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Old 01 April 2011, 12:06 PM
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You're average daily fail reader....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPD8qHhtVU
that utter *** clown should be sterilised so he cant have kids and pollute the rest of the world.



just like extremists from any religion, he was backwards, illiterate and obviously poorly educated.


quality song though, muslamic ray guns, ill be singing that all day.



hell i might even make a ringtone out of it.
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lol @ the video banny, its even funnier, once you've seen the orginal!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bx6lu...eature=related
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The Daily Mail - Racist in public so you don't have to be
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
As I have said many times on here the press love to stir up a bit of racial hatred especially against Muslims.
That's ridiculous, there are laws in this country to stop that.
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Old 01 April 2011, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
As I have said many times on here the press love to stir up a bit of racial hatred especially against Muslims. Got told I was talking rubbish by the usual suspects I seem to remember, but here is yet more evidence!!!

As for reposting this story.... did we really need to discuss it again???
Islam isn't a race, it is a religion, it has nothing to do with genetics.

Is this article stirring up hatred of Islam and its fundamental adherents? How do you suggest this story should be written so as not to 'stir-up'?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-2259727.html

Silly pastor in Florida burns a Koran. Afghani men behead United Nations workers. How does that make you feel?

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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Silly pastor in Florida burns a Koran. Afghani men behead United Nations workers. How does that make you feel?
Start a thread, but be careful about being accused of Islamophobia.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Islam isn't a race, it is a religion, it has nothing to do with genetics.

Is this article stirring up hatred of Islam and its fundamental adherents? How do you suggest this story should be written so as not to 'stir-up'?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-2259727.html

Silly pastor in Florida burns a Koran. Afghani men behead United Nations workers. How does that make you feel?
There is a difference between reporting a story where the Muslim element is relevant to the story.

In the bacon one, it wasn't really. The bloke was annoyed by the smell, apparently his friends didn't like it too, but the slant was 'Muslims were offended'.

Perhaps fivetide is right here, the guy made it the issue in the hope it would strengthen his arguement, in that case I personally think he's a bit of a dick for taking advantage of his mates like that, and being responsible for more bad feeling towards them. All that aside, the papers were happy to report it in a certain manner, and I am sure they knew exactly what they were doing.

If the word Muslim hadn't factored in, I very much doubt the story would've been posted on here, twice now. I probably wouldn't have been as big a story in the papers either.
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
Islam isn't a race, it is a religion, it has nothing to do with genetics.

Is this article stirring up hatred of Islam and its fundamental adherents? How do you suggest this story should be written so as not to 'stir-up'?

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...n-2259727.html

Silly pastor in Florida burns a Koran. Afghani men behead United Nations workers. How does that make you feel?
And here is one of the usual suspects bang on cue.

There is little point discussing this as you have your views and I have mine. It will simply end in the usual bunfight that always happens when you try and pursue your agenda.

It has also been done to death before even down to the actual story on the thread so just leave it. We don't need any more of this crap in NSR!! Get back to your Libya thread and your new friend the RTM button!

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Old 01 April 2011, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
I'm not afraid to say, that I do think their culture is in many ways inferior to ours. It's not what I would value anyway.
Much of it is barren culturally. It's half the problem....a lack of culture as in arts, leanings, music, novels, theater etc. Their is only Islam and that does not innovate and bans anything else.

So they mob can only get its catharsis from political theater...railing against koran burnings etc, or Israel....or worse still actual violence.

The Greeks were more advanced.
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Old 01 April 2011, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Much of it is barren culturally. It's half the problem....a lack of culture as in arts, leanings, music, novels, theater etc. Their is only Islam and that does not innovate and bans anything else.

So they mob can only get its catharsis from political theater...railing against koran burnings etc, or Israel....or worse still actual violence.

The Greeks were more advanced.


Deleted my post, as it's just not worth the hassle (and wasn't stricly on topic). I'm starting to learn that when people have an idea in their head, there is very little chance of you changing it, even with the clearest logic and reason. I should probably just keep these things to myself. It's not as if I'm suddenly going to make a difference just by saying them.
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Originally Posted by Lisawrx
There is a difference between reporting a story where the Muslim element is relevant to the story.

In the bacon one, it wasn't really. The bloke was annoyed by the smell, apparently his friends didn't like it too, but the slant was 'Muslims were offended'.

Perhaps fivetide is right here, the guy made it the issue in the hope it would strengthen his arguement, in that case I personally think he's a bit of a dick for taking advantage of his mates like that, and being responsible for more bad feeling towards them. All that aside, the papers were happy to report it in a certain manner, and I am sure they knew exactly what they were doing.

If the word Muslim hadn't factored in, I very much doubt the story would've been posted on here, twice now. I probably wouldn't have been as big a story in the papers either.
I agree. As I am on record as saying, the Daily Mail story was abysmal journalism and serves to devalue what otherwise is a valid debate.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
And here is one of the usual suspects bang on cue.

There is little point discussing this as you have your views and I have mine. It will simply end in the usual bunfight that always happens when you try and pursue your agenda.

It has also been done to death before even down to the actual story on the thread so just leave it. We don't need any more of this crap in NSR!! Get back to your Libya thread and your new friend the RTM button!
Question avoided.
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Old 01 April 2011, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I agree. As I am on record as saying, the Daily Mail story was abysmal journalism and serves to devalue what otherwise is a valid debate.
As a cultural artifact you have to see it as more than that.

Point is the public are very conscious of Islam and make of that what you will. You could dismiss it as 'Islamophabia' and say the British public are bigots (like F1 does) or it could be another reason.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
As a cultural artifact you have to see it as more than that.

Point is the public are very conscious of Islam and make of that what you will. You could dismiss it as 'Islamophabia' and say the British public are bigots (like F1 does) or it could be another reason.
It is a friend and journalists taking advantage of a section of society for their own ends.

Nobody needs to do to death the subject of Islam again on this thread. The fact is, the Muslim element was irrelevant to the story being discussed.

Do you agree it was irrelevant in this case?
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
As a cultural artifact you have to see it as more than that.

Point is the public are very conscious of Islam and make of that what you will. You could dismiss it as 'Islamophabia' and say the British public are bigots (like F1 does) or it could be another reason.
I agree, but my beef with the Daily Mail is that they presented the story in such an unbalanced way that it devalues the honest, credible storys around the same or similar subject. It means that people like f1 can state: "As I have said many times on here the press love to stir up a bit of racial hatred especially against Muslims. Got told I was talking rubbish by the usual suspects I seem to remember, but here is yet more evidence!!!", and the gormless will respond "oh yeah".

Well, whilst it's not racism, it is dishonest, biased journalism. And whilst it's not 'the press' per se, it can indeed be cited as 'yet more evidence' by people with an anti-west agenda. The Daily Mail propagates ignorance on both sides of the debate.

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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss


Deleted my post, as it's just not worth the hassle (and wasn't stricly on topic). I'm starting to learn that when people have an idea in their head, there is very little chance of you changing it, even with the clearest logic and reason. I should probably just keep these things to myself. It's not as if I'm suddenly going to make a difference just by saying them.
It's about having the courage of your convictions, isn't it? If you think or feel that you may be subjected to abuse and slander owing to your worldview and subsequently shy away from expressing it, you aquiesce to veiled censorship and allow the view of the censor to dominate.

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Originally Posted by JTaylor
It's about having the courage of your convictions, isn't it? If you think or feel that you may be subjected to abuse and slander owing to your worldview and subsequently shy away from expressing it, you aquiesce to veiled censorship and allow the view of the censor to dominate.
Lol, not at all. It's that knowledge that posting something somewhere on an internet forum, possibly just in opposition to a few people, isn't going to make a difference to my life or the rest of the world. In other words, it's pointless. I would certainly have the courage if confronted or had others' ideas imposed on me; but, as it stands, on this Friday night, that isn't the case.

Besides, it was nothing to do with bacon.
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Originally Posted by GlesgaKiss
Lol, not at all. It's that knowledge that posting something somewhere on an internet forum, possibly just in opposition to a few people, isn't going to make a difference to my life or the rest of the world. In other words, it's pointless. I would certainly have the courage if confronted or had others' ideas imposed on me; but, as it stands, on this Friday night, that isn't the case.

Besides, it was nothing to do with bacon.
Fair enough.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Trout didn't seem to be talking about 'presentation' but facts in the OP.

As with any story the focus tend to be on what is relevant or of interest. In the current political climate of Islamic terrorism and the Islamification going on in the UK it is unsurprising such a stance was taken.

What rubbish are you talking now? Since when did you become a fully paid up member of the Stern Gang?

What Islamification? What about the current political climate of Islamophobia, usually stirred up by you?
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Originally Posted by banny sti
You're average daily fail reader....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIPD8qHhtVU

Oh, you managed to get some more photos of TDW then?

He's even smarter on video than he is on SN.
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
What rubbish are you talking now? Since when did you become a fully paid up member of the Stern Gang?

What Islamification? What about the current political climate of Islamophobia, usually stirred up by you?
What about the way you see increasing numbers of women wearing burka/hijab? 10 years ago you saw none.

How about the increasing numbers of mosques being being?

The incorporation of Islamic law into civil law.

The increase in Islamic faith schools.
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Start a thread, but be careful about being accused of Islamophobia.
If the cap fits Tone?

Why don't you get your mate JT to RTM this post? Yes, that's democracy and freedom of expression isn't it?
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
What about the way you see increasing numbers of women wearing burka/hijab? 10 years ago you saw none.

How about the increasing numbers of mosques being being?

The incorporation of Islamic law into civil law.

The increase in Islamic faith schools.
That's not 'Islamification' though is it? Not in the way that you like to peddle.

Anyway this thread has gone way off topic, should be closed, with some of the priceless utterings of the usual demented people recorded for posterity (and for future quoting back at them)
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Much of it is barren culturally. It's half the problem....a lack of culture as in arts, leanings, music, novels, theater etc. Their is only Islam and that does not innovate and bans anything else.

So they mob can only get its catharsis from political theater...railing against koran burnings etc, or Israel....or worse still actual violence.

The Greeks were more advanced.
You're so thick and your comments are so offensive, I will be RTMing your post, as that seems to be all the rage these days!
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Originally Posted by AsifScoob
You're so thick and your comments are so offensive, I will be RTMing your post, as that seems to be all the rage these days!
Asif, it is so boring, don't waste your time
I lost interest ages ago, some folks need to get a life
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I see the usual suspects are on form tonight

I won't waste my time trying to clean it up.
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