Text speak - a good thing or the devil's work?
03 May 2011, 10:00 AM
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I am sure the old BBS boards were awash with people asking the same questions regarding the fact that email changed the way people communicate in business.
social networking is also changing the way people work, we have just had Salesforce.com rolled out internally and also sell it as a CRM tool, if used as intended it behaves in much the same way as Facebook. Moreover the advertising/creative industries have seen Facebook as a core business app for years
language and communication change and evolve -- you just have to accept it imo
social networking is also changing the way people work, we have just had Salesforce.com rolled out internally and also sell it as a CRM tool, if used as intended it behaves in much the same way as Facebook. Moreover the advertising/creative industries have seen Facebook as a core business app for years
language and communication change and evolve -- you just have to accept it imo
03 May 2011, 10:15 AM
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I think that textspeak is fair enough when used in its original context on the 'phone.
To use it in normal conversation is lazy and unnecessary. I think the English language is worth preserving and its use will ultimately degrade the language.
I also find the use of words such as "proven" instead of proved and "issue" instead of "problem" irritating.
Les
To use it in normal conversation is lazy and unnecessary. I think the English language is worth preserving and its use will ultimately degrade the language.
I also find the use of words such as "proven" instead of proved and "issue" instead of "problem" irritating.
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03 May 2011, 10:20 AM
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03 May 2011, 10:30 AM
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I refuse to sent texts unless I can use a full size keyboard. My kids have mastered the knack of using phone buttons - I haven't and do not intend to try!! In the very rare event of needing to send a text I can type one out on Skype.
My old mum used a version of text speak 50 years ago - it was called shorthand
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My old mum used a version of text speak 50 years ago - it was called shorthand
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03 May 2011, 10:53 AM
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Not always possible, or can cost more.
There are times when I am at work when I receive a text, which I only see when on my break (we're not allowed to carry phones during our shift). So by the time I see it, the sender isn't always available for a 'chat', hence it is more sensible just to reply via text message, then they will have an answer as soon as they see their phone.
As for characters, I will not use text speak (as said earlier) so if I run over the limit, so be it, it'll cost me 10p instead of 5p. If I was even able to phone that person, the likelihood that phone call would cost more than 10p, as once you are speaking people often have a habit of saying more than is required. It's not so bad on contracts, with free minutes, but I am on PAYG, and I have to watch my pennies.
(add to that, sometimes I just don't want to speak to someone personally
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There are times when I am at work when I receive a text, which I only see when on my break (we're not allowed to carry phones during our shift). So by the time I see it, the sender isn't always available for a 'chat', hence it is more sensible just to reply via text message, then they will have an answer as soon as they see their phone.
As for characters, I will not use text speak (as said earlier) so if I run over the limit, so be it, it'll cost me 10p instead of 5p. If I was even able to phone that person, the likelihood that phone call would cost more than 10p, as once you are speaking people often have a habit of saying more than is required. It's not so bad on contracts, with free minutes, but I am on PAYG, and I have to watch my pennies.
(add to that, sometimes I just don't want to speak to someone personally
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03 May 2011, 11:00 AM
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I see the OP from the dump valve thread has not contributed yet, neither have some of the others. I would like to know their opinions and will check when I get in from work as they were pretty quick to spout off and throw the bully card around in that thread when there were a few of them glorifying text speak.
03 May 2011, 11:11 AM
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03 May 2011, 11:15 AM
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I see the OP from the dump valve thread has not contributed yet, neither have some of the others. I would like to know their opinions and will check when I get in from work as they were pretty quick to spout off and throw the bully card around in that thread when there were a few of them glorifying text speak.
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03 May 2011, 11:19 AM
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03 May 2011, 11:41 AM
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yea!!!!! well done. that picture was posted so many times it became synonymous with the dreaded REPOST action. any reposted subjects in any forum were immediately subjected to SIAL. funny at the time but now anachronistic
03 May 2011, 11:46 AM
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The British Rally Forum uses one and you get some funny results from terms like 'WD40' a popular releasing product 'M10' for nut/bolt thread size etc. etc. but it does works well
I agree that txt spk is a pain in the backside
I am not sure how the auto correction software works but I would think that 'popular' Acronyms like LOL, IMHO and the above could be accommodated.
stv (oops sorry Steve)
Oh yes, there is a spell checker
I agree that txt spk is a pain in the backside
I am not sure how the auto correction software works but I would think that 'popular' Acronyms like LOL, IMHO and the above could be accommodated.
stv (oops sorry Steve)
Oh yes, there is a spell checker
03 May 2011, 01:53 PM
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My wife tries to use text speak with me, and I refuse to understand. She also has "conversations" on text a lot with her mates, again I don't take part in that if she tries it on.
It annoys her a lot when I simply ignore them, so now she writes proper consise texts or calls me.
I remember a lot of the shortening (things like LOL, and IMHO) came from old vareities of social media - forums, emails, and particlarly gaming where it was easier to laugh and particularly abuse someone when when playing old school games like Quake or Unreal and you only had seconds before another rocket was flying at you again. This was long before text/SMS was popular in the early 90's. And I don't mind using these because basically they are acronyms. But only sparingly and not as part of a "conversation". Just dropping letters because it's easier or quicker to send a message is lazy and just reminds me of doublespeak in 1984.
While I'm not great english scolar, I really do think a proper sentance should be constructed as such.
It annoys her a lot when I simply ignore them, so now she writes proper consise texts or calls me.
I remember a lot of the shortening (things like LOL, and IMHO) came from old vareities of social media - forums, emails, and particlarly gaming where it was easier to laugh and particularly abuse someone when when playing old school games like Quake or Unreal and you only had seconds before another rocket was flying at you again. This was long before text/SMS was popular in the early 90's. And I don't mind using these because basically they are acronyms. But only sparingly and not as part of a "conversation". Just dropping letters because it's easier or quicker to send a message is lazy and just reminds me of doublespeak in 1984.
While I'm not great english scolar, I really do think a proper sentance should be constructed as such.
03 May 2011, 06:09 PM
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I see the OP from the dump valve thread has not contributed yet, neither have some of the others. I would like to know their opinions and will check when I get in from work as they were pretty quick to spout off and throw the bully card around in that thread when there were a few of them glorifying text speak.
Incidentally, I happen to think that "txt spk" is the language of cretins. Anyone who uses it in anything other than a character space limited environment is nothing more than a lazy pleb.
03 May 2011, 06:20 PM
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This thread is about text speak, but let's not forget about capital letters and punctuation.
As I learned from a post in here not so long ago punctuation and capitalisation are the differences between helping your Uncle, Jack, off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse and there's a big difference there
As I learned from a post in here not so long ago punctuation and capitalisation are the differences between helping your Uncle, Jack, off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse and there's a big difference there
03 May 2011, 06:34 PM
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, I believe it's now generally accepted across the board; I heard, although I can't remember the source and therefore the validity of this comment, that they are no longer able to mark down use of text speak in exams. Although this may be (and I sincerely hope that it is!) completely b*ll*cks
considerably less results than "shot on site" ! 
03 May 2011, 06:52 PM
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This thread is about text speak, but let's not forget about capital letters and punctuation.
As I learned from a post in here not so long ago punctuation and capitalisation are the differences between helping your Uncle, Jack, off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse and there's a big difference there
As I learned from a post in here not so long ago punctuation and capitalisation are the differences between helping your Uncle, Jack, off a horse and helping your uncle jack off a horse and there's a big difference there
