Do we care whether Apple/Google/etc is open/closed?
You stated this last week sometime and got a reply that I'd say you haven't read. Why aren't you using Microsoft Exchange for free push emails via Gmail?
I have 6 gmail app accounts on my ipad and 10 on my android phone, emails coming through instantly on my phone and about 5 to 10 minutes later they come through on the ipad UNLESS i actually open the email program on the ipad then I get a flurry of bing, bing, bing, bing, bing where it seems to poll the email server when I open the email program.
So the emails are definitely not being pushed instantly to the ipad like they do on android and blackberry, what i think the ipad is doing is doing the equivalent of a Send/Receive every 5 or 10 minutes to check for emails.
I have to say though, even with effective push email, some servers are slack at sending it through.
I did not see the reply, I have actually setup up gmail through exchange (I found details about this on the web last week because I thought it must have a problem with the setup)
I have 6 gmail app accounts on my ipad and 10 on my android phone, emails coming through instantly on my phone and about 5 to 10 minutes later they come through on the ipad UNLESS i actually open the email program on the ipad then I get a flurry of bing, bing, bing, bing, bing where it seems to poll the email server when I open the email program.
So the emails are definitely not being pushed instantly to the ipad like they do on android and blackberry, what i think the ipad is doing is doing the equivalent of a Send/Receive every 5 or 10 minutes to check for emails.
I have 6 gmail app accounts on my ipad and 10 on my android phone, emails coming through instantly on my phone and about 5 to 10 minutes later they come through on the ipad UNLESS i actually open the email program on the ipad then I get a flurry of bing, bing, bing, bing, bing where it seems to poll the email server when I open the email program.
So the emails are definitely not being pushed instantly to the ipad like they do on android and blackberry, what i think the ipad is doing is doing the equivalent of a Send/Receive every 5 or 10 minutes to check for emails.
Typically though it always pays to turn off and on my iPhone once a day and after charging as it sometimes doesn't play ball unless I do.
We just had a push race in the office. Blackberry won - boo, hiss - followed by my iPhone on Gmail Exchange, followed by a colleague using a Desire with Gmail, my Mobile Me was the slowest.
Of course this test is absolutely useless, but was fun anyhow. The difference between first and last was a matter of seconds.
Of course this test is absolutely useless, but was fun anyhow. The difference between first and last was a matter of seconds.
We just had a push race in the office. Blackberry won - boo, hiss - followed by my iPhone on Gmail Exchange, followed by a colleague using a Desire with Gmail, my Mobile Me was the slowest.
Of course this test is absolutely useless, but was fun anyhow. The difference between first and last was a matter of seconds.
Of course this test is absolutely useless, but was fun anyhow. The difference between first and last was a matter of seconds.
We just had a push race in the office. Blackberry won - boo, hiss - followed by my iPhone on Gmail Exchange, followed by a colleague using a Desire with Gmail, my Mobile Me was the slowest.
Of course this test is absolutely useless, but was fun anyhow. The difference between first and last was a matter of seconds.
Of course this test is absolutely useless, but was fun anyhow. The difference between first and last was a matter of seconds.
it is so hypnotic even i'm beginning to think there might be something in this Apple lark
Mobile Me is awesome, I use 'Back to my Mac' a lot, iDisk is in constant use as is the synchronisation of my... well everything, between two Mac's and my iPhone. Find my iPhone has saved my bacon on many an occasion. Yes I know you can do most of it for free, but as with most things, you get what you pay for.
The thing is Hodgy, there is something in it.
The thing is Hodgy, there is something in it.
Mobile Me is awesome, I use 'Back to my Mac' a lot, iDisk is in constant use as is the synchronisation of my... well everything, between two Mac's and my iPhone. Find my iPhone has saved my bacon on many an occasion. Yes I know you can do most of it for free, but as with most things, you get what you pay for.
The thing is Hodgy, there is something in it.
The thing is Hodgy, there is something in it.

Hodgy0_2 - Apple, Blackberry, Android or whatever, it is easier to think they are all about as annoying as each other, but just in different areas.
We just had a push race in the office. Blackberry won - boo, hiss - followed by my iPhone on Gmail Exchange, followed by a colleague using a Desire with Gmail, my Mobile Me was the slowest.
Of course this test is absolutely useless, but was fun anyhow. The difference between first and last was a matter of seconds.
Of course this test is absolutely useless, but was fun anyhow. The difference between first and last was a matter of seconds.
I had a HTC windows mobile device for a while, what a load of cr4p that was, to be fair not bad as an email device, but as a phone it was essentially an answer phone
I went to my systems dept and they gave me a blackberry -- better as a phone, imo not as good as the HTC for pure email
but they all still annoy me in one way or another
I just had a bad experience at the weekend re signing my son up with an Apple ID - bit i've calmed down now
I know I know
I had a HTC windows mobile device for a while, what a load of cr4p that was, to be fair not bad as an email device, but as a phone it was essentially an answer phone
I went to my systems dept and they gave me a blackberry -- better as a phone, imo not as good as the HTC for pure email
but they all still annoy me in one way or another
I just had a bad experience at the weekend re signing my son up with an Apple ID - bit i've calmed down now
I had a HTC windows mobile device for a while, what a load of cr4p that was, to be fair not bad as an email device, but as a phone it was essentially an answer phone
I went to my systems dept and they gave me a blackberry -- better as a phone, imo not as good as the HTC for pure email
but they all still annoy me in one way or another
I just had a bad experience at the weekend re signing my son up with an Apple ID - bit i've calmed down now
iBerryRolaOogle
Lol at Jack 
Tell you what, lets see if we can settle this once and for all
I'll give you 5 simple iphone tasks, you complete & video them - post them on here for all to see, and if they prove me wrong, i'll not post on any iphone threads any more (within reason
)
If the iphone fails to complete the task, then so what, its what we already knew
NB The iphone must be out of the box vanilla, no apps pre downloaded
, or downloaded to complete the tasks
Task 1)
Starting easy ...
Take a picture of a fast moving object using the burst picture mode of the phone. - Publish all of them on here
Task 2)
Slightly harder...
Using the inbuilt browser, navigate to Sky news.com, and watch the 3 minute news update. video the news shown on the phone and post it here
Task 4 )
Should be a walk in the park now
Find the following site
http://www.tindeck.com/listen/cbyr
Stream the song
, then download it onto the iphone
Task 5
Should be cruising now.
transfer the downloaded mp3 to another mobile device using bluetooth
then transfer another file from a phone to the iphone via bluetooth
NB you cant use itunes to do any of the work for you
Your call Jack

Tell you what, lets see if we can settle this once and for all

I'll give you 5 simple iphone tasks, you complete & video them - post them on here for all to see, and if they prove me wrong, i'll not post on any iphone threads any more (within reason

)If the iphone fails to complete the task, then so what, its what we already knew
NB The iphone must be out of the box vanilla, no apps pre downloaded
, or downloaded to complete the tasksTask 1)
Starting easy ...
Take a picture of a fast moving object using the burst picture mode of the phone. - Publish all of them on here
Task 2)
Slightly harder...
Using the inbuilt browser, navigate to Sky news.com, and watch the 3 minute news update. video the news shown on the phone and post it here
Task 4 )
Should be a walk in the park now
Find the following site
http://www.tindeck.com/listen/cbyrStream the song
, then download it onto the iphoneTask 5
Should be cruising now.
transfer the downloaded mp3 to another mobile device using bluetooth
then transfer another file from a phone to the iphone via bluetooth
NB you cant use itunes to do any of the work for you
Your call Jack
No need for sky news there's a free app for that with video 
Burst picture mode? Why would you need a phone to do that? I have a perfect Dslr to that.
I don't see your point mart, we can all list things that other phones can't do then say it's crap because it can't.

Burst picture mode? Why would you need a phone to do that? I have a perfect Dslr to that.
I don't see your point mart, we can all list things that other phones can't do then say it's crap because it can't.
but the fanboys? even with all the known limitations of the iphone, they
still refuse to accept it
Even you have come back with a "why do you need that" comment.
I need a camera on my phone because i don't have a camera

Just because you don't need or want something, doesn't automatically
mean everyone else doesn't need or want that function
BTW I already downloaded the sky app, it still says you need flash & java
to view the video
mART
Maybe there is something wrong with your iPhone.
Mine runs the Sky News Videos with no problems at all - not downloaded anything extra other than the Sky News App.
In fact I am now watching Sky News live on my iPhone - incredible isn't it!
As yours clearly isn't working properly then maybe that's why you are so unhappy with it. Or maybe it is a user error.
Mine runs the Sky News Videos with no problems at all - not downloaded anything extra other than the Sky News App.
In fact I am now watching Sky News live on my iPhone - incredible isn't it!

As yours clearly isn't working properly then maybe that's why you are so unhappy with it. Or maybe it is a user error.
Last edited by Trout; Oct 21, 2010 at 11:57 PM.
Speaking of running video on iPhone, well almost, iPad in this case.
Does anyone else find YouTube frustratingly slow on the iPad?
I loaded and watched the same video on the laptop and iPad at the same time, while the laptop streamed it beautifully, the iPad stopped started and stuttered all the way through. Same source, same connection, same time.
I thought the iPad would excel at such things. But once again the trusty windows laptop wiped the floor with it.
Does anyone else find YouTube frustratingly slow on the iPad?
I loaded and watched the same video on the laptop and iPad at the same time, while the laptop streamed it beautifully, the iPad stopped started and stuttered all the way through. Same source, same connection, same time.
I thought the iPad would excel at such things. But once again the trusty windows laptop wiped the floor with it.
omg Snazy - i've been thinking that streaming stutter is my talktalk connection!
And for you Mart, i think it's okay to be excited about a product if it does make you smile. you're obviously not getting on well with iphone. to be fair, if all i did was make calls, i might not use iphone at all.
I do like that apple is coming up with well designed user centric devices. i'm glad steve jobs is mad about the user experience and the minimalist design - we all benefit i think.
I disagree that we're all blind to their foibles though - i don't personally like the new MBA or rate OSX Lion as a significant OS evolution.
More companies should think about what users want and think about design and UI from the start - who remembers any mp3 players from before ipod? exactly.
And for you Mart, i think it's okay to be excited about a product if it does make you smile. you're obviously not getting on well with iphone. to be fair, if all i did was make calls, i might not use iphone at all.
I do like that apple is coming up with well designed user centric devices. i'm glad steve jobs is mad about the user experience and the minimalist design - we all benefit i think.
I disagree that we're all blind to their foibles though - i don't personally like the new MBA or rate OSX Lion as a significant OS evolution.
More companies should think about what users want and think about design and UI from the start - who remembers any mp3 players from before ipod? exactly.








