StickyMicky

Can a mod not round up all you homos and put you back into the gay-**** football section ?

SPG

I direct my dissapointment more at the managers door. Gerrard was obviously not at his best in the position he was playing and to be fair Rooney too, at various points of the match you had Rooney playing a midfield role passing up to Heskey and Gerrard etc I thought it was supposed to be the other way round.

It's time to change the 4 4 2 and put these players where they play for their clubs, i'm positive we will see a different England then.

I might be wrong but in the qualifiers Rooney was up front by himself was'nt he? Thats the position he wants to play in and thats why we did well, Gerrard should play centre mid to feed him not be stuck out on the left.

Funkii Munkii

If we are talking arrogant then we should look at the captains comments after the game, he had no respect for his opponents and has none for the next opponents, ****.

Terminator X

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England look like a side desperate not to lose & as a result have no flair or confidence. Destiny calls for the traditional result ...

TX.

James Neill

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James Neill

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The majority are not well educated (it's embarrising to see them being interviewed sometimes and hear just how bad their English is) and they're surrounded by sycophants that skew any perspective of reality (eg, mega sponsorship deals that make them look like heroes - what a joke!). No wonder they don't grasp the effort, money and time that fans have put by to follow them to SA.

Don't think they really care about playing for England. They're away from home, tired and just want to be with their wives and girlfriends (or both). Aaaw, bless. Must be really hard for them.

Think they need to take a leaf out of the All Blacks book and get some perspective, dignity, respect and pride

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJ8hJ0pBApA

The Rig

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Oi moron,Algeria played better and looked better because we were so crap.
Algeria were the better team all night long,BUT that shouldnt of been the case

billythekid

I will admit, I know very little about football. However, it looked to me like the average England player was 10 years older (and 10 years slower) than the other team. The other team were still pegging it up and down at the end at full chat and England were sitting down having a ***. Thats what it looked like to me anyway.

Like I said, I know nothing!

Maz

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Well put James. I sometimes cringe at the number of 'you knows' in an interview. You'll generally find most rugby union players are more articulate and verbose than their football counterparts (talking about the English team).

pslewis

I've seen it all before .... England always do this ..... 'need' a result, 'need' a result from elsewhere, 'need' lady luck to smile on them.

I'm going to make a prediction here - as an old boy who can see into the future .... England will win the next game and progress - they will reach the Semi-Final - there will be a penalty shootout (Green will save the vital penalty, and Rooney will score the winning one).

In the final ...... well, I cannot quite see that far yet.

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or, alternatively, we will be coming home next Thursday!!!

Maz

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Agreed we did make Algeria look good. Infact our performance yesterday was reminiscent of France against Mexico.

mart360

Its eleven ego's running round the field, not one team...

Check out the film "Miracle" with Kurt Russell, based on a true story btw

not football related, but shows how one man took a load of ego's , broke them down, and turned them into a world beating team!!!


Something our team mangers should take into account!!!!


Mart

Leslie

Do you think that as a team they actually cut the mustard in world class football Pete?

Les

EddScott

All these complaints about the manager reminds of Mike Basset

pslewis

Les

I think, on their day, they can beat anyone .....

Last nights show was utter pants - but the best is yet to some

Maz

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When 'stars' start believing their own hype then they're in trouble. It shouldn't be about having to break egos, I bet if you gave the average Joe from a lower league an opportunity to play for England they'd have done better. As Jack Dempsey once said 'it's hard to get up at six in the morning to go for a ten mile run when you're wearing silk underpants'.

Aaron1978

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Questioning players desire to play for their country

Yes they earn lots of money, WTF has that got to do with playing for England.

They're England fans too and probably more dissapointed than you or I, I for one am glad we saw that from Rooney as to me it shows he cares and has passion for playing for England. Fans play a big part in helping teams through bad patches and should get behind the team even more in the next game (i'm sure they will too).

We need a change in system and a change in personel, in how players play for their clubs and how we set ourselves up in qualifying.

I'm with Stickymicky on this one get this in Sport, only more to keep the gayers in NSR

Dutch Scooby lover

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As a relative outsider (Dutchman) I can honestly say that the English teams football was not very good, but also the Algerians were very good at not letting them football.
Most African countries are good at this (Cameroon and Nigeria to name some others)

They are not the best footballers but are very good at taking out a player, because,lets face it, nobody will want to have his career ended by some African footballer kicking your ankles into oblivion.This willa lways be on the minds of a player.

Also, what exactly does the coach have to work with.the English competition is very good, but which players make that competition good.Out off the current England squad, most of the players fall into the "Meh, reasonable" category,some are awfull, and even less are spectacular players.
Even then the team has to click.

If it all was down to individual quality bar none ,Holland would have won every World Cup since 1970, but haven't won any,as they never are a team who want to go the extra bit to make up for another players deficits.Germany seems too be the opposite, they always get very far with very mediocre players and some good ones.

Some very surprising other matches (Mexico v France, Germany vs Serbia) are exactly the same.If you find a weak spot in the other side's tactics/team then exploit it, and hope for a win/draw.Easy to do when you are not the favorite,as pressure will work with you, and against the team that IS favorite.

I believe England will progress to the second round, but do not give them much chance after that.
Sorry.
This afternoon sees Holland vs Japan, and everybody says Holland will get an easy win, but If Japan can find a week spot (Note Japan: v Bronckhorst is SLOW)and can hold the back closed I can see an upset here as well.

Ant

"the formation will be 4 - 4 ******* 2"

Aaron1978

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People can't help where they're from, are you saying people from liverpool and parts of London are thick and can't speak properly? Have you been to South Yorkshire recently Myself being from East Yorkshire is quite amazed at the difference in accent and dialect. Your assumption about people based on how they speak makes you come across as a ****

Rugby Union, now there is a stereotype if ever there was one.

Lisawrx

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I think personally where money comes into it, is that most of these blokes are in the game predominately for the money, I do wonder where love of the game ranks anymore. I would imagine others feel the same.

As for them being fans themselves, maybe, but they are in the position to do something about how well we do, and they put on that show last night. It's no other wonder people are frustrated. I'm not sure they do really have passion (can't say I saw any last night), certainly seem to lack patriotism, they can't even be bothered to sing our national anthem ffs. As for Rooney caring, does he? Or was he just huffed because people weren't kissing his boots? I don't know.

Maybe part of the problem is where they are being played, and maybe that should be changed, but imo they should still step up and put in their best effort and if that was it, we might as well just go home now.

The Zohan

What Rooney really should bare in mind is that the England teams performance was poor at best against a just average side.

The booing supporters recognised this and their disgust and dissappointment was for the TEAMS poor performance.

Rooney should channel his annoyance and put it to a positive use - ideally directing it at the manager who is playing world class players out of position and in the wrong formation. In fact all the England players should stand solid and as one on this and tell Capello what is wrong and how to put it right.


If he doesn't then listen then time for him to move on immediately, during the world cup if necessary and get someone like Beckham to stand in as a figurehead and moral booster if nothing else. If England then loose then at least they can say they tried, at the moment it does not look like they are, they look like a beaten team with no heart!


6 million a year for Capello and he cannot think outside the box or even a little laterally - old dog and new tricks springs to mind

I can sympathise with Rooney's ourburst but think he needs to channel it to good use!

Aaron1978

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You have to be good at your job to be able to command that kind of money, you have to perform (most) of the time and show so much commitment and work your nuts off to even get close to being a conference league footballer.

Why do fans think that their fans more than a player that like myself dreamed of playing for England growing up? I hate losing a game and i play about 20 leagues below the EPL Players are competitive and while i have no excuse for their performance last night they do want to win.

As for Rooney having no one kissing his boots, if there is one player that doesn't get off on attention then it's him.

Aaron

Gear Head

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Rooney just doesn't get it does he.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...tches/match_23

Shocking really. It was like watching myself play football - i.e. total crap!

Aaron1978

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I agree fully Paul, players should be played how they play for their club. Look how we qualified with ease using these tactics. Capello needs to give Joe Cole a chance and Crouch too. We seriously lack creativity and Rooney was all over the place trying to get the ball or do something, then all he had to aim for was Heskey We need Rooney in front of goal simple as, with two wide players that stay wide and stop bringing congestion in front of goal.

Aaron

DYK

I listened to Ian Wright comments about the game last night,he says it all really,the guy had more passion in his voice than the whole of that squad last night.Same old story with England and same comments from players after the game,WE COULD OF DONE BETTER ..How about having some determination going out onto that pitch with a will and a mind to win and doing the job,we should not be in the position now where we have got to win the next game..

http://www.talksport.net/mediaplayer...d=&mediaType=1

James Neill

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The point being made was reinforcing the ****e use of English you hear in many footballer interviews (I know there are exceptions). Accent and dialect is one thing, not being able to speak properly is another.

Maz

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Did you actually comprehend what I wrote? I wasn't referring to how they speak but the standard of literacy. Accent and dialect wasn't even mentioned

Maz

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BTW you'll find the majority of the rugby union lads more than capable of stringing a sentence together without it being interspersed with 'you know' and 'know what a mean'.

Aaron1978

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Players generally speak how the speak where they're from The 'you know' comment was a direct complaint on how people from liverpool/London speak as that IS how most from there do indeed speak.

It does indeed make me laugh but that is how they speak, are you saying they should have elocution lessons to make it better for people to watch after match interviews? If you want to listen to what they say then accept how they speak, you do have a choice. This is even worse than the spelling and grammar police