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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark

better article here:

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-...to-know-941148

Looks like I was right about the announcement (or someone finally got the damn date right)
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 04:09 PM
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I have Nokia N8 great bit of kit £30 month on 3 runs OBDkey software well.Plug into my PC all drag n drop
Ha! Ha!! Nice one Greg, but no one's going to fall for that!! Good try though. Drag and Drop, LOL.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 04:12 PM
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Even better one here: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/12/l...il-12th-event/

Vodaphone only at first but the other carriers by June
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 04:17 PM
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I would love an iphone, looking forward to the iphone5 if they can make it better than android then i may be making the switch! Hopefully they improve the email system as its very crappy at the moment.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 04:24 PM
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Scooby Soon, do you mean make iOS better than Android, easy mistake comparing a phone with an operating system. Android phones are confusing like that with so many phones and so many different versions of an operating system. Take your issue with Mail, which version of Android mail is better than iOS? You can't say the latest version as different phones have different latest versions!! Personally I don't have an issue with Mail on the iPhone other than the 200 mail limit, is that what you mean?
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:05 PM
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And Google have no idea when it comes to operating systems. You're all just a big experiment and it's starting to show.
that maybe true -- I don't use Google/Android

I made the point because I was talking to a good friend over the weekend who is one of Europe's top IP/Patent lawyers

he is acting on behalf of Nokia -- who are suing Apple (Nokia, along with Motorola and Ericsson own most of the mobile phone technology patents)

Nokia have requested Apple furnish them details of mobile phone technology and patents used in the Iphone.

Apple replied that they could not compy as they have no idea (in a low level technological way) how the mobile phone technology works in their Iphones

maybe that explains why the phone performance is so poor
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
Scooby Soon, do you mean make iOS better than Android, easy mistake comparing a phone with an operating system. Android phones are confusing like that with so many phones and so many different versions of an operating system. Take your issue with Mail, which version of Android mail is better than iOS? You can't say the latest version as different phones have different latest versions!! Personally I don't have an issue with Mail on the iPhone other than the 200 mail limit, is that what you mean?
Can IOS run multiple email accounts with multiple signatures (different one for each account) with different notification sounds for each? Also the "push" email never works properly on my ipad.

Gmail/email is the same on all Android versions, I have the latest version on the first ever android phone (g1)

My car stereo has an iphone plug in cable so would love to plug it in, but the email system is a killer for me
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:16 PM
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Was that their exact response or are you or your friend making it up? Please respond soon as I'd like to see this story published as soon as possible, I can't believe such a scoop could come from Scoobynet. I can probably find the firm your friend works for but if you could provide a contact address it would make like easier.

I suspect that the answer was somewhat different to "they have no idea" and most likely explained that components in all phones are purchased by manufacturers.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Scooby Soon!
Can IOS run multiple email accounts with multiple signatures (different one for each account) with different notification sounds for each? Also the "push" email never works properly on my ipad.

Gmail/email is the same on all Android versions, I have the latest version on the first ever android phone (g1)

My car stereo has an iphone plug in cable so would love to plug it in, but the email system is a killer for me
There's an app for that, $1.50.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
that maybe true -- I don't use Google/Android

I made the point because I was talking to a good friend over the weekend who is one of Europe's top IP/Patent lawyers

he is acting on behalf of Nokia -- who are suing Apple (Nokia, along with Motorola and Ericsson own most of the mobile phone technology patents)

Nokia have requested Apple furnish them details of mobile phone technology and patents used in the Iphone.

Apple replied that they could not compy as they have no idea (in a low level technological way) how the mobile phone technology works in their Iphones

maybe that explains why the phone performance is so poor

mines been fine for over 2 years now.

only downside is when IOS 4 came out the 3g i have took a hit as its too slow, But the wifes IP 4 is perfect


Nokia Ericcson etc all been hit by the Iphone as its one if not the biggist seller ever.

Nokia even had to adopt a windows mobile cos symbian is shat and didnt support half the new apps.

if i had to choose 2 mobiles for any1 it would be

Iphone
HTC
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
There's an app for that, $1.50.
what is it?
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I suspect that the answer was somewhat different to "they have no idea" and most likely explained that components in all phones are purchased by manufacturers.
spot on -- that's exactly what the do

the point is they have no real understanding of the mobile technology that underpins it

a bit like trying to get an answer to a low level board error on a Dell server -- the would not have a clue

whereas IBM or HP and probably Apple would (because they have developed and own the patents that underpin their products)

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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 05:38 PM
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This is worth a read. Seem's the case was closed last week.

http://www.usitc.gov/press_room/docu...337_701_ID.pdf
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
This is worth a read. Seem's the case was closed last week.

http://www.usitc.gov/press_room/docu...337_701_ID.pdf
interesting - I will ask him when I see him over Easter

He had spent all last week in the states, maybe that's why, anyway he gets paid whatever the result so I doubt he gives a fvck.

btw – it was meant as an anecdotal comment (but genuine) - you shouldn't take it so seriously
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 07:17 PM
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I'm bored and it's a subject that interests me.
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
I'm bored and it's a subject that interests me.
I was not being scarcastic btw -- it interest me too, it seems that the judgement is going to "review" on the 1 August for a final judgement
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Old Apr 12, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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I popped into the CPW today hoping to find a non-Apple phone that would grab my attention and save me some cash I didn't. To me they all looked like cheap copies
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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looks like Apple settled

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13759612

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-13761454

cold comfort for Nokia -- but great news for my friend
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:49 PM
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Nokias biggest mistake was not doing a windows mobile phone

Ages ago I used to test phones for both nokia and Microsoft such as palm devices etc, I always ribbed the guys at nokia to say ditch the nokia **** and get at least 2 wm devices but they never listened , nowntheynare struggling big time I,ll give them 12 months

The top dogs nowadays are

Apple
Htc
Samsung
Sony

As windows mobile gets bigger anod windows 8 releases it's gonna be a 2 horse battle apple or windows android will last but be at the ba k due to functionality differences
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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Just got the HTC Desire S and I am really impressed with it.
I thought it might be another over-hyped piece of tech, but it has really impressed me with quick and easy it is to use.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 11:20 AM
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For me it's the samsung galaxy s 2 it's got everything I want and is way better than my 3 gs
I have a motorola xoom tab so having an android phone makes sense.
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Littleted
Nokias biggest mistake was not doing a windows mobile phone
havn't they rectified that with a tie up with MS

presumably it is the last throw of the dice for Nokia
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
havn't they rectified that with a tie up with MS

presumably it is the last throw of the dice for Nokia
It is surprising, especially when you look back 10 years. Everything then was Nokia. If you bought anything else, you were a tool!

Why has Nokia been left so far behind?
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 12:50 PM
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Didn't Nokia just use their own OS and that was their downfall?
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Old Jun 16, 2011 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
It is surprising, especially when you look back 10 years. Everything then was Nokia. If you bought anything else, you were a tool!

Why has Nokia been left so far behind?

Lack of Windows Mobile devices, and pigeon holeing themselves with there own OS
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