Snow on the roof 3 points and £60 fine
01 December 2010, 09:47 PM
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I 'guess' it could become a hazzard for other motorists.
But then again this is where it could become silly, 1ft of snow built up ontop of a car roof would be classed as dangerous and would warrant a stop IMO, 1inch would hardly be classed as dangerous but you could still be stopped if you were unlucky enough to have a **** copper behind you, so the defining factor would be the amount of snow obviously, but, just what would be the safe ammount you could get away with and what would be the dangerous amount you could be charged and fined with??
Big can of worms me thinks.
But then again this is where it could become silly, 1ft of snow built up ontop of a car roof would be classed as dangerous and would warrant a stop IMO, 1inch would hardly be classed as dangerous but you could still be stopped if you were unlucky enough to have a **** copper behind you, so the defining factor would be the amount of snow obviously, but, just what would be the safe ammount you could get away with and what would be the dangerous amount you could be charged and fined with??
Big can of worms me thinks.
01 December 2010, 09:52 PM
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I edited my post because it looked like I was aiming the reply to you
A friends dad is an officer and also as I posted earlier the people at the girlfriends work went into the police station next door and asked.
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01 December 2010, 10:02 PM
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I would say while there is no specific offence of "driving wit excess snow on your roof", the offence would be covered by an umbrella offence relating to driving a vehicle in poor condition for the roads. If there is good reason, expect a ticket. And quite frankly as bravo says, it's common sense to clear the snow off your car. Annoys the hell out of me, the number of people that just clear little holes to see thru
I got the message on BBM earlier out of interest.
Clear your cars off eh!
I am pretty perfect in almost all respects
-- but I do have a nasty habit on not clearing my windscreen properly, relying on the cars heater -- I am trying to change my ways though
01 December 2010, 10:46 PM
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its bollocks they cant do that as you can see through the windows and its not in the way of your vision or driveability next you will be saying theyre giving you points for driving in the rain behave and if you have been stopped for it take them to court as there is no proof of it being a law or inforcing it i drove with snow on my roof today as long as its not on your windows and your vision is fine then i dont see a problem with it
If you drive off with a large amount of snow on your roof and bonnet that snow causes a hazzard to your driving and the car behind. On your bonnet it will be blowing onto your windscreen affecting your vision. The snow on your roof will be blowing onto the traffic behind and as it gradually warms from the heat of the car interior warming the roof that snow will fall off your roof either as you pull away on to the car behind or straight down your windscreen when you brake causing your windscreen to be completely obscured and you all of a sudden are unable to see where you are going.
That in my book should be an offence, ive seen large volumes of snow fall off cars driving and it's fvcking dangerous for the vehicles behind.
I completely de snow my car before driving, the windows, the bonnet and the roof and also the headlights. It's no more than common sense
01 December 2010, 10:50 PM
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It has been a fun day in internetland with people propagating a classic scare story.
However, police have been prosecuting people on inappropriate i.e summer tyres this week given the weather. I think the offences are been booked under CU20 Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of use of unsuitable vehicle or using a vehicle with parts or accessories in a dangerous condition.
Do you see now how this works ?
However, police have been prosecuting people on inappropriate i.e summer tyres this week given the weather. I think the offences are been booked under CU20 Causing or likely to cause danger by reason of use of unsuitable vehicle or using a vehicle with parts or accessories in a dangerous condition.
Do you see now how this works ?
01 December 2010, 11:25 PM
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01 December 2010, 11:55 PM
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Clear snow from the roof as well as from windows. Snow piled up on the roof can fall onto the windscreen obscuring your view and can also be a hazard to other road users. You could be fined and receive three penalty points if the police consider your car a danger to other road users
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice...mber-2010.html
Rule 229 of the Highway code says:
Before you set off
* you MUST be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows
* you MUST ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible
* make sure the mirrors are clear and the windows are demisted thoroughly
* remove all snow that might fall off into the path of other road users
* check your planned route is clear of delays and that no further snowfalls or severe weather are predicted
The Road Policing Unit said that there is no specific legislation on driving with snow on the roof of a vehicle, however if it slips over the windscreen, or flies into the path of another car, it could leave the driver open to being penalised for driving without due consideration, dangerous driving, not being in proper control of the vehicle, not having a full view ahead and windows not being sufficiently clean.
A police spokesman said: “Any snow left on vehicle bodywork, such as the bonnet or roof, could slide onto lights or windows causing dangerous obstruction to vision of the driver or signals to other road users.
“Any large amount of snow could slide from a moving vehicle and onto a footpath or roadway possibly causing danger or injury to other road users or pedestrians.”
A police spokesman said: “Any snow left on vehicle bodywork, such as the bonnet or roof, could slide onto lights or windows causing dangerous obstruction to vision of the driver or signals to other road users.
“Any large amount of snow could slide from a moving vehicle and onto a footpath or roadway possibly causing danger or injury to other road users or pedestrians.”
Last edited by Jamz_; 02 December 2010 at 12:09 AM.
02 December 2010, 12:14 AM
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Direct from the AA website
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice...mber-2010.html
Rule 229 of the Highway code says:
Before you set off
* you MUST be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows
* you MUST ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible
* make sure the mirrors are clear and the windows are demisted thoroughly
* remove all snow that might fall off into the path of other road users
* check your planned route is clear of delays and that no further snowfalls or severe weather are predicted
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice...mber-2010.html
Rule 229 of the Highway code says:
Before you set off
* you MUST be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows
* you MUST ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible
* make sure the mirrors are clear and the windows are demisted thoroughly
* remove all snow that might fall off into the path of other road users
* check your planned route is clear of delays and that no further snowfalls or severe weather are predicted
so......
you MUST/MAY be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows
you MUST/MAY ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible
thirdly who read the full highway code before passing the test??
see were im coming from
Last edited by rapid.STI; 02 December 2010 at 12:22 AM.
02 December 2010, 12:21 AM
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The Road Policing Unit said that there is no specific legislation on driving with snow on the roof of a vehicle, however if it slips over the windscreen, or flies into the path of another car, it could leave the driver open to being penalised for driving without due consideration, dangerous driving, not being in proper control of the vehicle, not having a full view ahead and windows not being sufficiently clean.
A police spokesman said: “Any snow left on vehicle bodywork, such as the bonnet or roof, could slide onto lights or windows causing dangerous obstruction to vision of the driver or signals to other road users.
“Any large amount of snow could slide from a moving vehicle and onto a footpath or roadway possibly causing danger or injury to other road users or pedestrians.”
A police spokesman said: “Any snow left on vehicle bodywork, such as the bonnet or roof, could slide onto lights or windows causing dangerous obstruction to vision of the driver or signals to other road users.
“Any large amount of snow could slide from a moving vehicle and onto a footpath or roadway possibly causing danger or injury to other road users or pedestrians.”
02 December 2010, 07:15 AM
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Direct from the AA website
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice...mber-2010.html
Rule 229 of the Highway code says:
Before you set off
* you MUST be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows
* you MUST ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible
* make sure the mirrors are clear and the windows are demisted thoroughly
* remove all snow that might fall off into the path of other road users
* check your planned route is clear of delays and that no further snowfalls or severe weather are predicted
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice...mber-2010.html
Rule 229 of the Highway code says:
Before you set off
* you MUST be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows
* you MUST ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible
* make sure the mirrors are clear and the windows are demisted thoroughly
* remove all snow that might fall off into the path of other road users
* check your planned route is clear of delays and that no further snowfalls or severe weather are predicted
makes me laugh this is a car enthusiasts forum yet it appears there are many who can't even follow basic road safety guidelines (common sense) and some even disagree with them 
Last edited by Bravo2zero_sps; 02 December 2010 at 07:21 AM.
02 December 2010, 07:26 AM
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i hold the same opinion with you. driving with heavy snow is really very dangerous.this institution can serve as an effective measure to promoto our sense of safe. so every driver should pay much attention in winter.
02 December 2010, 08:54 AM
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02 December 2010, 09:08 AM
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02 December 2010, 09:17 AM
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There is nothing better than driving along at 100mph with 5 foot of snow on the roof. You can pretend you're a jet pilot as you leave a contrail of snow in your wake.
02 December 2010, 11:29 AM
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Its just a courtesy to other people. Forget the snow sliding down onto your windscreen and not being able to see where you are going, how about going round a corner and the snow sliding off and smashing into a pram? It takes about 10 seconds to sweep your arm across the roof
02 December 2010, 11:41 AM
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Direct from the AA website
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice...mber-2010.html
Rule 229 of the Highway code says:
Before you set off
* you MUST be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows
* you MUST ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible
* make sure the mirrors are clear and the windows are demisted thoroughly
* remove all snow that might fall off into the path of other road users
* check your planned route is clear of delays and that no further snowfalls or severe weather are predicted
http://www.theaa.com/motoring_advice...mber-2010.html
Rule 229 of the Highway code says:
Before you set off
* you MUST be able to see, so clear all snow and ice from all your windows
* you MUST ensure that lights are clean and number plates are clearly visible and legible
* make sure the mirrors are clear and the windows are demisted thoroughly
* remove all snow that might fall off into the path of other road users
* check your planned route is clear of delays and that no further snowfalls or severe weather are predicted
to both of ya. It's not rocket science is it. Clear the snow of your blood cars people.
02 December 2010, 12:25 PM
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02 December 2010, 12:36 PM
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