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Old 15 July 2010, 08:00 AM
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There is an update coming, but its not going to improve things on the 3GS, performance wise. I tried downgrading to 3.1.3 last night, no dice unfortunately & I wish I'd not bothered in the first place. My phone is as laggy as my old HTC running Win Mobile 6.1
Old 15 July 2010, 09:22 AM
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trying to down grade to jon, i have factory restored the handset via itunes but it still comes up with having the version 4 software on it,

what i am doing wrong.

does anyone have the iphone 4 and other than the signal are you having any issues with it, as this has buggered my phone to the a point where i cant use it properly so if the new update is not going to fix the 3gs then its time to get a new handset

jon how do you know it will make no difference to the 3gs?
Old 15 July 2010, 09:42 AM
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Try a hard reset. To reset, press and hold the Sleep/Wake button and the Home button together for at least ten seconds, until the Apple logo appears.
Old 15 July 2010, 10:09 AM
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I have the iPhone 4 and it's fine , quick and reliable
Old 15 July 2010, 10:15 AM
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Having used OS4 on my 3GS for a couple of weeks now I would say that the update isn't worth doing. I certainly think it trips the phone up a bit and the touch screen seems more hit and miss, pre update I could type pretty much faultlessly, now I'll hit the wrong key (or it'll 'guess' the key incorrectly).

Will a hard reset revert the OS to what it came with then? I presume all your contacts and stuff will go but if you then restore from iTunes won't it put OS4 back on?
Old 15 July 2010, 10:52 AM
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You can't downgrade now because apple isn't signing 3.1.3 on it's validation servers. So if you are on ios 4, you are stuck with it, atleast until the jailbreak community come up with a fix to allow downgrade.

I've noticed the typing lag too, it's fecking annoying. I'm almost at the point of jumping ship to an htc desire or samsung galaxy s

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Old 15 July 2010, 11:01 AM
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I thought ireb bypassed the downgrading errors?
Old 15 July 2010, 11:06 AM
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dj jon

i am 100% with you

i am not paying for something i can not use, so will be off to 02 and car phone warehouse to get a new deal at lunch i think

any other phones other than the iphone 4 out there that is worth it

was thinking of going blackberry as i have never had one as yet
Old 15 July 2010, 11:35 AM
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I had a blackberry and regretted went back to the iPhone. See what apple have to say about the iPhone 4 at the press conference.
Old 15 July 2010, 11:55 AM
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My brother has a blackberry, and it's not great tbh. I'm seriously thinking of something like the htc or samsung next time around. Unfortunately, my contract doesn't expire till December so I'm stuck with this pile of poo till then Will never buy another Apple device after this fiasco. Don't care what they say at the press conference.
Old 15 July 2010, 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by antc
I thought ireb bypassed the downgrading errors?
If you saved your SHSH files before upgrading to 4.0 then you can downgrade, otherwise you are presently, up **** creek without a decent operating system.

I'm deeply disspointed that Apple have fudged this up, as a software tester myself, they obviously skimped on performance & functional testing on the 3G/s & ipods.

I'd be happy to downgrade to 3.1.3 & stay with it till they sort iOS4 out, otherwise I will probably jump ship till they either fix & the iPhone 4
Old 15 July 2010, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Iain Young
My brother has a blackberry, and it's not great tbh. I'm seriously thinking of something like the htc or samsung next time around. Unfortunately, my contract doesn't expire till December so I'm stuck with this pile of poo till then Will never buy another Apple device after this fiasco. Don't care what they say at the press conference.
Iain

Why not visit an apple store genius bar and chat it through?
Old 15 July 2010, 12:28 PM
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I have a Genius appointment this afternoon, I'll have a chat about iOS4 on your behalf.
Old 15 July 2010, 01:35 PM
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DevilDog, because the nearest one that I am aware of to me is nearly 60 miles away, and I simply don't have the time to get there when they are open.

Thanks Jack. I'd be interested to hear what they say. I know of at least 2 other people here at work who are having similar issues.

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Old 15 July 2010, 02:12 PM
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seems they havent fixed the problems with the iphone 4 as well with the new update
Old 15 July 2010, 05:21 PM
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Yup, plenty of people coming in with slowdown issues on the 3G, all fixed with a hard reset - press and hold the power and home button. A few issues with 3GS, again hard reset and restore.

Tried the grip of death in the Apple store and the O2 store, no effect in the Apple store at all. In the O2 store one phone had less bars than another, I could make that one go down a bar. Don't believe the hype, try for yourself.
Old 15 July 2010, 08:15 PM
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Unfortunately, done the hard reset and restore already. No effect :-(
Old 15 July 2010, 08:30 PM
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4.01 is out now. Give it a go.
Old 15 July 2010, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Iain Young
Our company releases products that are far more complicated than that which is contained within the iphone, we have a fraction of Apples budget, and yet we still manage to release bug-free software on a regular basis. It's called testing, (something which Apple does not seem to have heard of).
this reads like a Mickysoft thread

but I do have to pick on the above, no one can guarantee bug free software

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Old 15 July 2010, 10:01 PM
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doing it now
Old 15 July 2010, 10:09 PM
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Reset the phone via the menu, hard rest with power and home butting (more than once) reset the phone twice via iTunes and still next to noninternet acres amount other things. Finds a wifi connects and shows full signal but freezes and locks up.

Will try the update tomorrow if not the phone is useless to me so will bin it off,

Forget the blackberry by the sounds of it, not a fan of the htc desire so other than a normal handset (soto speak) might have to try the new iPhone 4 if they have fixed the original issues, loved all of my other iPhones the 3G and 3GS until I took the update so might have to try it atleast
On a 14 day return period
Old 15 July 2010, 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
but I do have to pick on the above, none can guarantee bug free software
In theory true, but as our software runs a good proportion of the banking/financial and warehousing/logistic systems around the world, we have to be pretty damn close. That's why we test stuff (unlike Apple). If we released software in the same state as this update we'd be slaughtered by our support teams
Old 15 July 2010, 10:19 PM
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I tested iOS4 for a week before release, it worked great. So does iOS4.1 and on the same hardware as yours, how can this be possible?

Hang on, didn't you break a dozen XBox 360's?
Old 15 July 2010, 10:47 PM
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It's strange, I installed the GM of 4.0 on my 3GS a week before release & it worked great, once I installed the proper version, that was apparently the same, it all went bad. Just installed 4.0.1 - still the same laggy rhubarb
Old 15 July 2010, 11:01 PM
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Jack are you using a iPhone 4 or a 3GS?

Just wondering how come you appear to be one of the only people on here saying it works fine and as it's the same download for everyone we should all be ok!!

Jon and myself plus many others are having major problems my 3GS shows a full signal on wifi but won't load a page for love nor money, and ends up locking up, timing out out crashing

Jon please don't say 4.1 has made no difference as j was counting on that in the morning, Jon what model have you got.'3GS if I remember right
Old 15 July 2010, 11:08 PM
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3Gs working perfectly. I can assure that your symptoms are a massive minority.

How does the phone run before you restore your back up? If you haven't tried, hit the restore button in iTunes, let it do it's stuff then when asked don't apply your back up.
Old 15 July 2010, 11:26 PM
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I did the upload of the 4 software on the 3GS,it did upset certain things,like I could not send mms for a while,voice recordings and pictures,all it took was new setting from o2,then all things where fine again.
With this new 4 now I have had no issues what so ever,the download of all my apps ect into the new phone went fine,have not done this new upgrade 4.01 yet,might leave it for a while.
Old 15 July 2010, 11:54 PM
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3gs on 4ios here and no issues.
Old 16 July 2010, 07:57 AM
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Stevie> I've got a 32gb 3gs - I don't feel like 4.0.1 has made any difference to the performance issues I have been getting.

At the earliest opportunity I will be downgrading to 3.1.3
Old 16 July 2010, 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by JackClark
3Gs working perfectly. I can assure that your symptoms are a massive minority.

How does the phone run before you restore your back up? If you haven't tried, hit the restore button in iTunes, let it do it's stuff then when asked don't apply your back up.
more i look into it the more cases of ''its screwed my phone i find''

but hey ho

jack done that i have a fresh install on the phone with no other details put back on it, also have tried a hard reset last night after putting the fresh install on during the day and still i can not get wifi and it still locking and crashing out.

i might take o2 up on the offer of upgrading for £20 a month left on my contract and get dare i say it the iphone 4, at least with that i have a 14 day return period


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