Decent JDM hawkeyes don't sell for pennies, a decent one with low miles is going to cost 15k.

 

Just paid £13.500 for a Uk 07 cdnt find anything close to 15k saying that cdnt find any 06-07 jdm at all 18k black type 20 was closest off here.

 

Spec C type 20 for £15500 - here

 

Not really, a UK hawk runs 1k less on the rev counter, so 7k v 8k, you will find there isnt much difference, if anything the JDM makes for a better driver, I have yet to find myself in the "wrong" gear as the powerband keeps it lively and you dont change gear as much as you think

Tony

 

That's a cracking result mate.

Not to detract from that, but it's worth pointing out that my 380 lbs ft was obtained with the PPP exhaust, stick a less restrictive system (e.g. Miltek like yours) on there, and you'd get 400lbs + comfortably. Like for like the 2.5 generally produces about 25% more torque than the same 2.0 set up.

 

Dammm that was 18k before i brought mine last week now if i offered £15,500 i would of been told dont take the **** now u see why i offer the ammounts i do at times

 

Not true, the twin scroll cars WILL push out more torque, your looking at 380-400lbs of torque on the standard turbo with the correct mods, that would mean a 2.5 would be pushing 500lbs on its normal turbo, not possible

Tony

 

Definitely not on a std turbo!! I'd say, as with most things mod related, there is a law of diminishing returns operating - the higher the level of tune on the std turbo the less the difference.

But I'd bet mod for mod on the 2.5 producing more torque and spooling quicker though!

Interestingly I've just spoken to a SN member (having a built engine done the same time as me) who is going from a twin scroll 2.0 to a forged 2.5, which surprised me. Most twin scroll owners, like you, don't want to go bigger!

 

Ive driven a 2.5 and a 2ltr twin scroll and the twin scroll was the quicker spooling hence why alot of manufacturers are going that way now.
The standard 2ltr isnt as good spool wise, the 2.5 sort of bluffs you a little but the 2ltr twin scroll gives you the best of both worlds, yet the 2.5 is still laggier, now make it a twin scroll and yes, it will be much better, and the new LM turbo's give better power on the 2ltr twin scroll, to gain the best from the 2.5 you need to go BIG bhp, thats when cc starts to show where its got the advantage, but it would be good to see a 2.5 v a 2ltr twin scroll (did evo do it?) as the twin scroll will have the advantage

Tony

 

That was for sale at that price last week I think. You could probably flog that White Sti & buy the spec c pretty easily.

 

That'll make 'im feel good!

 

That sounds about right. I bought a 57 plate one from the dealers for £13,995 two months back. One owner, 18k.

 

What does the PPP actually consist of on the 2.5 STI?

Any idea how much similar parts from another manufacturer and a remap would cost? I quite like the sound of 350hp so might get saving!

 

PPP consists of a prodrive exhaust, ECU & panel filter. Not sure on the cost but IRO £1600 IIRC.

Miltek sports cat 3" exhaust, panel filter & own source map was £1400 ish & produced better figures than a PPP would.

 

When you say exhaust, is it just the back box or are any cats removed?

 

It wasn't meant in a derogatory manner. :/

 

Thought that, wouldn't be in character!

 

Just back box and centre section AFAIK mate, no cats removed.

That and a remap and job's an .....average one!

 

Nice one! I'll get saving

 

With the head Gasket problem , if the engine is fully forged, gaskets etc, will that resolve the issue?

 

It will resolve the gasket problem, the issue is with the block itself, you can only take so much metal out of an engine and they took about as much as you could with the 2.5's, hence you get issues with liners, gaskets etc, so where as you see alot of high powered build 2.5's, alot are living on the edge of what they are capable of.

Tony

 

what dealer was it from ? before i brought my white hawk i checked prices and they was anything from 13-15k depending on miles colour history spec, but from a dealer 14k was cheap mate with 18k on the clock ..

 

That will be me I guess....Why did it surprise you? 2.0 twin scroll to a 2.5 twin scroll. I just hope it suits my "driving like a pensioner" style..

 

LOL, yep, that's you mate, you beat me to a reply to your pm.

Surprised as you're the first person I know who's gone from a 2.0 twin scroll set up to a 2.5. twin scroll

The 2.5 twin scroll will definitely suit your driving style: when I first asked David at APi about the single scroll upgrade, he didn't say: check out the 0-60. He said ask another SN member (who has had the work done) about what happens when you put your foot down in 5th at 1800rpm.

Fifth gear you'll note and yes, 1800rpm. Gone are the days when scoobies didn't get out of bed for less than 3.5k rpm! Twins scroll 2.5 will presumably be even better!!!!

Didn't realise the SC46 came in a twin scroll variant.

Are you as anxious as me to get the car back and run in?!?!

 

Im contemplating a gear change at 3.5k rpm
SC42 twin scroll, SC46 twin scroll and the LM range too so lots of variants to choose from.
Yes, but as the car has been off the road for about a year now, a few more weeks wont hurt...

 

Sparshatts in Southampton mate. It came as it is on my profile.
They've a grey 07 with 44k up at £13k at the moment with 12 months Subaru warrenty.

 

My old car is for sale again: http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/2335150.htm

It was an immense road car and never had an issue with it. Unfortunately fell into the expensive road tax by about 6 days though. Unless you are preparing a track car the old JDM argument is codswallop IMO.

390Lbs/Ft of torque with a decat and a remap.

 

Tell us more.

 

Its only UK owners that will say that, any owner of a twin scroll car will tell you there is no codswallop, ive seen more than enough 2ltr twin scroll cars push virtually the same torque on the standard turbo v standard turbo, and thats with half a litre less

The twin scroll is the nicer engine, best of both worlds and mine pulls from around 17-1800rpm

Tony

 

JDM is worth it for the cheap tax alone, I'm saving £230 a year on my 2008 spec c so it pays for a service every 6k.

mike