Car Is Off The Road For A While...
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Glad your getting it sorted, been down this road before and always difficult when your shelling out money on "maintenance", always best to spend a little more and get some gain out of it.
There will always be future mods and you don't want to look back and think, wish I did it that way now! You can then drive the car with peace of mind knowing the engine will take it
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There will always be future mods and you don't want to look back and think, wish I did it that way now! You can then drive the car with peace of mind knowing the engine will take it
Simb
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Glad you found out what was happenning, even if it was THE hard way - great shopping there Ty, hope to see it back soon
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Just thought I'd update this thread with the cause of the failure and what's happening.
The cause of the problem has been identified as a leaking head gasket/warped head which was allowing exhaust gases into the coolant.
The engine is now having a full rebuild, the heads been skimmed and the engine crankcase will be checked/skimmed and honed by Advanced Automotives. The following uprated components are being used:
Cometic Head Gaskets
ARP Head Stud Conversion
Mahle Forged Pistons
Eagle Forged H Section Connecting Rods With ARP Bolts
ACL Race Big End, Main And Thrust Bearings
RCM Water Pump
Uprated Thermostat
Advanced Automotive Inlet Manifold Spacers
Carl Davey Header Tank Spacers
Mocal/Setrab Competition Oil Cooler
Hyperflow Coolant Resevoir
Perrin Oil Catch Can
AP Racing/STi Group N Competition Clutch
Harvey Smith Turbo Blanket
APS FMIC & CAIK
Kakumei CF Reverse Bonnet Scoop
Full Samco Engine Hose Set
I'm sure that there is some items I've forgotten as well.
The cause of the problem has been identified as a leaking head gasket/warped head which was allowing exhaust gases into the coolant.
The engine is now having a full rebuild, the heads been skimmed and the engine crankcase will be checked/skimmed and honed by Advanced Automotives. The following uprated components are being used:
Cometic Head Gaskets
ARP Head Stud Conversion
Mahle Forged Pistons
Eagle Forged H Section Connecting Rods With ARP Bolts
ACL Race Big End, Main And Thrust Bearings
RCM Water Pump
Uprated Thermostat
Advanced Automotive Inlet Manifold Spacers
Carl Davey Header Tank Spacers
Mocal/Setrab Competition Oil Cooler
Hyperflow Coolant Resevoir
Perrin Oil Catch Can
AP Racing/STi Group N Competition Clutch
Harvey Smith Turbo Blanket
APS FMIC & CAIK
Kakumei CF Reverse Bonnet Scoop
Full Samco Engine Hose Set
I'm sure that there is some items I've forgotten as well.
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Glad you've found the route of the problem there ty, bet it was a bot of relief(if at all possible) so see it damaged and there was nothing else. Cracking shopping list, growing all the time with you!
hope she's sorted out soon enough for you so you can do a bit of crusising in this nice sunshine weve been blessed with of late, shades on, ABBA on full whack, and elbow hangin out the window!!!
Good luck with the proj and keep us apdated!
Rob
hope she's sorted out soon enough for you so you can do a bit of crusising in this nice sunshine weve been blessed with of late, shades on, ABBA on full whack, and elbow hangin out the window!!!
Good luck with the proj and keep us apdated!
Rob
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I doubt very much the warped head was the cause of the head gasket failure, it's more likely the warped head was a symptom of the gasket failure due to the engine over heating once the gasket had failed.
The initial cause sounds like one of the heads lifted due to a stretched head bolt. As this would only occur during the turbo starting to boost and cause a hesitation and whlist off boost and at idle etc the car wouldn't show any signs of a head gasket failure, until eventually the engine over heated and warped the head.
The stretched head bolt was most likely caused by a boost spike as the bolt or bolts were subjected to a force greater than their tensile strength. Then once the bolts had passed their elasticity range they lacked the strength to secure the cylinder whilst the engine came on boost.
Good luck with the new Ty
The initial cause sounds like one of the heads lifted due to a stretched head bolt. As this would only occur during the turbo starting to boost and cause a hesitation and whlist off boost and at idle etc the car wouldn't show any signs of a head gasket failure, until eventually the engine over heated and warped the head.
The stretched head bolt was most likely caused by a boost spike as the bolt or bolts were subjected to a force greater than their tensile strength. Then once the bolts had passed their elasticity range they lacked the strength to secure the cylinder whilst the engine came on boost.
Good luck with the new Ty
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[quote=bluerigster;9935725]I doubt very much the warped head was the cause of the head gasket failure, it's more likely the warped head was a symptom of the gasket failure due to the engine over heating once the gasket had failed.
The initial cause sounds like one of the heads lifted due to a stretched head bolt. As this would only occur during the turbo starting to boost and cause a hesitation and whlist off boost and at idle etc the car wouldn't show any signs of a head gasket failure, until eventually the engine over heated and warped the head.
The stretched head bolt was most likely caused by a boost spike as the bolt or bolts were subjected to a force greater than their tensile strength. Then once the bolts had passed their elasticity range they lacked the strength to secure the cylinder whilst the engine came on boost.
That's exactly what i thought it was!!! have got very limited knowledge me, but what your saying deffo makes sense even for a numb nut liker me!!
The initial cause sounds like one of the heads lifted due to a stretched head bolt. As this would only occur during the turbo starting to boost and cause a hesitation and whlist off boost and at idle etc the car wouldn't show any signs of a head gasket failure, until eventually the engine over heated and warped the head.
The stretched head bolt was most likely caused by a boost spike as the bolt or bolts were subjected to a force greater than their tensile strength. Then once the bolts had passed their elasticity range they lacked the strength to secure the cylinder whilst the engine came on boost.
That's exactly what i thought it was!!! have got very limited knowledge me, but what your saying deffo makes sense even for a numb nut liker me!!
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I doubt very much the warped head was the cause of the head gasket failure, it's more likely the warped head was a symptom of the gasket failure due to the engine over heating once the gasket had failed.
The initial cause sounds like one of the heads lifted due to a stretched head bolt. As this would only occur during the turbo starting to boost and cause a hesitation and whlist off boost and at idle etc the car wouldn't show any signs of a head gasket failure, until eventually the engine over heated and warped the head.
The stretched head bolt was most likely caused by a boost spike as the bolt or bolts were subjected to a force greater than their tensile strength. Then once the bolts had passed their elasticity range they lacked the strength to secure the cylinder whilst the engine came on boost.
Good luck with the new Ty
The initial cause sounds like one of the heads lifted due to a stretched head bolt. As this would only occur during the turbo starting to boost and cause a hesitation and whlist off boost and at idle etc the car wouldn't show any signs of a head gasket failure, until eventually the engine over heated and warped the head.
The stretched head bolt was most likely caused by a boost spike as the bolt or bolts were subjected to a force greater than their tensile strength. Then once the bolts had passed their elasticity range they lacked the strength to secure the cylinder whilst the engine came on boost.
Good luck with the new Ty
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The stretched head bolt was most likely caused by a boost spike as the bolt or bolts were subjected to a force greater than their tensile strength. Then once the bolts had passed their elasticity range they lacked the strength to secure the cylinder whilst the engine came on boost.
Good luck with the new Ty
Good luck with the new Ty
Buy I do agree its a head bolt failure rather than a head. Just thought id explained myself
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Glad your getting it sorted, been down this road before and always difficult when your shelling out money on "maintenance", always best to spend a little more and get some gain out of it.
There will always be future mods and you don't want to look back and think, wish I did it that way now! You can then drive the car with peace of mind knowing the engine will take it
Simb
There will always be future mods and you don't want to look back and think, wish I did it that way now! You can then drive the car with peace of mind knowing the engine will take it
Simb
Cheers Lee, I hope it will be capable of handling up to 600bhp but it will never be run to that level but the option is always there but 450-500bhp is my goal.
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Glad you've found the route of the problem there ty, bet it was a bot of relief(if at all possible) so see it damaged and there was nothing else. Cracking shopping list, growing all the time with you!
hope she's sorted out soon enough for you so you can do a bit of crusising in this nice sunshine weve been blessed with of late, shades on, ABBA on full whack, and elbow hangin out the window!!!
Good luck with the proj and keep us apdated!
Rob
hope she's sorted out soon enough for you so you can do a bit of crusising in this nice sunshine weve been blessed with of late, shades on, ABBA on full whack, and elbow hangin out the window!!!
Good luck with the proj and keep us apdated!
Rob
I doubt very much the warped head was the cause of the head gasket failure, it's more likely the warped head was a symptom of the gasket failure due to the engine over heating once the gasket had failed.
The initial cause sounds like one of the heads lifted due to a stretched head bolt. As this would only occur during the turbo starting to boost and cause a hesitation and whlist off boost and at idle etc the car wouldn't show any signs of a head gasket failure, until eventually the engine over heated and warped the head.
The stretched head bolt was most likely caused by a boost spike as the bolt or bolts were subjected to a force greater than their tensile strength. Then once the bolts had passed their elasticity range they lacked the strength to secure the cylinder whilst the engine came on boost.
Good luck with the new Ty
The initial cause sounds like one of the heads lifted due to a stretched head bolt. As this would only occur during the turbo starting to boost and cause a hesitation and whlist off boost and at idle etc the car wouldn't show any signs of a head gasket failure, until eventually the engine over heated and warped the head.
The stretched head bolt was most likely caused by a boost spike as the bolt or bolts were subjected to a force greater than their tensile strength. Then once the bolts had passed their elasticity range they lacked the strength to secure the cylinder whilst the engine came on boost.
Good luck with the new Ty
I'll see if I can find a link to the scoop for you.
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Can I be really picky and correct you, if the bolt had reached its UTS as you suggested then it would be out of its elastic limit completely. You don't want your head bolts to be elastic as all that is why stretch bolts are used to take them out of there elastic zone. Thus why you should never reuse head bolts.
Buy I do agree its a head bolt failure rather than a head. Just thought id explained myself
Buy I do agree its a head bolt failure rather than a head. Just thought id explained myself
I accept your apology in advance Dylan. ;-D
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Kev, here's the link for the CF reverse bonnet scoop.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2004-05-WRX-ST...item335de54d60
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2004-05-WRX-ST...item335de54d60
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I won't be looking to change for a long while yet Glenn, I'm not doing all this for someone else's benefit.
It certainly won't be lacking in terms of potential for future power upgrades.
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Kev, here's the link for the CF reverse bonnet scoop.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2004-05-WRX-ST...item335de54d60
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2004-05-WRX-ST...item335de54d60
Thanks Ty
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If anything I have gone and over specified the components (to allow for any future power upgrades) and the engine should be able to handle 500bhp easily with the option to go up to around 600bhp if I want to later on.
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Well I've picked the block up today from Advanced Automotive after they did me a big favour and managed to get the machining done.
The block was warped and needed to be skimmed by just under 0.3mm at the deck surface, the bores have been honed and re-bored to accomodate the 92.5mm Mahle forged pistons.
The final spec list for the engine is
Cometic Head Gaskets
ARP Head Stud Conversion
Mahle Power Pack Plus 2618 Forged Pistons
Manley Sport Forged Rods With ARP Bolts
ACL Race Big End, Main And Thrust Bearings
RCM Water Pump
Uprated Thermostat
Advanced Automotive Inlet Manifold Spacers
Carl Davey Header Tank Spacers
Mocal/Setrab Competition Oil Cooler
Hyperflow Coolant Resevoir
Perrin Oil Catch Can
AP Racing/STi Group N Competition Clutch
Harvey Smith Turbo Blanket
APS FMIC & CAIK
Kakumei CF Reverse Bonnet Scoop
Full Samco Engine Hose Set
And I hope nothing else except...
An upgraded twin scroll coming soonish.
The block was warped and needed to be skimmed by just under 0.3mm at the deck surface, the bores have been honed and re-bored to accomodate the 92.5mm Mahle forged pistons.
The final spec list for the engine is
Cometic Head Gaskets
ARP Head Stud Conversion
Mahle Power Pack Plus 2618 Forged Pistons
Manley Sport Forged Rods With ARP Bolts
ACL Race Big End, Main And Thrust Bearings
RCM Water Pump
Uprated Thermostat
Advanced Automotive Inlet Manifold Spacers
Carl Davey Header Tank Spacers
Mocal/Setrab Competition Oil Cooler
Hyperflow Coolant Resevoir
Perrin Oil Catch Can
AP Racing/STi Group N Competition Clutch
Harvey Smith Turbo Blanket
APS FMIC & CAIK
Kakumei CF Reverse Bonnet Scoop
Full Samco Engine Hose Set
And I hope nothing else except...
An upgraded twin scroll coming soonish.
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