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Old 12 June 2010, 10:31 PM
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Hmm nice car and all, if I had won the lottery then yes Id have one plus a whole garage full of other overpriced exotica, but at 50k in the real world obviously this guy has some cash to burn. I remember evo 9 fq400's at high £40k new and people just said how fast they were, yea we know its a lot of money but it is what it is and if he can afford it why not I would.
Old 12 June 2010, 10:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
The CS400 has the highest power output of any car sold by Subaru.
Why Tony won't just accept that at least I can't imagine.
I'm at a loss to explain what his motives are in running it down. I think we should be giving them credit for having a crack at the sort of car we're supposed to love, considering there's a recession on.
couldn,t agree more...would love to see more cars like this on our roads.
Old 12 June 2010, 10:47 PM
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looking forward to seeing this car at Brands soon
Old 12 June 2010, 11:28 PM
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Congratulations to the OP as he has purchased one of the most limited Impreza's ever.

If I were in a position to purchase one myself then I would certainly would have ordered one, regardless of the argument about VFM it is what the OP wanted and he went out and ordered one.

If we all wanted VFM cars would be all actually be driving Impreza's?

They can be expensive when they go wrong, the day to day running costs are not exactly cheap and they return poor MPG to say the least. We drive Impreza's because we like them and to a certain extent we turn a blind eye to their inherent faults and 'quirks'.

Well done to the OP and I hope that the CS400 is everything you want and more.
Old 15 June 2010, 03:23 PM
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I hope you enjoy the new scoob.

My friend works with cosworth and states it's a scarily fast car.

The 0-62 time of 3.7 is very conservative - he said with the weight load trimmed down, was getting closer to 3.3.

I'm hopefully going out to a track day with one (as a passenger I hasten to add). Really looking forward to it.

He also hinted that their *might* be another production run of 500 less special ones. You all know what that means
Old 15 June 2010, 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by BlkKnight
I hope you enjoy the new scoob.

My friend works with cosworth and states it's a scarily fast car.

The 0-62 time of 3.7 is very conservative - he said with the weight load trimmed down, was getting closer to 3.3.

I'm hopefully going out to a track day with one (as a passenger I hasten to add). Really looking forward to it.

He also hinted that their *might* be another production run of 500 less special ones. You all know what that means
I hope the track day car will be covered by the IM Warranty when it's sold on.
Old 15 June 2010, 03:48 PM
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I don't think it will be sold on. It'll be one of Cosworth's own cars.
Old 15 June 2010, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr.No
I'd watch the next series if I were you....
of course it will be on top gear.. they like subarus and clarkson loves his cossies
Old 15 June 2010, 06:36 PM
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Ermmm... Actually Tony you did say it was a pathetic attempt at a peformance car! From your post on 12 Jun at 15:04...

"If that is what you think then you have no idea. It's not good vfm, it's 10k too much, the warranty, well go buy a car with a 36k/3year warranty, you won't find any other company that offers such a pathetic attempt on a performance car, you won't find one, and again I will state that Prodrive offered a similar package 2 Years ago for 10k less."

Don't shoot the messenger, but when it comes to ranting about people not checking their facts the phase 'glass houses' and 'stone' springs to mind mate!
Old 15 June 2010, 06:46 PM
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all i can say to the fact is that if the recent press is to be believed, i'll be buying a mini cooper s next as porsche are to scared to race it and as tony is pushing that the porsche is better than the cossie, then the mini will eat it for breakfast.
Old 15 June 2010, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by jh1
i was correct tony you did say it is a pathetic attempt on a performance car! all i did was ask you to explain why? i,m talking about the car tony not the warranty and price!!!!
You may find that it was the warranty I was referring to as a pathetic attempt on a performance car not the car itself, so get your facts right and ******* read it right in the first place moron

Tony

PS, have you ever owned any performance cars before? no doubt thats a no if you think 36k/3yrs is good

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Old 15 June 2010, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
The CS400 has the highest power output of any car sold by Subaru.
Have to argue that point Alan you could say that the highest output on a new subaru would be the T25, just not sold by subaru UK, but has a better warranty and is cheaper and as its not a factory car, modified outside and loses its subaru japan warranty (I believe the warranties are covered by subaru japan themselves now), it sort of negates the issue a little.
Still my point is, far too expensive, far too poor a warranty offered.

Tony
Old 15 June 2010, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Have to argue that point Alan you could say that the highest output on a new subaru would be the T25, just not sold by subaru UK, but has a better warranty and is cheaper and as its not a factory car, modified outside and loses its subaru japan warranty (I believe the warranties are covered by subaru japan themselves now), it sort of negates the issue a little.
Still my point is, far too expensive, far too poor a warranty offered.

Tony
If I were you Tony, I'd leave it there. I think you're just beginning to look like a di*k with this crusade of yours.
If you don't want one dude, don't buy one, and certainly don't denigrate somebody else who has the right to spend cash on whatever they like.
These are all toys after all, who gives a monkeys about the cost?
What do you do when Top Gear's on? throw Tofu at the telly?
Old 15 June 2010, 10:17 PM
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likee cs400 very much but at almost double an STI w/ free 330r , it just doesn't compute

plus in some tough peer group at £50k, noteably GTR

sure it will be great though, if very heart rather than head
Old 16 June 2010, 08:31 AM
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Me likee too, but prefer to have newish Elise and Impreza on drive for the money (which I don't have :-( )

Horsey for coursey ?

Good luck to OP - if you want it and can afford the finance, just do it.
Old 16 June 2010, 09:29 AM
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If it was sat on mat black 19" ADVAN RS alloys (with rolled arches) and lowered another 10mm then I'd sell my granny for one (what's another £3k on top of £50k )

Alas I haven't got the 3k let alone the extra 50

PS

22 years old and a CS400..... you really must pay your mum diddly swat to squat at her place! Shouldn't you be saving for a new house deposit?

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Old 16 June 2010, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Alan Jeffery
If you don't want one dude, don't buy one, and certainly don't denigrate somebody else who has the right to spend cash on whatever they like.
+1, said some time back in this thread.....
Old 16 June 2010, 09:46 AM
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Personally I see all sides heres
For me if you want it and you can afford it then get one if you can.
But for me I'd want something which gave me more value for money and just as important, a warranty than 36K miles

Anyway - good luck to the OP.
Be sure to review the car for us after you get it.

Cheers,
Shaun
Old 16 June 2010, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby L
22 years old and a CS400..... you really must pay your mum diddly swat to squat at her place! Shouldn't you be saving for a new house deposit?
Lol, yeah I should, shh

Well I'll have it paid off in 4 years, and will put it onto house then, but in that point I shall own the car outright, meaning no monthly payments etc for it and that extra money can go onto being in debt for another 20 odd years on a mortgage Makes sense to me, that and tbh I'd live in it! also care more about my car then getting a house, while im still young and stupid tho

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Old 17 June 2010, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lazadude
Lol, yeah I should, shh

Well I'll have it paid off in 4 years, and will put it onto house then, but in that point I shall own the car outright, meaning no monthly payments etc for it and that extra money can go onto being in debt for another 20 odd years on a mortgage Makes sense to me, that and tbh I'd live in it! also care more about my car then getting a house, while im still young and stupid tho

Laza
If you can afford it mate then go for it. It's not going to be parked up, you are going to enjoy it. Most of us would love to have been in that position so early in life.

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Old 17 June 2010, 10:32 AM
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Down this way the average first time buyer is 34 anyway..... You have ages!!!
Old 17 June 2010, 08:09 PM
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I just dont see why this whole 36k mile warranty is such a big issue. there are plenty of decent clock doctors out there who will make sure you get your full 3 year warranty out of them.
Old 18 June 2010, 01:15 AM
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http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/sti...preza-cosworth
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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Have to argue that point Alan you could say that the highest output on a new subaru would be the T25, just not sold by subaru UK, but has a better warranty and is cheaper and as its not a factory car, modified outside and loses its subaru japan warranty (I believe the warranties are covered by subaru japan themselves now), it sort of negates the issue a little.
Still my point is, far too expensive, far too poor a warranty offered.

Tony
I grew up with Cosworths. I own a Subaru. I'm glad this collaboration happened. It'll be a great car, and they'll have no problems selling it!

BUT

IMHO Tony is right on this one:

1) 50k is way too much for a Subaru; it completely defeats the point of the car
2) It may be the most powerful "factory endorsed" Subaru available, but it's not powerful enough to warrant getting one over a Type 25 in terms of performance, as opposed to the special edition cred.
3) The warranty is poor!

Like I said, I'm still glad the project is happening and it'll hopefully cast a much needed halo effect on the std STis. I still can't help but feel that Subaru should get invest it's time and money making the std car the class leader for affordable performance motoring again, and not rely on an uber expensive special edition, available to only a few, to raise the bar.

Ns04

PS Let's keep things friendly please: there's no need for the insults - it's just a car!

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Old 18 June 2010, 12:02 PM
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Sadly that appears to come complete with a chav VTA dump valve - bad mistake
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FYI Evo have given the CS400 3.5/5.0 and the RS500 5.0/5.0

Main problem is the usual "light, lifeless steering...numb and slow witted"

"Important point of contact between car and drive, that the RS500 simply murders the Impreza Cosworth."

Big shame.
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Originally Posted by urban
Sadly that appears to come complete with a chav VTA dump valve - bad mistake
I'm not sure...my standard re-circ dump valve now sounds pretty loud in the cabin since duncan mapped it
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Originally Posted by Ved
FYI Evo have given the CS400 3.5/5.0 and the RS500 5.0/5.0

Main problem is the usual "light, lifeless steering...numb and slow witted"

"Important point of contact between car and drive, that the RS500 simply murders the Impreza Cosworth."

Big shame.
You'd think they'd have rectified the power steering weight after the STI's bad reports... simple mod a la Iain though...
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Really?
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Yep.

Must be the combination of the thinner cosworth panel filter and the higher boost, but it's quite audible in the car when you nail it now.

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