SRSport

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dan83590

This Cyclingmonkey has uploaded over 110 videos to YouTube. I bet he has one of those faces that you want to punch....

This sort of is the point. If Cyclingmonkey is this worried about the state of everyone elses driving why the **** does he continue to risk everything on the roads every day. Why doe he not get to work via a different mode of transport?

I have the answer. It's not because he has no other mode of transport and he is forced to cycle. It is because he is a complete *** ******* tool that loves to wind people up, he loves to feel that bit of power, because really deep inside he is a coward. He probably wnaks himself as he uploads the vids to youtube.

Kieran_Burns

iTrader: (1)

Did you guys see the BBC this morning?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=af4n6wZCgs0

The first accident is infamous on cycling forums.... the original footage shows the blood.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvJBNiEVSug

SRSport

That is a good video to watch in so much that it makes you stop and think much more than the videos that just get your back up from Mikey. I can understand people using them properly and am thinking about getting a dash mounted camera myself purely for protection against insurance fraudsters. I certainly am not intending to make it my job to start policing and honking at people and then putting it up on youtube.

dan83590

Well that video highlights another point.

I have nearly been in this situation a number of times. You approach a mini roundabout, prepare to pull out and a cyclist comes from nowhere at 25 - 35 mph. The cyclist makes no attempt to slow up as they approach the roundabout! If I were in the exact same situation in my car I'd be slowing down a touch to make sure the car had seen me.

I know it's more difficult for a cyclist to get up to speed again but that is, to be frank, tough sh!te. Other road users slow down regularly to avoid a near miss and some cyclists (as road users also) must start to do the same. How many times have you seen a stream of cyclists ride straight through a red light eh?

The fact of the matter is a cyclist CANNOT ride on a piece of one inch aluminium tubing at 25 - 35 mph everywhere without stopping or slowing to observe what other road users are doing.

As cycling becomes more popular (I even enjoy a ride out, I have two bikes!) other road users will HAVE to become more aware of cyclists, but, the flip side of the coin is that cyclists will have to be responsible for their own riding style. These headcams will prove one way or another who is at fault.

SRSport

I agree that he could have slowed down a bit and apply some common sense but that accident was 100% the drivers fault. As a driver I cant take for granted that cyclists will accommodate for my mistakes and watching this just highlights that.

dan83590

Everyone knows the highway code says give way to the right but in reality who has more to lose?

I certainly would not hurl my body towards something at 30mph that may move into my path...! I know that sounds nasty but it's the reality of these situations.

The cyclist in this instance may be right in the eyes of the law but he will have also learned a valuable lesson, trust nobody when so much is gambled. IMO the cyclist in this film is more stupid than the driver of the car.

Wheather in a car, van, lorry or on a bicycle NEVER EVER assume right of way. This guy got lucky, he lived.

RS74

just watched a few of his videos, how he has'nt been twa*ed i don't know ....
wot a ****

T5NYW

iTrader: (4)

Give all the cyclists numberplates and road tax then WE can film them having absolutely no regard for ANY traffic regulation,

At the moment the law seems to be a one-way system....... that obviouslythe cyclists will ignore

Tony

Wilky_Boy

Agreed ! As a cyclist ( and biker and car driver ) I can understand that he gets p1ssed off by thoughtless road users, but what a complete **** !!!

andy-m

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what that film doesnt show is if the cyclist stuck his arm out to indicate he was goin right at the roundabout and not straight on.

NickAdams

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This guy and his horn remind me of the Peter Kay sketch from "That Peter Kay Thing" (In the bingo hall) when Keith Lard explains to his interviewer "the horn...they don't like the horn...i like to give them the horn"

New_scooby_04

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It's true: vigilance and defensive driving/riding is required on BOTH sides.

Both parties could have dealt with that scenario much more effectively.

- The Bike should have slowed down for negotiating the roundabout. This would have given the car driver more time to see the bike exercising it's right of way
- The car should have made better observation before pulling out of the roundabout.

Had either done the above, the accident probably wouldn't have happened.

scoobystue

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well i drive a scoob and a truck so i guess im a proper menace to this knobber!! if i go past him in me truck ill give him a double blast on my airhorns and see him fly off into the ditch

Fleetwood

Totally agree.

I cycled all over London for about 10 years before moving out and getting a bike and a car. First year I had a small accident, was the cars fault but that is small consolation!

Changed my riding style, signaled more clearly, always looked back over my shoulder and looked what the car was doing before overtaking parked cars or roadworks, slow down at junctions and roundabouts and try to make eye contact with the cars on your left, don't run red lights.

No more accidents.

Still... don't really understand all the hatred that cyclists get, lets face it if you have an accident with one its only going to be a bit of paint correction. Truck and big 4x4's clashes...harder to sort out with T-Cut.

CyclingMikey

Morning all, amused at some of the comments on here about my videos. I quite like scoobys, nice cars and most are beautifully driven in my experience.

For those who doubt the 100mph past me, rightly so, but I never claimed that. If you watch the original video again, you'll see that it was 100mph past the witness (a third party), or so the witness claimed, and not past me. I hope their observation is better on the road than when watching videos.

I actually rather respect Dan for learning from the original mistake and getting better. That is way ahead of most drivers, and it's only fair he got publicity for that exemplary piece of driving.
D4N OK Excellent overtake

With a 45 mile round trip commute, I get to interact with many thousands of drivers every week. Most people are lovely, and less than 1 in 5000 driver interactions ever make it onto youtube. I'll bet that you come across more than 1 in 5000 bad drivers in your own experiences on the road. I have rather fewer videos uploaded than many of the more prolific youtubers. Whilst there are a number of car drivers using video, the majority are cyclists and motorcyclists. It seems we bear the brunt of careless driving and bullying behaviour from the very few bad motorists out there.

As for being in the centre of lane, there are often good reasons for being there, and use of this is taught as part of the National Standards cycling syllabus. Some good reasons include going through road narrowings, on the approach to and across junctions. Cyclists should leave around 7 feet when passing parked cars too, due to the danger of a carelessly opened door.

CyclingMikey

Oh, and if you want to enjoy some crazy and bad cycling antics, check out the Silly Cyclists series by gaz545 on youtube. I've submitted a few videos of lunatics on bicycles to gaz myself, and don't like bad cyclists any more than you guys do.

SRSport

Of course you are cycling mikey. Can you prove it?

CyclingMikey

Should I need to? Send me a code word on my YouTube account, and I'll repost it here, or perhaps we should both get a life? LOLOL!

SRSport

Perhaps, but I was in an IT meeting, bored ridged and with nothing better to do.


There are a few people on here that need to get a life, even more than the two of us , winding people up by taking on different aliases with the sole purpose of starting a fight and causing a rift.

scoobyman.matt

HA HA socks with sandles classic
When they pay insurance to pay for my "small paint correction" and get registration plates then they can use all the road space they want. I drive in cambridge and they think they are immune to the rules of the road.

muzzler

New government legislation in the pipeline for cyclists is going to be warmly received by all

Steve001

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cyclingmickey if it is you??? on here then you should take a page from your own book

on this vid you claim you had to take avoiding action??? i reviewed it several times and you (if at all) moved a couple of inches at most

more to the point at the end of the video you entered what looked like a cycle refuge(sp?) area, thats fine, but you then decide that you can cross the stop line!

oh dear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp4NZPB8oz0

CyclingMikey

Nobody pays "road tax" mate. That's because it's the public highway, and everyone's council and income tax contributes towards the roads. A wise man abolished the road fund licence back in the 1930s specifically so drivers couldn't claim the public highway as theirs, when it is for use by everyone.

As for insurance, I have it, as do many other cyclists. The reason it's not required as for drivers is because cyclists rarely cause injury or damage.

That's fair enough, and I'd be quite happy with equal treatment for all road users who kill another. I guess you realise when driving we all have a free ride? There's very little danger of getting punished severely for killing/injuring someone in a car. Not only that, but IIRC 3 people were killed on the pavement by cyclists in 10 years. In the same period, something like 800 were killed by drivers, also on the pavement.

I'm not picking on drivers, just trying to show the fair reality of life on the roads for us all. We are the same human beings, with the same sort of close family relationships, and you'll get tossers who'll behave that way no matter what form of transport they use.

I did take avoiding action - braking. You can even see me pull the brake lever when I anticipate his driving. Secondly, it might look like I crossed the second stop line from the camera angle, but my front wheel is below my knees and I didn't actually cross it.

Technically, I did cross the first stop line illegally into the ASL (advanced stop line) and green bike area). There's some legislative weirdness that means it's only legal to enter it via the small cycle feeder lane you sometimes see. Some ASLs don't have this through poor implementation, so it's technically illegal to enter or use them at all. Madness! Anyway, if you think this is something worth picking on, then it's not me that needs to get a life! I'm not one of those cyclists that'll pick on drivers or motorcyclists for going in the green box when they're not allowed to. There are bigger things to worry about.

It doesn't even slightly compare with the driver changing lanes into me whilst next to me, or the aggressive pushy driving he did behind me, which you can't see because I wasn't running a rear camera then.

CyclingMikey

Oh @Steve001, there's a couple of other bits I forgot about from the above video. You see how my lane splits into two? I had planned to take the right one, but was prevented by his lane change. Secondly, notice the silver car in front of him right across the stop line?

muzzler

[quote=CyclingMikey;9986875]
That's fair enough, and I'd be quite happy with equal treatment for all road users who kill another. I guess you realise when driving we all have a free ride? There's very little danger of getting punished severely for killing/injuring someone in a car. Not only that, but IIRC 3 people were killed on the pavement by cyclists in 10 years. In the same period, something like 800 were killed by drivers, also on the pavement.

That because of the ratio of crivers to cyclists

Steve001

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oh dear oh dear the silver car has nothing to do with it and yes i did notice it.

However, your memory fails you my friend, this was your comment on this incident.

"Incorrect - he passed so close that I had to move over rather than carry on as I had planned to. The only reason there was no collision is because I moved sideways to avoid his bad and aggressive driving."

Bad_HatHarry

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Im sorry but your just a bad cyclist.

Is that why you dont drive either, cos you cant.

I have no pity for some cyclists after seeing what alot of them do.

I saw a cyclist knock a motobike rider off in london on monday whilst he was sitting at the lights, that was after he took off most of the paint on my van trying to get through.

My girlfriend has almost had herself scooped up as they shoot through a red light or zebra crossing just as your going to cross.

muzzler

Its because of the lack of accountability cyclist have..you'd have to sue them to get any money for the repairs etc

Taffy223

He's being a **** head and deliberately placing his bike in the way of traffic when there is no need.
He's the common denominator in all his clips..therefore I'd say he's the one with the problem

The way he's going I'm sure he has a short life span and Darwin will claim him

Taffy