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Old 14 May 2011 | 08:20 PM
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More than want an Impreza!!
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£435 last tax disc............ £800 insurance.........£70 of fuel lasts me 5 days if I'm lucky......

But you know what.......fantastic car.........now looking at the WRX STI.....
Old 14 May 2011 | 09:18 PM
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Ye want to try tax a car here in Ireland!!!
Just put 3 months on the impreza, 172 euro for 3 months!!! And cost 77 euro to fill it with petrol yesterday!!!!
I love tax!!! I really do!!!!! (sarcasm is great)
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Originally Posted by pslewis
More than want an Impreza!!
Didn't realise we had to buy a car based on what they majority buys. If that's your logic, Ford have sold the most in the UK last month so you'd better go and trade yours in for one. Maybe you could even join the Honda boards and tell them your Ford is better.
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Didn't realise we had to buy a car based on what they majority buys. If that's your logic, Ford have sold the most in the UK last month so you'd better go and trade yours in for one. Maybe you could even join the Honda boards and tell them your Ford is better.
YOU asked the question, "Who wants a boring civic?"

I answered, "More than want an Impreza!"

Which is a fact .....

So, your comment above is total rubbish and mentally challenged!!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
YOU asked the question, "Who wants a boring civic?"

I answered, "More than want an Impreza!"

Which is a fact .....

So, your comment above is total rubbish and mentally challenged!!
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Why is the Honda so expensive to tax compared to a bigger, better performing, premium brand, far bigger saloon in the form of the BMW 520D ? Seems pointless scrimping and buying a budget, inferior brand to be hit with such expensive tax?

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The BMW 520d looks pretty good ..... but, 37mpg isn't quite up there with the Honda's 55mpg.

I would want the Touring - if they do one. Also, the BMW has limited cubby storage and the steering wheel rim is unnaturally thick. What’s more, there’s nowhere to put the key – and as you need to plip the fob to get in (the car has keyless start, but not entry), this is irritating. Another gripe is revealed as you try to pull away, because the electronic handbrake doesn’t release automatically, like most rival systems

The BMW's run-flat tyres are an absolute turn-off ... as is the fact that it is £10,000 - yes!! £10,000 MORE than the Honda for less equipment!!! That's not worth the Road Tax saving - is it?

Nah, an also-ran I'm afraid ... good try though BMW.
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I get the impression sometimes Pete wishes he had a performance car.
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Do the same maths for the Honda Diesel and you get an annual cost of £1750.
hilarious but they look like they tries far too hard to be different with theeir triangle exhausts ( that is just the tip) the whole car is ugly if your after saving money buy a hybrid. Your Honda won't hold it's value too well either.



Yes, I can afford the financial hit ..... and I would, if it was worth it - it isn't!! Simple as that. It has no quality about it whatsoever .... it's fast to the rear of the next queue - granted - but that's it! One trick pony as I said - but the financial hits come again and again and again.
That is opinion they are like arseholes and everyone has them. Most of us feel driving something economical,ugly and boring isn't worth it and for the people that work hard for their money they want something they love for their money. Cars aren't just about transport.
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If road tax or VED is based on the amount of CO2 produced why not bill car owners once a year after the MOT on the difference in the speedo readings to get a mileage for that year and then some factor to take into account the greeness of the engine? Sounds fair to me.

My £425 VED 2.5 WRX only does 4500 miles per year so I would hopefully see a saving?

Also I think there should be some ability to offset your CO2 emmisions by planting trees or producing wind or solar power or recycling or cycling to work etc etc.

Lets face it its just another unfair tax.

Rant over.
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Trouble with taking the CO2 from the MOT is that quite a few cars have no CAT so would be absolutely nailed!!

Other than that, what about rogue MOT stations?
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The BMW 520d looks pretty good ..... but, 37mpg isn't quite up there with the Honda's 55mpg.

I would want the Touring - if they do one. Also, the BMW has limited cubby storage and the steering wheel rim is unnaturally thick. What’s more, there’s nowhere to put the key – and as you need to plip the fob to get in (the car has keyless start, but not entry), this is irritating. Another gripe is revealed as you try to pull away, because the electronic handbrake doesn’t release automatically, like most rival systems

The BMW's run-flat tyres are an absolute turn-off ... as is the fact that it is £10,000 - yes!! £10,000 MORE than the Honda for less equipment!!! That's not worth the Road Tax saving - is it?

Nah, an also-ran I'm afraid ... good try though BMW.
I see you only quoted the lower figure of 37 in the case of the BMWs extra urban fuel consumption. In case you missed it, the higher figure is 55.4 , so it is more economical than the Honda too.

Hard to believe that a huge 5 seat, 184bhp premium saloon provides better fuel consumption than your small Honda hatchback.
You are absolutely right about diesel being the fuel of the future, Pete.
It would appear times have moved on from when you bought the Honda, as the BMW 520D clearly demonstrates.

http://www.bmw.co.uk/specials/5serie...el_engine.html

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Originally Posted by pslewis
What’s more, there’s nowhere to put the key – and as you need to plip the fob to get in (the car has keyless start, but not entry), this is irritating. Another gripe is revealed as you try to pull away, because the electronic handbrake doesn’t release automatically, like most rival systems


Nah, an also-ran I'm afraid ... good try though BMW.
If you're talking irritating...

Why have a key to turn AND a push starter? What a waste of time. One or the other surely?

If you're senile (like most Honda owners), why does it let you engage the push starter when you are in gear? Most rival systems don't.

It also lets you engage the push starter when the engine is running. Most rival systems don't.

Why does it have to beep to tell you to put your seat belt on before you've even started the engine? Most rivals don't.

The car is almost as irritating as you.
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Originally Posted by s70rjw
BMW 520D
Like I said, the BMW seems like a capable car .... it matches the Honda in many respects - but, is it worth £10,000 more than the Honda??

That will be a big, massive, FAIL then!!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I would favour the Tax going on fuel .... the lobby against is too strong I'm afraid

I'm about to buy it online right now. I do look back nearly a year when I was looking to buy a new Impreza STi and one of the stumbling blocks was the fact that I would, 12 months on, be looking to pay £460 - and how would I feel about that?

Well, I would feel pretty sick I guess .... putting that fact against what the extra fuel would have cost me in that time too!

So, £115 it is then ..... better than it could have been!


2.2 diesel isn't it Pete?.....that would be £115 for 6 months then, since Honda discontinued that very engine because it would not meet the class' emissions figures......standard for a 2.2 oil burner is about £210 or so....i know since my freelander 2 runs one....
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^^ WRONG ^^

£115 a YEAR!!
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I get the impression sometimes Pete wishes he had a performance car.

The Honda has a great many cubby holes, vital for storage. If you p1ssed in a bag like Pete you would value that too, also for his many pill boxes to keep the madness at bay (FAIL). Thing is in truth i doubt VERY MUCH if Pete ever owned an Impreza, since why would someone with his views buy one?....Also a lot of the old farts on here are convinced he never owned an Impreza due to a total lack of pics of the car.....

still, Pete is a troll, convinced he is an elitest, and as long as people like Les reply to him he will not go away.

I await a powerful PSL repost, and another generic opinionless post from Les, of course followed by re iterating our username incase anyone missed the huge bold font 1 inch away in the username column, such as below:

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still, Pete is a troll, convinced he is an elitest, and as long as people like Les reply to him he will not go away.
OH, dear .... another FAIL .... you reply to more of my posts, more of the time, than Les does!!!

You're not having a good night on here, are you?
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Trouble with taking the CO2 from the MOT is that quite a few cars have no CAT so would be absolutely nailed!!

I had in mind a system where the mileage differance over the last 12 months and the manufacturers co2 figures allowed a calculation to be made for modern cars. Whether the owner had just put the CAT back on the testing station would not know?

Other than that, what about rogue MOT stations?
I agree with the fact that some people would get round it and it would probably be impossible to police such a tax, but there must be something better?
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Its still early...it may improve, since there is nadda on the box i'm stuck with you and fleabay......
Keep thinking your better than everyone Pete!...p.s......i bet you HATE your life really. Doubt you have had or seen a friend in 20 yrs. Wife doesn't talk to you, kids dont phone so make believe on scoobynet it is
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Originally Posted by SpecDscooby
Its still early...it may improve, since there is nadda on the box i'm stuck with you and fleabay......
Keep thinking your better than everyone Pete!...p.s......i bet you HATE your life really. Doubt you have had or seen a friend in 20 yrs. Wife doesn't talk to you, kids dont phone so make believe on scoobynet it is
And STILL you return, like my likkle puppy .... encouraging me to post ..... you must be lonely?
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Originally Posted by SpecDscooby
The Honda has a great many cubby holes, vital for storage. If you p1ssed in a bag like Pete you would value that too, also for his many pill boxes to keep the madness at bay (FAIL). Thing is in truth i doubt VERY MUCH if Pete ever owned an Impreza, since why would someone with his views buy one?....Also a lot of the old farts on here are convinced he never owned an Impreza due to a total lack of pics of the car.....

still, Pete is a troll, convinced he is an elitest, and as long as people like Les reply to him he will not go away.

I await a powerful PSL repost, and another generic opinionless post from Les, of course followed by re iterating our username incase anyone missed the huge bold font 1 inch away in the username column, such as below:

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Pete's not really old. He is allegedly early 40's.

If he is 73 as he says, why would he have bought a classic 10 years ago because of the whole WRX thing?

There aren't many people approaching their 70's who want to drive that sort of car, especially ones a few years later who chuck it in for a diesel conform-a-mobile on the basis of a quiet interior and cheap cost?

Like a lot of people he probably got to about 30, had a bit of spare cash, bought his 'dream car' and now (10 years on) has grown up and is driving a 'sensible car'....and probably now views his earlier self as a bit of an embarrassment!

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Originally Posted by SpecDscooby
The Honda has a great many cubby holes, vital for storage. If you p1ssed in a bag like Pete you would value that too, also for his many pill boxes to keep the madness at bay (FAIL). Thing is in truth i doubt VERY MUCH if Pete ever owned an Impreza, since why would someone with his views buy one?....Also a lot of the old farts on here are convinced he never owned an Impreza due to a total lack of pics of the car.....

still, Pete is a troll, convinced he is an elitest, and as long as people like Les reply to him he will not go away.

I await a powerful PSL repost, and another generic opinionless post from Les, of course followed by re iterating our username incase anyone missed the huge bold font 1 inch away in the username column, such as below:

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You really are a poor fish aren't you. I have every bit of a right to reply to Pete without having to put up with your puerile attempts to send me or even him up for that matter.

Your statements don't even reach the status of "specious" so you would do better to wind your neck in until you can think of something to say which is actually useful or even relates to the truth of the matter.

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You really are a poor fish aren't you. I have every bit of a right to reply to Pete without having to put up with your puerile attempts to send me or even him up for that matter.

Your statements don't even reach the status of "specious" so you would do better to wind your neck in until you can think of something to say which is actually useful or even relates to the truth of the matter.

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I never questioned your right to reply. Post away and enjoy doing so i say. But be prepared for wierdos like me to question your dull and generic posts when you do so. I have read more substance in the Beano.

Pete likes to touch nerves with people and often it ammuses me too. Finally a thread of substance etc, but truth is i really doubt PSL is the man he says he is. This being his alter ego, the one where he had an Impreza and truely believes he has "political views" beyond the ones he copies and pastes from the BBC news web site.

Oh i best address this incase anyone misses my username an inch up and to the left in bold font clear and plain.

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Pete's not really old. He is allegedly early 40's.

If he is 73 as he says, why would he have bought a classic 10 years ago because of the whole WRX thing?

There aren't many people approaching their 70's who want to drive that sort of car, especially ones a few years later who chuck it in for a diesel conform-a-mobile on the basis of a quiet interior and cheap cost?

Like a lot of people he probably got to about 30, had a bit of spare cash, bought his 'dream car' and now (10 years on) has grown up and is driving a 'sensible car'....and probably now views his earlier self as a bit of an embarrassment!
You're wrong ... I wish I was in my 40's!!

And, 63 year olds can - and do - enjoy WRX.

I'm not 73, quite yet ... 30 days left!

And I bought a Honda diesel, because, and this is fact - it's a much better car for me than the new STi ... considering I am a Subaru man, that should worry Subaru UK somewhat.

Anyway - this is about Car Tax and the outrage which is an increase of £5 to £115!!
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Rotton day at work followed by a demand for £260 tax for my 1.8 7 tear old two seater AND insurance rip off lot have put my insurance up by 50% AGAIN!!!!!

Whatever the insurers bleat on about claims putting other policies up i take with a pinch of salt

As to road tax gets right up my nose

Seriously getting near to not being able to afford to drive my car and sell the kids just so the government is ok

Typed in anger so loads of errors I'm sure
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Originally Posted by SpecDscooby
I never questioned your right to reply. Post away and enjoy doing so i say. But be prepared for wierdos like me to question your dull and generic posts when you do so. I have read more substance in the Beano.

Pete likes to touch nerves with people and often it ammuses me too. Finally a thread of substance etc, but truth is i really doubt PSL is the man he says he is. This being his alter ego, the one where he had an Impreza and truely believes he has "political views" beyond the ones he copies and pastes from the BBC news web site.

Oh i best address this incase anyone misses my username an inch up and to the left in bold font clear and plain.

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Yet another inadequate attempt at a reply which misses the point anyway with its innacuracies and poor descriptive content. Hardly surprising I suppose when you mention your favoured comic reading.

One day, when you have had a bit more experience, you may come to realise that your insulting comments, which are pretty ineffective and childish as it happens, actually weaken any attempt of an argument that you might imagine that you have.

Just in passing,it is difficult to work out why you should be so obsessive when it comes to the end of a post.

Maybe if you try stepping off the "hot tin roof" and relax a little, you might produce something more significant in a post and you might even live longer too.

The Dandy was better anyway!

Les...in case you forgot!
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Originally Posted by j999jmp
If road tax or VED is based on the amount of CO2 produced why not bill car owners once a year after the MOT on the difference in the speedo readings to get a mileage for that year and then some factor to take into account the greeness of the engine? Sounds fair to me.

Also I think there should be some ability to offset your CO2 emmisions by planting trees or producing wind or solar power or recycling or cycling to work etc etc.
Isn't that just a complicated way of achieving the same as adding x pence onto a litre of fuel. No factor required, after all CO2 out is proportional to petrol in.

Think of the hassle when you sell a car mid year and have to declare the mileage and pay your emissions bill. What about hire cars?

The offset would occur automatically as an effect of this scheme. Cycle = drive less = less petrol = less tax.
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Just wish the green argument would die a death though

Greatest con of our time but a nice little earner


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