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Old 18 November 2010, 02:12 PM
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Wow..that's now a political nightmare for the Wiltshire Police.

Looks like he may still face disciplinary charges though
Old 18 November 2010, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby L
Wow..that's now a political nightmare for the Wiltshire Police.

Looks like he may still face disciplinary charges though
No problem - just make him chief pigstable of Wiltshire.
Old 18 November 2010, 02:29 PM
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Do you really get a black eye like that falling flat on the floor ?
Old 18 November 2010, 02:36 PM
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Not exactly a shock! Unless he murdered her on camera he was always going to get off with it!
Old 18 November 2010, 02:54 PM
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Thats far from Police brutality!

He was just helping her on her way.

Not a massive fan of the Police pretty much like everyone else.

But that was not brutality.
Old 18 November 2010, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Do you really get a black eye like that falling flat on the floor ?
Depends if you are pissed as a fart and don't put your hands out when you fall over because you've been ranting at/fighting with the cops like any chav would but also declaring yourself to be a fine upstanding citizen who doesn't need to take a breath test.


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Old 18 November 2010, 04:23 PM
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its funny how alcohol affects people isnt it

I can safely say iv never become violent as a result of it , i do know a full time acli who comes up with bruises like that from maybe maybe not falling over
Old 18 November 2010, 04:24 PM
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This is brilliant - the next time I give someone a smashed up face and the judge asks me for my plea - simples....

...I didn't mean to do it!
Old 18 November 2010, 04:35 PM
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It's really no supprise his appeal was upheld, the presiding judge at his appeal hearing was Mr Bean.
Old 18 November 2010, 04:42 PM
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Thumbs up He got off

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-11787126


And what a fine example of parenthood and a responsible adult she is
She denied any wrongdoing and the charges against her were later dropped due to insufficient evidence.

Sgt Andrews' barrister Jeremy Barton had put it to her at the appeal court that she had been so drunk on vodka the night the incident happened that she was an unreliable witness.

Mr Barton also suggested that she had refused to take a breath test because she knew how drunk she was.


Good job too and a shame a few more lippy pissed up gob-****es do not get more of the same treatment!

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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-11787126

Good job too and a shame a few more lippy pissed up gob-****es do not get more of the same treatment!
Hark at Mr Civil Liberties!

So if it happened to your mother, sister, wife, daughter would you really feel the same way?
Old 18 November 2010, 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Hark at Mr Civil Liberties!

So if it happened to your mother, sister, wife, daughter would you really feel the same way?
It would not happen because they do not get smashed off their faces on Vodka then drive cars - in fact my mum and partner drink sensibly by comparison to enjoy a social drink, not get rat ar$ed. I do not believe either my 7 or 5y/o drink alcohol - yet.

Neither myself my partner or mum have been arrested and/or placed in cells for anything thank you

More rights over responsibilities - perhaps she should take responsibility for her actions and not drink if she has a problem - not dodge it!

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Old 18 November 2010, 05:08 PM
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Well lucky you!!!! The problem with sitting so high on the moral high ground is that it really hurts when you fall off.

And why not rights AND responsibilities - why should it be either/or?

Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
Old 18 November 2010, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Well lucky you!!!! The problem with sitting so high on the moral high ground is that it really hurts when you fall off.

And why not rights AND responsibilities - why should it be either/or?

Innocent until proven guilty and all that.
If you take a little time and re read i said "Rights over Responsibilities" which makes perfect sense in this instance.

Through her selfish, careless and thoughtless actions she put herself in this situation knowing that drinking and driving could et her pulled by the police or worse still end up injuring her or someone else she chose to drive - she negated her responsibilities to herself and more importantly other people. She then resisted being put into a cell and got injured in the process - Boo-fecking-hoo. It was all her choice all the way along...Yes, with rights come responsibilities - in a civilised society that is.

Not sure how exactly i took the 'moral high ground' exactly - would that be because i have managed 40+ years on this planet and not been arrested or locked up, because i do not drink and drive even or because i take my responsibilities seriously perhaps.

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Old 18 November 2010, 06:36 PM
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WTF are you on about? she was never convicted of anything, you are fabricating a load of nonsense to justify this assault.
Old 18 November 2010, 06:37 PM
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Was she really drunk?
I would have thought that if she was, they would have done everything possible to vindicate the custardy (for trout ) sergeant.
There was enough blood ffs
Old 18 November 2010, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by gallois
WTF are you on about? she was never convicted of anything, you are fabricating a load of nonsense to justify this assault.
Am I?


Ms Somerville was arrested after she was found asleep in her car near her Colerne home and had been detained for failing to provide a sample for a breath test.

She denied any wrongdoing and the charges against her were later dropped due to insufficient evidence.

Sgt Andrews' barrister Jeremy Barton had put it to her at the appeal court that she had been so drunk on vodka the night the incident happened that she was an unreliable witness.

Mr Barton also suggested that she had refused to take a breath test because she knew how drunk she was.

Ms Somerville denied both of these claims.



found asleep in her car and refused to give a breath sample - hardly innocent behaviour now is it???
Old 18 November 2010, 07:03 PM
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Whoa there, we don't quite live in a police state, we live in a free country, if a woman wants to sleep in her car, then she can, if she wants to refuse to give a breath sample, then it is her right to refuse without fear of assault..............WTF is wrong with you, a mountain of a man assaulted a small woman, but you think it is deserved because you have assumed she must be guilty of a crime, she is guilty of no crime...................

How about the fat **** who smashed her face, is he guilty of a crime, or does it not count because he has been released on appeal. Using your system of assumption-law, shouldn't he be deserving of a smashed face too for being a cowardly woman beater?
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Sometimes the moral high ground is so high you cannot see down to reality as the clouds are too thick.

I used to think he only posted up links to the Daily Mail.

Now I realise he IS in fact the Daily Mail.

There you have it - middle England in all it's glory!!
Old 18 November 2010, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Trout
Sometimes the moral high ground is so high you cannot see down to reality as the clouds are too thick.

I used to think he only posted up links to the Daily Mail.

Now I realise he IS in fact the Daily Mail.

There you have it - middle England in all it's glory!!

Gallois - Are you really all about rights and not the responsibilities that go along with them?!*!

Trout - outstanding, you do the most realistic impersonation of a complete and utter pompous pr@t, very convincing it is too! Try not to generalise too much eh, sign of a weak and/or lazy mind. Never bought the DM in my life more an Indie person really
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Sgt Andrews' barrister Jeremy Barton had put it to her at the appeal court that she had been so drunk on vodka the night the incident happened that she was an unreliable witness.

Mr Barton also suggested that she had refused to take a breath test because she knew how drunk she was.
So that will be NO PROOF then? The charges of failing to blow were dropped, so the above is just obfuscation and bluff! Innocent unless proven guilty, and the only proof in this case is that of the bully in uniform

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Originally Posted by boomer
So that will be NO PROOF then? The charges of failing to blow were dropped, so the above is just obfuscation and bluff! Innocent unless proven guilty, and the only proof in this case is that of the bully in uniform

mb
Yes, yes calm down dear i am sure she is a lovely person and a pillar of her community.

Now that McCann woman...I read somewhere in the Daily Wail that...
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Originally Posted by boomer
So that will be NO PROOF then? The charges of failing to blow were dropped, so the above is just obfuscation and bluff! Innocent unless proven guilty, and the only proof in this case is that of the bully in uniform

mb
But surely you do not need proof as sensible people do not have more than a couple of glasses of sherry and would never be as vulgar as to get drunk!

And if someone does, they deserve every face smashing consequence they may suffer!
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Originally Posted by Paul Habgood
Not sure how exactly i took the 'moral high ground' exactly - would that be because i have managed 40+ years on this planet and not been arrested or locked up, because i do not drink and drive even or because i take my responsibilities seriously perhaps.
Is that 40yrs since retirement

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Originally Posted by gallois
Whoa there, we don't quite live in a police state, we live in a free country, if a woman wants to sleep in her car, then she can, if she wants to refuse to give a breath sample, then it is her right to refuse without fear of assault..............WTF is wrong with you, a mountain of a man assaulted a small woman, but you think it is deserved because you have assumed she must be guilty of a crime, she is guilty of no crime...................

How about the fat **** who smashed her face, is he guilty of a crime, or does it not count because he has been released on appeal. Using your system of assumption-law, shouldn't he be deserving of a smashed face too for being a cowardly woman beater?


Have you actually read the appeal? She smashed her face herself because she was so drunk that she fell over when she let go of the door frame. And can I remind you that if you sleep in your car with the key then you commit an offence.


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Old 19 November 2010, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Have you actually read the appeal? She smashed her face herself because she was so drunk that she fell over when she let go of the door frame. And can I remind you that if you sleep in your car with the key then you commit an offence.


M
Well put

Because everybody gets procecuted as the CPS are just brilliant - Oh wait a mo i remember watching a pi$$ed up drugged up (found this out later) walk down the Wellingborough Road terrorising passers by attempting to smash shop windows pull people out of stationary cars and kick in almost every panel on a VW Polo he took a dislike to. He then resisted arrest and had to be pepper sprayed to subdue him

I gave a full statement to this effect as did my partner, having seen the episode. CPS dropped it...hardly infallible and certainly my reason to doubt the odd a decision or two

Twout

The sublime to the ridiculous - whilst i do not drink and drive (which apparently you do not seem to understand is wrong?!*!) i can drink without getting into fights, calling up family and insulting them and feeling the need to drink-drive over to make up or getting in trouble with the police - this hardly makes me a tea total or a sherry drinker - more a responsible adult capable of letting down what little hair i have left but without breaking the law or hurting others in the process of having a great time - is that so difficult for you to understand or comprehend - maybe says more about you than me

Using your weak-minded approach i could class you as one of those porsche driving high self-opinionated, chattering class know-it-all's who discuss this sort of thing after scanning through The Guardian and sitting down to a nice Risotto and cheeky little New World Chardonnay with their other friends who's experience of real life and the real world extends to mixing with the hoi-poli at Uni, watching X Factor and Corrie not because they want to but because they think (and i use the term loosely) they should...

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Old 19 November 2010, 08:26 AM
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'kin hell has that been on your mind all night?

And since when has it been an offence to sleep in your car with the key in?

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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Have you actually read the appeal? She smashed her face herself because she was so drunk that she fell over when she let go of the door frame. And can I remind you that if you sleep in your car with the key then you commit an offence.


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Have you watched the video in the OP? And you think she fell over?


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