Norman Dog

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tony de wonderful

I forgot pslewis drives an MX-5 so whatever he says about cars is 100% ****ing irrelevant.

renny

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I see they're even charging more for white paint now!

IIRC this isn't even metallic!

EdwardH

Take a look at what they are doing ; sponsoring showjumping, not WRC, these days.

I am sure they don't want to sell too many new STIs; they want the brand defined by other models, not the road rocket variant.

Scooby ownership hasn't changed; some of us have just got older.

PSLewis; you sound like you really want one again.

mikeyw

lots of people not liking this car - how many have seen it in the flesh, and driven it?...
I've seen it - looks good in the flesh - better, alot better than the photos (and I think they look pretty decent), and driven it - its a great drive.....OK, so no whale spoiler, but I think you can add it, and i'd have thought plenty of ways to scooby it up too, if thats what floats your boat!
I want one!

pslewis

Point I was making was this:-

For £33,000 (Starting Price) - I would want some quality, some equipment, something, ANYTHING!!!!

It isn't even fast anymore ... maybe it gets to the back of the next traffic queue a tiny fraction of a second quicker than I do? - whoooopie doooo!

Honestly, when I took the STi out for an extensive drive I could have been driving a Kia Pride .... the ***** and switches have all the tactility of my Dads old 1970 Bush MusicCentre!!! Which is an absolute disgrace!!

Nah, it's finished - and that stupid price tag has just killed it stone dead .... type in £33,000 into AutoTrader and see what serious metal comes up - I think you will agree with me that the Tacky STi should be given a wide berth.

Does STi stand for Stupidly Tacky Impreza?

And it gives me no pleasure at all in saying it .....

Littleted

Ok I agree I do think making it go above 30k is a mistake, I also agree there are a lot of cars at 33k people could buy s4 2nd hand rs4 and the list goes on, but because subaru are quite rare you have that certain kudos as well as a fast car, but I don't know many cars that give that presence as a scooby, sit yaself in an Audi s4 ok its luxury but it's also insignificant just like your Honda, I agree if I want quality I'd get an s3 or s4 or maybe a 335i but I don't want to be like the 25000 other insignificant people out there. It's all down to personal pref really , but not many cars get the gratitude a scooby gets.

At present I reakon cars that get noticed apart from super cars are

Scoobies
Focus rs

Can't really think of many more I'd actually do a double take at

But yeah 33k is a joke but then again isn't that golf R 33k and that got spanked by the Leon at 20k on 5th gear lol

P.s typing on an iPad is a **** lol

73henny

Evo magazine disagree with you. They really like it (and unlike you have driven it), but of course you know everything and are always correct. But then, everyone knows that, right Lewis?

http://www.evo.co.uk/carreviews/evoc...ti_review.html

Seems clear to me your desperately trying to convince yourself that you were right to buy your Honda and are coming up with pathetic 'its not even fast anymore' comments. It would **** all over your bog standard wagon. Grow up.
For the record I also have a Honda, its in my garage and comes out at weekends in the summer. I quite like it, but hate emptying the grass box all the time.

T5NYW

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my Bugeye with PPP and PHP was £31K
my 2006 Type20 new was £33K

The new car has leather option already fitted

i do like the new 4door but the boot is very wide but not that tall

But I'd not get one with a rear spoiler fitted

A better Question is do I buy 2010 model now or Wait till August 2011 for the All NEW model

Tony

73henny

Whats happening in Aug next year then? You know something we don't?

Cannon Fodder

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I have until now watched this thread with some humour, but having seen the car in the flesh I have to say that I really do like it.

Times have moved on since Subaru's rally days and they have had to try and market the STi to a wider audience than they traditionally have; if you want a spoiler whether low or high then you can specify it and if you want a more subtle look then just leave it as is.

As for the specification levels then you will find that a lot of manufacturers especially the German ones you will find that nearly everything is an option on the order form rather than standard equipment.

Pete, your argument about your oil burner being a faster car than the new STi or any STi come to think of it is utter twaddle, you may have a very narrow band of torque which is I would imagine is all over in 2500 revs. Your car even if it has the label of 2.2GT is in no way a performance car, do you really think that the GT label makes it a sports model?

I think that if your car is standard then the performance figures are 138bhp/251 lbs ft of torque which is quite respectable for an oil burner, with a 0-60 time of 8.7 seconds which again is not too bad.

Pete, your continual slagging off of anything Subaru is starting to grate with nearly all of the members of this forum. I understand that you are a wind up merchant and like to post threads in order to sit back and watch the members get wound up and it can be entertaining to watch, but...

T5NYW

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Just rumours but a new Subaru model is due out in 2011

It may just be the two new engines to "WRX STi" range ..... Diesel(now suprise there then) but the big unvieling will be Turbo Hybrid.

Most believe the new 2WD coupe will also be unvieled August.

Other rumours that Hybrid or the 2wd Coupe will be unvielled in the USA January but more likely a March/April 2011 Auto show

Tony

Dave T-S

I bought a brand new STi at the end of June - a 330R. Basically IM were getting rid of the last of the boat load, and threw in the PPP and 330S 18" wheels and tyres - free, and called it the 330R.

I paid £28,000 all in. On a new car today that would cost around £36,000.

Feeling like I got a good deal

markr1963

Brand new, fully loaded STIs over here are the thick end of AUD75k (base STI is 67k). That's topside of GBP45k Aussie motorists are being royally screwed.
And there's an auto version too.

The Trooper 1815

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Tony,

The new direct injection petrol engine is launching in the US about now in the Forester. It's said to improve fuel efficiency by 10% (in Subaru terms that pretty good) and CO2 emissions will drop. If they can get the STi down to 224g's then it quids in all round.

pacenote

Diesel STi should do that easily

The Trooper 1815

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I spit on your suggestion I buy a diesel .

But the Leggy/Outback Diesel is very nice. Anyone had a Diesel Tune on one yet?

pacenote

agreed on the leggy and no I havn't yet

scooby L

mate has a leggy diesel and is so impressed he's kept it standard for now. (this coming from a UK270)

But then again he does have a Lancia Intergrale Evo 2 in the garage

gtisid

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that new saloon looks horrific and it goes to show what a jap is capable of with a pen!!
would i be right in saying that the original imprezas-bugeyes were designed by an english man and since giving the pen back the japs have managed to turn it into a honda civic saloon

pacenote

It's an Evo 1 actually

abc

Not sure who designed the Bug but it was turned into the much better looking Blob by the very well-respected Englishman Peter Stephens. At one time after that FHI had an Italian, or was it a Spaniard, who had worked for Alfa on the job. Don't know who designed the new saloon.

FWIW, I'm with those who think the new saloon (and the hatch) look great. Scoobs have never been lookers, but with these models they are beginning to get there, imo. But then I'm also one of those eccentrics who buys a car for the oily bits.

mikeyw

At work one of the 2 leggy diesels has been chipped - driver has got used to it now, but was impressed with the additional performance he said he got from it...we'll have to do some time trials one against the other to see what the real impact is....

pslewis

How much is it worth now, would you say?

pslewis

You misunderstand me ... I think Scoobys are great ... they are simply not worth £33,000 - simple, end of, period.

They have had their day, sadly ..... and haven't kept up. No longer is sh1te interiors and cr4p build quality allowable - hell, it's not even the ballistic missile it was back in the day.

It is a car (the STi) which is looking for a buyer, looking for someone stuck in the past, looking for someone who is blind to the alternatives.

A Subaru Impreza was a performance bargain, that's what made it what it was - that and some imprezive Rally wins ........ it is no longer a bargain, it is matched in speed by many others and it doesn't appear on the Rally Stages of the world.

I feel sorry for those who missed out on the Classic years .... they were the best.

The last chapter has been written and the book is about to close on the Subaru FairyTale .... Subaru will return from where they came - looking after Farmer Giles with his sheep and Mrs Giles with her Justy.

belliott69

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i saw a funny advert today, seat leon cupra r, £27,000 basic price, not on the road price. i think that is overpriced, an extra 6k for the impreza over that would be the easiest choice i ever made.

pslewis

£25,204 ..... OTR

That's £8,000 less and why the STi will never sell ..... the SEAT will be better built by quite a margin.

Littleted

Another insignificant car brother has one it's been back to garage 4 times for rain pissing in

Also lad I work with has an fr and it's has the same tactile feel as a scooby son dunno where u get this judgement from

Ok 330r 28k 0-60 4.8 or 4.4 depending on where u read it not many cars I know that look conservative u can throw loads in the back with seats down with those stats,
33k is drifting into then realms of other models but it's al downnto pers pref and the fact your man enough to afford one. There not mass produced like Audis hondas thats why when I drive around where a select crew of people. Ive driven to London and id be happy to see one scooby amongst the 500
Golfs audis hondas some may say cos they dont sell many, others say nobody buys them but I'm not just on about the hatch across the board

It's a specialists car driven by peoplemwho know what what they want. And with stats close to super car acceleration

DCI Gene Hunt

They see me rollin....

scooby L