Madness - Police swoop on young sisters who picked daffodils in the park
16 March 2011, 04:59 PM
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I can only think that they have a special target to tick for people picking wild flowers so no wonder they rushed out there in a squad car. Of course when you think about it, it was a fairly safe "crime" for them to attend, not much chance of a couple of little girls attacking them.
Maybe next time they will do the job properly and call out the armed section to defend them as they nick the children.
I really hope they get the maximum publicity for such nonsense and that their embarrassment is total!
They really seem to have lost their way when it comes to dealing with the public these days!
Les
Maybe next time they will do the job properly and call out the armed section to defend them as they nick the children.
I really hope they get the maximum publicity for such nonsense and that their embarrassment is total!
They really seem to have lost their way when it comes to dealing with the public these days!
Les
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16 March 2011, 07:31 PM
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I didn't know Suggs and the boys were back together and putting new material out for release.
They need to reconsider the title of new album though; it's a bit of a mouthful.
They need to reconsider the title of new album though; it's a bit of a mouthful.
16 March 2011, 08:40 PM
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I like how people are going into the technicalities of picking flowers here. What a bunch of saps! Usually that's a guardian reader's speciality... just about crying at the sight of something so petty.
We don't know the facts here, but either way it's bloody pathetic getting the police involved in something like this. Did whoever reported them not have the ***** to say something themselves? Some sad people about.
We don't know the facts here, but either way it's bloody pathetic getting the police involved in something like this. Did whoever reported them not have the ***** to say something themselves? Some sad people about.
16 March 2011, 08:41 PM
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I can only think that they have a special target to tick for people picking wild flowers so no wonder they rushed out there in a squad car. Of course when you think about it, it was a fairly safe "crime" for them to attend, not much chance of a couple of little girls attacking them.
Maybe next time they will do the job properly and call out the armed section to defend them as they nick the children.
I really hope they get the maximum publicity for such nonsense and that their embarrassment is total!
They really seem to have lost their way when it comes to dealing with the public these days!
Les
Maybe next time they will do the job properly and call out the armed section to defend them as they nick the children.
I really hope they get the maximum publicity for such nonsense and that their embarrassment is total!
They really seem to have lost their way when it comes to dealing with the public these days!
Les
I don't particularly like flowers. But i do like my local parks to look warm and welcoming, rather than just a field with grass everywhere.
16 March 2011, 08:49 PM
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I like how people are going into the technicalities of picking flowers here. What a bunch of saps! Usually that's a guardian reader's speciality... just about crying at the sight of something so petty.
We don't know the facts here, but either way it's bloody pathetic getting the police involved in something like this. Did whoever reported them not have the ***** to say something themselves? Some sad people about.
We don't know the facts here, but either way it's bloody pathetic getting the police involved in something like this. Did whoever reported them not have the ***** to say something themselves? Some sad people about.
The witness called expecting PSCO to deal with it, but instead 2 constables turned up. Hopefully those kids will grow up with more respect for authorities. It's just typical of some people for not taking responsiblity of the action of their kids and rather than admitting blame to divert it from themselves.
The otherside of the story:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/gu...ng-daffodils/#
In the comments:
"Did anybody listen to Mr Adams on Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2? He stated that a member of his family spoke to the Errington-Marengos, but they were told where to go in direct terms (I think we can all guess the language used). The family continued to pick the flowers, at which point the police were called."
The otherside of the story:
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/gu...ng-daffodils/#
In the comments:
"Did anybody listen to Mr Adams on Jeremy Vine show on Radio 2? He stated that a member of his family spoke to the Errington-Marengos, but they were told where to go in direct terms (I think we can all guess the language used). The family continued to pick the flowers, at which point the police were called."
16 March 2011, 09:21 PM
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16 March 2011, 09:45 PM
#41
I can only think that they have a special target to tick for people picking wild flowers so no wonder they rushed out there in a squad car. Of course when you think about it, it was a fairly safe "crime" for them to attend, not much chance of a couple of little girls attacking them.
Maybe next time they will do the job properly and call out the armed section to defend them as they nick the children.
I really hope they get the maximum publicity for such nonsense and that their embarrassment is total!
They really seem to have lost their way when it comes to dealing with the public these days!
Les
Maybe next time they will do the job properly and call out the armed section to defend them as they nick the children.
I really hope they get the maximum publicity for such nonsense and that their embarrassment is total!
They really seem to have lost their way when it comes to dealing with the public these days!
Les
It was more than picking a couple of flowers and whilst at their age they may have known no better the parents should, and should have dealt with the little buggers. Perhaps if that had happened, the police wouldn't have been called.
Plus, considering you (like myself) think respect is becoming more rare, I would have thought you would actually support somebody stepping in, when the parents obviously didn't care.
16 March 2011, 10:05 PM
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16 March 2011, 10:08 PM
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16 March 2011, 10:21 PM
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"Hello, I'd like to report a stolen car. It was last seen with 2 children in the boot disturbing my daffodils"
It might just work.
"Hello, I'd like to report a house break-in. It appears my daffodils have been trodden down and in some cases the heads have been pulled off"
Looking good, eh?
"Hello, I'd like to report that some old doris has just been mugged by daffodil wielding thugs"
Has to work!
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16 March 2011, 11:15 PM
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If you Tolerate This, Then Your Children Will Be Next should have been a lesson to anyone.
16 March 2011, 11:29 PM
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How is this a 2 page thread... ahh the "Daily Mail Affect".
Kids "picking" flowers. Cops called. Advice given. Everyone happy.
Now, becuase the cops showed up its "OTT police again" etc etc. Christ, they did not baton the kids or lock up the parents. They said, scuse me, thats not a good idea... and everyone agreed and went on their way.
If the cops had not shown up the DM photographer would have been there in a flash showing the carnage of 1000s, perhaps millions, of flowers everywhere and how the cops "ignored" the calls for help, screams of the locals etc etc.
Complete w**k.
Kids "picking" flowers. Cops called. Advice given. Everyone happy.
Now, becuase the cops showed up its "OTT police again" etc etc. Christ, they did not baton the kids or lock up the parents. They said, scuse me, thats not a good idea... and everyone agreed and went on their way.
If the cops had not shown up the DM photographer would have been there in a flash showing the carnage of 1000s, perhaps millions, of flowers everywhere and how the cops "ignored" the calls for help, screams of the locals etc etc.
Complete w**k.
16 March 2011, 11:44 PM
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surely it's simple
if they are nice middle class parents, then a momentary lapse by exhausted parents and inquisitive children - with slight over reaction from plod
if the parents were Gypsies -- scum, simple as that, ferral children, thick parents, lock them up or deport them to Japan
if they are nice middle class parents, then a momentary lapse by exhausted parents and inquisitive children - with slight over reaction from plod
if the parents were Gypsies -- scum, simple as that, ferral children, thick parents, lock them up or deport them to Japan
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17 March 2011, 06:44 PM
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I must admit I'm quite surprised by your take on this.
It was more than picking a couple of flowers and whilst at their age they may have known no better the parents should, and should have dealt with the little buggers. Perhaps if that had happened, the police wouldn't have been called.
Plus, considering you (like myself) think respect is becoming more rare, I would have thought you would actually support somebody stepping in, when the parents obviously didn't care.
It was more than picking a couple of flowers and whilst at their age they may have known no better the parents should, and should have dealt with the little buggers. Perhaps if that had happened, the police wouldn't have been called.
Plus, considering you (like myself) think respect is becoming more rare, I would have thought you would actually support somebody stepping in, when the parents obviously didn't care.
I certainly don't support vandalism of course, and agree that parents should be responsible enough to control their children. Wonder where the council got the idea that they were ripping them out in clumps.
I commented with the impression that I had in mind from the description of the incident.
Les
17 March 2011, 07:55 PM
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I have to say that I got the impression from the link that tthe children had picked a few daffodils, about ten each or so. The coppers had been watching for a while as well. Did not seem from that that they were tearing the flower plants out of the ground. Surely if they had been then the coppers would have stopped them earlier.
I certainly don't support vandalism of course, and agree that parents should be responsible enough to control their children. Wonder where the council got the idea that they were ripping them out in clumps.
I commented with the impression that I had in mind from the description of the incident.
Les
I certainly don't support vandalism of course, and agree that parents should be responsible enough to control their children. Wonder where the council got the idea that they were ripping them out in clumps.
I commented with the impression that I had in mind from the description of the incident.
Les
That "ten" flower heads ripped off each day soon addds up and means therse nothing left.
Les, i know its not the crime of the century but its very frustrating to the staff and the decent members of the public, to see what would of been a great display of spring flowers reduced to nothing- be that because of people helping themselves and other lowlifes such as horrible teenagers or even young kids who should be taught right from wrong by there parents ( though i suspect there parents are "undesirables", so no hope for the kids!)
From your replies, i know you seem to think its all petty but it wrecks flower beds that would bring pleasure to many people and id put money on it that a lot of these kids/"adults" would also derive pleasure from keying your car or worse- those young unsupervised kids will be tommorows trouble!!
18 March 2011, 06:02 PM
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Well, as i said earlier. iam a Head Gardener in a park and we have considerable vandalism to flower beds and daff dislays each year.
That "ten" flower heads ripped off each day soon addds up and means therse nothing left.
Les, i know its not the crime of the century but its very frustrating to the staff and the decent members of the public, to see what would of been a great display of spring flowers reduced to nothing- be that because of people helping themselves and other lowlifes such as horrible teenagers or even young kids who should be taught right from wrong by there parents ( though i suspect there parents are "undesirables", so no hope for the kids!)
From your replies, i know you seem to think its all petty but it wrecks flower beds that would bring pleasure to many people and id put money on it that a lot of these kids/"adults" would also derive pleasure from keying your car or worse- those young unsupervised kids will be tommorows trouble!!
That "ten" flower heads ripped off each day soon addds up and means therse nothing left.
Les, i know its not the crime of the century but its very frustrating to the staff and the decent members of the public, to see what would of been a great display of spring flowers reduced to nothing- be that because of people helping themselves and other lowlifes such as horrible teenagers or even young kids who should be taught right from wrong by there parents ( though i suspect there parents are "undesirables", so no hope for the kids!)
From your replies, i know you seem to think its all petty but it wrecks flower beds that would bring pleasure to many people and id put money on it that a lot of these kids/"adults" would also derive pleasure from keying your car or worse- those young unsupervised kids will be tommorows trouble!!
My impression from the originaL post and the link was that the girls were not being so destructive as to rip the place apart and that they picked a few flowers as any child might do.
I wondered why if they were causing serious damage as the councillor reported that the coppers watched the girls for twenty minutes instead of stopping their actions immediately. Seemed a big waste of police time. It was not as though they were tearing clumps of daffodil plants out of the ground.
The councillor himself could have attended and told the parents that the children were acting illegally if he felt that strongly about it.
It seemed over the top to call out two coppers for what appeared to be a minor infringement especially when we hear that these days it is difficult to get a copper to come out at all if a significant crime has been committed, or at best that they will arrive when it is all over anyway.
Perhap's Felix could tell us if he would have spent 20 minutes of his valuable time watching the girls.
Les
18 March 2011, 06:18 PM
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Given Northants police cannot be bothered respond to a 999 that became a murder i would say 2 officers observing daffodills being picked by children was overkill
http://81.187.243.53/blog/?p=3181
http://81.187.243.53/blog/?p=3181
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18 March 2011, 06:35 PM
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Given Northants police cannot respond to murders i would say it was overkill
http://81.187.243.53/blog/?p=3181
http://81.187.243.53/blog/?p=3181
Now that is a shocking story.
19 March 2011, 07:20 AM
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Just flicking through this thread, didn’t the person approach the parent’s but got a load of abuse from them. If that’s the case, then where is his next port of call? Does he just walk off and ignore the matter. Would he be ok with everyone picking flowers from the park when ever we want.
I suspect that 20 minutes is a bit of an over estimate, but the police would probably have observed the pair whilst speaking with the caller to ensure it was the right 2.
I wouldn’t have spent that long on this, but if it’s a simple telling off of the girls and the parents and there is a police unit nearby – then why not use them.
As for the 2 ignoring the murder – don’t put me in the same barrow as them. That’s totally unacceptable. Where we are, we end up getting stood down from calls as there are too many of us shouting up for them.
I suspect that 20 minutes is a bit of an over estimate, but the police would probably have observed the pair whilst speaking with the caller to ensure it was the right 2.
I wouldn’t have spent that long on this, but if it’s a simple telling off of the girls and the parents and there is a police unit nearby – then why not use them.
As for the 2 ignoring the murder – don’t put me in the same barrow as them. That’s totally unacceptable. Where we are, we end up getting stood down from calls as there are too many of us shouting up for them.
19 March 2011, 08:30 AM
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The Local councillor did correct in informing the police
He would of probably got a load of abuse from the parents himself who should be encouraging the kids not to pick flowers
Police are there to act on any reports
I'm a councillor myself and any of us would have done exactly the same thing
We spend a lot of tax payers money and lots of time in making our town look nice and erect
Please don't pick the flowers signs to stop this sort of thing
Our local police are so desperate for jobs
I got 10 koi stolen a few years ago and had 7 police attend
Neighbours must of thought I'd murdered the misses
He would of probably got a load of abuse from the parents himself who should be encouraging the kids not to pick flowers
Police are there to act on any reports
I'm a councillor myself and any of us would have done exactly the same thing
We spend a lot of tax payers money and lots of time in making our town look nice and erect
Please don't pick the flowers signs to stop this sort of thing
Our local police are so desperate for jobs
I got 10 koi stolen a few years ago and had 7 police attend
Neighbours must of thought I'd murdered the misses