eh?

The Trooper 1815

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-n...wales-13697521

Like this complete scumbag!

Ellie*

I will be spending my saturday giving out and supervising the consumption of methadone.
And im bricking it becaise i dont know any of them and they might start getting ratty when i have to ask their name and waiting while i figure out how to use the damn methadone pump machine. (yes methadone, on a pump, in lovely Chester)

antdye2008

I lost my brother in 2008 due to heroin, He was an addict for years and in and out of prison. He was a really nice lad everyone liked him and he was always very polite, anyway he eventually sorted himself out and he found himself a girlfriend and was due to get married then 1 night he had an argument with his partner and went into town and bought some heroin and he gave himself a dose that he used to take but obviously he hadnt had the stuff for years and he died.
Thing that gets me is that he was found in the toilets in a nightclub the following morning so he had been there for over 6 hours before the cleaners found him.

I woke up at 1am that night really unsettled and couldnt sleep but didnt know why, following day i found out that he had died so asked the police for a time of death and they told me around 1am, wierd eh i guess twins really do sence when the other one is in distress.

Never really spoke of this as its quiet upsetting but do feel better now its out lol.