speedking

Personally I'm glad that the police are picking cars out of convoys and not victimising those at the front, or back (me ), where IMO you are much more likely to get nicked.

As for suggesting that the entire queue should get done rather than one car . I know what I'd think if I was in that queue.

MRK

DOH!!

But they are victimising performance car owners to which you are one I presume.

DOH!!

speedking

I don't know what other cars were in the convoy.
You don't know that it was victimisation.
The only time I got done for speeding was in a Kia Sportage 4x4 which I bought because I thought it would be safe
A lot more evidence is required to prove victimisation.

Disco

If the whole queue is speeding what is the problem?

I think Graham has a point, in that he shouldn't be the only one picked out, it should have been everyone, and if thats beyond their capabilities it should have been no-one.

snowcrash

most coppers are fine - its the small few which are annoying.

And why not pull over the whole convoy??

Too many drivers just follow the speed of the car infront and not the speed limits..

And another thing which really pisses me off are drivers who drive 50mph in a 60zone then drop to 40 in a 40 then stay at 40 in a 30!!! - I have seen this soo many times and it is the one thing which grates me the most..

e.g. they go under the speed limit on the fast (or less pedestrianisated) sections on road making everyone go slower. The in built up areas continue driving at a faster speed! These people should be slapped..

IMHO the coppers need more powers to stop the ***** and theives, and should stop singuling out drivers of HPC....

speedking

I didn't mean to suggest that there was a problem...
but: if the resource wasn't available to nick the whole queue at the time then I wouldn't be noting registrations and passing them to the law, no matter what type of vehicles the others were. Some got away, one got caught, that's life.

blubs

I think some people are missing the point here.

It is wrong to speed but a little harsh to be singled out in the way Graham has been.

The comment 'it's the price you pay for owning a performance car' is a load of tosh. What price? Are we accepting that because we own a performance car then we must be singled out over speeding drivers who DON'T own one?

Perhaps Dave T-S should be given a ticket every now and again to remind him he's 'paying the price' for owning his Scoob (no offence Dave).
It's the price you must pay for speeding and nothing else.

blubs

Geezer

The police should have stopped the first person in the queue. You wouldn't watch a load of muggings until you saw one that was particularly vicious would you? You'd arrest the first one!

OK, you souldn't do 39 in a 30, but it is harsh to single him out because he was driving a Scoob.

It's painful to see the now standard Scoobynet "Holier than thou" attitude at every slip someone makes!

Geezer

Andy Porter

scum.
Andyp

druddle

For anyone who is sick of people speeding past their houses or childrens schools its simple.

Go to your local costume hire shop and hire a police uniform.
Borrow a mates white Astra.
Borrow a video camera on a tripod.
Go to your local disco hire shop and hire a small strobe light that you can set to strobe very slowly (1 or 2 times a second).

Put the uniform on, stand by the car and erect the tripod and camera. Plug the strobe in and when you see cars coming past quickly turn the strobe on so it flashes a couple of times as they go past.

I am reliably told this will have the desired effect of slowing traffic down.

Dave T-S

This thread is priceless and must take this week's thread of the week award!!!!!

Victimisation - the only one nicked out of five drivers allegedly doing the same speed - would you have been nicked if you were doing 30mph - NO!

Singled out for driving a performance car - would you have been singled out if you had only been doing 30 mph - NO!

And the worse thing is the "boo hoo why me it's not fair they should have nicked the other four as well attitude" - well, they didn't, and they wouldn't have nicked you either if you were only doing 30 mph.

The answer to ALL this is that you wouldn't have been nicked for anything if you were only doing 30 mph........if you could only see that!

YOU were driving the car, YOU were doing 39 in a 30, and YOU were responsible for getting yourself nicked!

Sorry, but we all have to take responsibility for our own actions!

Personally, I don't care if you were doing 100mph in a 30 (as long as it's not round where I live) - just don't expect to come on here and get sympathy for being so hard done by from a copper that is doing their job when by your own admission you were breaking the law.

blubs

Phew!

Thank God for that!

For a minute there I thought that everyone contributing to this thread has never indulged in speeding,

or forgetting to indicate,
or making an error in judgement,
or say, copying audio CD's
or allowing loads of mates to watch a video/dvd that has been hired
or paying cash to avoid VAT.....

I'm sorry chaps. This sort of mindset is entirely responsible for my reluctance to post.

blubs

MRK

Dave T-S, the Preacher

yoza

Told you so!!
post number 5 I think.
Dave-T-S Has very strong feelings about speeding(and he's entitled to them)Not been on for very long and not had a sub for very long,but the way I see it is like this:
The speed limits were set just after the extinction of the dinosours.
When they were first enforced cars were not equipped with the same luxuries as we have today ie top of the range brakes,suspension ,steering,tyres,and so on.So for example Im sure if a ford anglia was travelling at 40mph and I was doing the same by its side(MY01)Im sure I would stop well before it did.20,and 30mph zones in built up area,schools ect I can understand,
but a re-evalluation is needed as technoligy has moved on,and so should we.Sorry about the spelling dont think Ive typed a sentence in 10 years,all changed since coming on hereAS YOU CAN TELLBy the way this is not me havin a go at DAVE-T-S may be Ill change my tune when Ive got kids and I see people wizzin down the road were they play or go to school.

Dave T-S

Mark
The internet is a powerful medium that potentially links the whole population of the planet.

If someone chooses to go on the internet and bare their soul to nearly 6 billion people, there is a faint chance that someone out there might just disagree with them.

If they do not want to run that risk, then they shouldn't post in the first place!

Dave T-S

yoza

I totally agree with you - shock

However, until the law changes, and it frequently is an ***, we have to abide by it.

The alternative, if we choose to believe that particular laws do not apply to us as individuals is anarchy

yoza

S**t just fell off me chair,wasnt expectin that.now queensbury rules only please,no more low blows

grahamstocker

Christ didnt expect so many replies !! Dont get me wrong not complaining about being nicked for speeding but more the fact i was singled out from the other cars Dave T-S when you are not driving in your rural village do you stick to 30 mph in other rural villages not condoning speeding just trying to say its very hard to travel at that speed and if most people were honest they would admit that they go slightly over. G.

Dave T-S

Graham
Unfortunately yes I do stick to ALL 30 limits, at all times of the day - and many people I know on here will/have testified to that

Not trying to be a do gooder in that respect - plenty of rural 60 limits round here with no people/houses and where the road is open and clear it will be as fast as the road will stand

I do take your point about victimisation, but equally you have to take mine about you wouldn't have been victimised in the first place if only doing 30.

Probably done this one to death now and time to put it to bed

PS - yoza - sorry about the shock

BuRR

<-- Tosser and ba$tard, allegedly.

Carolyn T-S

I'll testify to Dave 'pedestrian in 30 limits' T-S, claims to adhering to the limit. Even at 6am when everyone is in bed he's still sticking to it - even with me heckling him to get a move on as all kids and police are asleep, he still ignores me.

It is a brave man who doesn't do what his missus tells him

TonyBurns

iTrader: (3)

Im with Dave T-S here, i stick to the 30-40-50 limits and it doesnt half p155 other drivers off but if i needed to stop quickly i could, id probably have 3 cars go into the back of me but i would have stopped (and had all the other cars done for driving too close ) but pedestrians are a funny thing, we all should know that, ive had it when ive been out a few year back now with my mate, crossing a zebra crossing, one way street and boy racer in his nova speeds up! makes me and my mate run across the crossing cos hes flying down the road at 40+mph, straight past the cop car that was parked there, which incidentally did catch him, very quickly too and i recon that lad got banned for dangerous driving cos it was malicious! but say i would have tripped on the crossing (having had a few drinks and the car being 100m down the road when he saw us, if it would have been 15m from the crossing i would have been history, period!
Im not saying that i am an angel i do speed sometimes but not in town, not in 30-40-50 areas that are built up, on roads i feel safe to add a little speed, constantly watching out for traffic or other obsticals, slow down on country lanes that are restrictive, go slow and in a higher gear passed horses etc, kids run from between cars and at 40mph alot of cars wont stop as quickly, especially in the wet (trust me i know!) and someone can be hurt

Tony

Shark

Thread of the week - defenatly

Caught for 33+ in a 30 - thats down to the driver.

David

grahamstocker

Well thanks for your views Guilty i know ! but maybe i will learn from this and become the perfect driver like Dave T-S 30 in a 30 40 in a 40 50 in a 50 60 in a 60 Yawnnnnnnnnnn!! come on tell the truth or why drive a scoob!!

stephen emery

4 track days and 60's, rest stay to limit
steve

Richard Askew

I've been holding back on this one big time but now I feel the need to post..
When I was younger I never bothered with limits - complete tosser yes I know but I was only a boy racer then..
I admit I should have been banged up...85mph in a 30 regularly on a week day lunchtime (we used to race during lunch at college) then one day, Mark went out in his Orion 1600 Ghia and never came back...
He hit a tree at 90-odd was thrown through the screen and was decapitated..
Brings it all home
Then I slowed down but that still didnt stop me getting nicked at 49 in a 30 (dual track non residential midnight) but no excuses..fair cop etc etc 3 points.
Then a year later another 3 points for 79 in a 60...
Then I bought the scoob - talk about a plod magnet - hence why I do 30 in 30's..40 in 40's and 50 in 50's... NSL roads are fair game though..
I feel its too easy to lose licenses in these restrictions so I take it easy..
And as for killing someone..well it just doesnt bear thinking about...

SiDHEaD

I, like a lot of others, tend to stick to the 30's more religiously than other limits. Sometimes difficult to do when all the cars around you aren't. More of a anti-"pushing my luck" device, as I been pulled a lot of times for speeding when i was younger/first driving, yet never done for it. 75 in a 40 once on empty road at nite, still stupid - but they let me off with a "talking to". :/
Luckily I have also matured enough to understand caining round in 30s is unsafe to others - not just at risk from police.

The motorway speed limits however are stupid. The outside lane always tends to sit at about 90 when the motorway isnt too busy. As long as people keep reasonable distances this is safe - unfortunately all too often tho people don't. I think motorway lessons should be compulsary with a raise of the speedlimit in mind, although these tailgating idiots probably would still go do it anyway.

Andy

DaveD

iTrader: (2)

An interesting thread.

I'm afraid I'm one of those who sticks to the 30 limit (WRX low gearing does have it's advantages! ).

I stick to 40 limits at discretion, and 50s, but national limits I tend to go the speed the road will allow (allowing for junctions, traffic etc). 30 limits tend to be there for good reason, and in certain situations, even 30mph is too fast to drive truly safely.

When you speed, you are breaking the law, and should be prepared to accept any penalty coming your way if you get caught. Yeah, all very easy to say from here, but you should know the risks, so live with it.

Had an amusing incident a year ago, when I overtook a car on a short straight in a national limit, yards before a 30mph zone. Hard on the gas, then hard on the brakes to 35, off the gas, coast round the corner - and there was plod with his gun pointing at me expectantly....I must have been doing around 29mph!

TMoore

30s are there for a reason, irrespective of how much cars have come on in the years since the speed limits were set. That's because (mainly) they're near areas where kids play and people walk out across the road, often unexpectedly. And I know that everyone can come up with an example of a 30 that would be safe at 60, but they're rare, and onyl known to locals. So I stick to 30s. And usually 40s, too.

But i also agree that many speed limits are really feckin' stoopid! I'd be quite happy to stick to the lower limits, and even lower ones than there are now, if they'd set a decent limit for dual-carriageways and motorways - say 80 and 100 respectively. Or how about variable limits - you go no more than 70 in the rush hour, but can do 100+ when it's quiet?

If the government was willing to re-evalutate all limits, I'd be happy to stick to well policed 20-zones around housing and schools.

Oh, and I agree with the point made by someone earlier - there is little more annoying than overtaking some old ******** and his wife (in their Rover 400 or some other middle-aged-flat-cap-wagen) on a Sunday afternoon for doing 45 in a 60 zone, getting rude signals, and then getting caught up & tailgated in a 30 zone by him 'cos he's doing 40. ***** like that deserve a good kicking

SiDHEaD

yea, or at nite on big straight NSL roads, you overtake some1 who is doing 45 and on comes their full beam. On purpose, after you have passed and pulled in !safely! infront.

Pointless and dangerous. Fair enough they want to muppet around at a slow pace, but why deliberately blind people who wish to drive at a speed closer to the legal limit...

Andy